This is a warning for us today...

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Malachi 4 “For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven, and all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up,” Says the Lord of hosts, “That will leave them neither root nor branch. But to you who fear My name the Sun of Righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings; And you shall go out and grow fat like stall-fed calves. You shall trample the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet On the day that I do this,” Says the Lord of hosts. “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant, which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
Ok, this is addressed to the Children of Israel. What warning do you see here for the Church?
 
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What is "The great and dreadful day of the Lord?" cause it sounds a whole lot like the day of God's judgement spoken of in Isaiah, Zephaniah, Zechariah, Amos, Joel, 2 Peter etc, etc.
 
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We read in scripture that the people of today will respond to the Lord as the people are responding in this post. They will say all the things said in this post against the law. It is misreading Paul that most are using today and we are even told that would be done.

2Pe 3:16 He speaks about these things in all his letters in which there are some matters that are hard to understand. The untaught and unstable twist them to their own destruction, as they also do with the rest of the Scriptures.

Paul said he didn't speak against the law. Paul spoke against using Jewish customs instead of law. There are many scriptures against what these people say, but they refuse to include them as scripture.

Act_28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

The demons of the last days are let loose in the church as scripture says will happen, and the power for good that the law is has been stripped, we have only a body of weak, ineffectual Christians left. They flaunt that Christ forgives and saves them regardless of how they speak of the law, as they have stripped the church of the Lord of power.

 
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We are attacking because of your comment to homwardbound. Or did you forget your comment to him? Us call ourselves God's people? Did you happen to see your comment?
Like I said, you are here to cause a distraction from the OP because anyone who has even a little common sense can read my statement in context and get the point that I made. Our discussion is done because I identify the spirit behind your attacks as not of a God.
 
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We read in scripture that the people of today will respond to the Lord as the people are responding in this post. They will say all the things said in this post against the law. It is misreading Paul that most are using today and we are even told that would be done.

2Pe 3:16 He speaks about these things in all his letters in which there are some matters that are hard to understand. The untaught and unstable twist them to their own destruction, as they also do with the rest of the Scriptures.

Paul said he didn't speak against the law. Paul spoke against using Jewish customs instead of law. There are many scriptures against what these people say, but they refuse to include them as scripture.

Act_28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

The demons of the last days are let loose in the church as scripture says will happen, and the power for good that the law is has been stripped, we have only a body of weak, ineffectual Christians left. They flaunt that Christ forgives and saves them regardless of how they speak of the law, as they have stripped the church of the Lord of power.

Thank you! Very well put...
 
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We read in scripture that the people of today will respond to the Lord as the people are responding in this post. They will say all the things said in this post against the law. It is misreading Paul that most are using today and we are even told that would be done.

2Pe 3:16 He speaks about these things in all his letters in which there are some matters that are hard to understand. The untaught and unstable twist them to their own destruction, as they also do with the rest of the Scriptures.

Paul said he didn't speak against the law. Paul spoke against using Jewish customs instead of law. There are many scriptures against what these people say, but they refuse to include them as scripture.

Act_28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

The demons of the last days are let loose in the church as scripture says will happen, and the power for good that the law is has been stripped, we have only a body of weak, ineffectual Christians left. They flaunt that Christ forgives and saves them regardless of how they speak of the law, as they have stripped the church of the Lord of power.

I liked that= very well written :)
 

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What is "The great and dreadful day of the Lord?" cause it sounds a whole lot like the day of God's judgement spoken of in Isaiah, Zephaniah, Zechariah, Amos, Joel, 2 Peter etc, etc.
I take it to refer to Jacob's Trouble, AKA the Great Tribulation where Israel will be refined and sifted and only 1/3 will survive. The nations will be in upheaval as well as the time of the Gentiles is coming to an end.
 
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Like I said, you are here to cause a distraction from the OP because anyone who has even a little common sense can read my statement in context and get the point that I made. Our discussion is done because I identify the spirit behind your attacks as not of a God.
Funny, I could've said the same thing of you. I'm glad this discussion is done. While you're at it, can you cease all other discussion too? Thanks. K, bye.
 
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I take it to refer to Jacob's Trouble, AKA the Great Tribulation where Israel will be refined and sifted and only 1/3 will survive. The nations will be in upheaval as well as the time of the Gentiles is coming to an end.
you don't think the Great Tribulation effects us all? correct me if I'm wrong I was gathering from your post that it's of your opinion the verse in question (which mentions the Day of the Lord) was referring to the Jews.
 

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Try telling that to your wife after you've cheated on her.
Been there done that, what is up with this type of love and Mercy?, She showed the Love and Mercy of God to me. I repented long time ago. It is the love and Mercy that changes a man
Romans 2
 

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Totally uncalled for mate.
It I okay, I have sinned I have done wrong, and all have remembering e ho is without sin cast the first stone. He did and I can take it, thankful to God
 

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The demons of the last days are let loose in the church as scripture says will happen, and the power for good that the law is has been stripped, we have only a body of weak, ineffectual Christians left. They flaunt that Christ forgives and saves them regardless of how they speak of the law, as they have stripped the church of the Lord of power.

Scripture says the law is good but it is powerless to effect good in the individual. The power is in the Gospel and it's giving the HOLY SPIRIT to those who believe.

Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure. (Rom 7:13)

For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me.
(Rom 7:11)

For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
(Rom 8:3-4)

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. (Rom 1:16)

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
(Gal 3:1-3)

Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory.
(2Co 3:7-9)

Ministry of death? or Ministry of Life?, your choice.
 
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Been there done that, what is up with this type of love and Mercy?, She showed the Love and Mercy of God to me. I repented long time ago. It is the love and Mercy that changes a man
Romans 2
Did the love and mercy of your wife's forgiveness cause you the throw out the rules of marriage? Did the forgiveness of your wife make you want to go out and do it again?

Titus 2:11-12 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age.
 
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Malachi 4 “For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven, and all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up,” Says the Lord of hosts, “That will leave them neither root nor branch. But to you who fear My name the Sun of Righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings; And you shall go out and grow fat like stall-fed calves. You shall trample the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet On the day that I do this,” Says the Lord of hosts. “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant, which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

Matthew 11:13-15

“For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14“And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. 15He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.

John the Baptist suceeded his mission all israel, and those that belive went to Christ our Lord for salvation.

God bless
 
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I can't believe all these negative comments at the simple words of God that I posted because that's all I did was cut and paste the word of God and you attack it like a bunch of wild bees. Amazing that you still have the courage to call yourselves God's people. Check out Psalm 119 and you tell me if David would say what many of you say today about the Law of God.
I pray for your blessing to know and understand God's grace to all through Son. Since he died for me, and is not counting sin against me, appreciate it, deeper and deeper every day

Ephesians 3:16-18New International Version (NIV)[SUP]16 [/SUP]I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, [SUP]17 [/SUP]so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, [SUP]18 [/SUP]may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,

I take no rights in judging anyone:

Romans 14:4
Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

I know there is no:

Romans 8:1 [Full Chapter]
[ Life Through the Spirit ] Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,
 

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you don't think the Great Tribulation effects us all? correct me if I'm wrong I was gathering from your post that it's of your opinion the verse in question (which mentions the Day of the Lord) was referring to the Jews.
""I take it to refer to Jacob's Trouble, AKA the Great Tribulation where Israel will be refined and sifted and only 1/3 will survive. The nations will be in upheaval as well as the time of the Gentiles is coming to an end.""


Didn't I mention nations? (Gentiles).
Us all? The Church will be raptured, but ,ahem, that's another topic.
 
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Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

Matthew 11:13-15

“For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14“And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. 15He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.

John the Baptist suceeded his mission all israel, and those that belive went to Christ our Lord for salvation.

God bless
Read the rest of the chapter because it's pretty cool too.