Do you Love the ISIS Muslim terrorists?

[BlackPlatypus]

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(Photo: Reuters/Youssef Boudlal)[/h]Iraqi Christian children, who fled the violence in the village of Qaraqosh, sit on a mattress at their makeshift shelter in an abandoned building in Arbil, north of Baghdad, August 11, 2014. The children sought sanctuary at the building after fleeing their village to escape the advance of Islamic State militants.

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August 11th - Christian Post
5-Year-Old Christian Boy Cut in Half by ISIS Terrorists[/h]

 

[ThomistColin]

No, I don't love ISIS. I don't pray for them. I pray for anyone in their path. I pray for the people in their custody. The children they'll slaughter in the time it takes a Christian to read this far.

They hate us. How do we love someone who, if we were to turn our other cheek, would cut our head off while they laughed?

Welcome to Christianity. We are the living sacrifices of Jesus Christ. We are His and His alone. No one said it would be easy to love those who hate you, but that is exactly what Jesus commanded us to do, because that is what He did. Even His wrath is out of His love. So, I do love them. I pray for them, and I pray for their conversion.

 

[notuptome]

I wonder what would happen if suddenly streaming across the Islamic State borders came Christians. Christians who say they are willing the pay the non-Muslim tax. Willing to live in a Muslim country, and not eat pork or drink wine. All the while praying publically for their conversion, for the salvation of Jesus Christ, and then for the continued life and health of al-Baghdadi. I believe it would begin with martyrdom, but soon, the Muslims would see what the Romans saw, the kind, loving people who somehow loved and cared for their persecutors, who prayed for their life and health. Never calling down curses, never asking God to remove the regime, but praying and serving one another.

I wonder, sometimes, what it would be like, if we did what we're supposed to do.

You are a classic. Despite the romantic notion why is it that you want others to go? Why don't you see yourself as leading the charge? How about taking a sea of red Cardinals and Bishops with you? The pope has the tribute money in ample supply.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[BlackPlatypus]

Welcome to Christianity. We are the living sacrifices of Jesus Christ. We are His and His alone. No one said it would be easy to love those who hate you, but that is exactly what Jesus commanded us to do, because that is what He did. Even His wrath is out of His love. So, I do love them. I pray for them, and I pray for their conversion.

Do you realize you just posed the argument that God drowned every living thing on earth,including pregnant women and newborns of course, while promising next time he'd burn every living thing to death, because he loved them?

 

[BlackPlatypus]

I wonder what would happen if suddenly streaming across the Islamic State borders came Christians. Christians who say they are willing the pay the non-Muslim tax. Willing to live in a Muslim country, and not eat pork or drink wine. All the while praying publically for their conversion, for the salvation of Jesus Christ, and then for the continued life and health of al-Baghdadi. I believe it would begin with martyrdom, but soon, the Muslims would see what the Romans saw, the kind, loving people who somehow loved and cared for their persecutors, who prayed for their life and health. Never calling down curses, never asking God to remove the regime, but praying and serving one another.

I wonder, sometimes, what it would be like, if we did what we're supposed to do.

Grab your passport and your Bible and go find out.

Prior to packing up for that trip Google Images keywords: isis beheads christians

But not if you don't have a strong stomach. And if you don't have a strong stomach, don't make the trip. Because one day one of those pictures will be you.
You wonder what it would be like to do what you're told to do? Do you think ISIS and other terrorist Muslims don't know Jesus? Why do you think they slaughter Christians? Because they're apostates who insult Muhammad by worshiping Isa!

 

[jjtj22]

Do you love them, and pray for them?

Yes, I do. I pray for God's holy and righteous judgement on them. Like BlackPlatypus said, unless it is His good will to call them out for His own, then I will love them like a brother or sister. But until then Psalm 109 expresses the sentiment



For he did not think to show kindness,
but pursued the afflicted, poor, and brokenhearted
in order to put them to death.
He loved cursing—let it fall on him;
he took no delight in blessing—let it be far from him.
He wore cursing like his coat—
let it enter his body like water
and go into his bones like oil.
Let it be like a robe he wraps around himself,
like a belt he always wears.

 

[Jackson123]

[h=1]This verses below is uneasy thing to do, I my self have hard time to practice it. Only if we abide in Jesus like a branch abide to the tree, will produce a fruit. and a fruit of Holy spirit is love.

When they kill us, we know for sure we go to Heaven. That why Paul said for me life is Christ and to die is a gain.

a gain because we move to Heaven, where no more tiers and suffering.

How about if we kill them, they go to Hell forever and ever. Our little suffering here on the earth is not worth compare the reward we receive in heaven.



Matthew 5:43-48New International Version (NIV)[/h][h=3]Love for Enemies[/h]43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
[h=4]Footnotes:[/h]

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I pray that the deteriorating West would wholly repent of its rapid moral degradation and mounting fiscal irresponsibility and return to the one true holy Creator God of the Bible and the people of the Middle East would wholly repent from the violent false religious cult of Islam that has beguiled them likewise.

Do you love them, and pray for them?

 

[Atwood]

Excellent point.

How can we get the gospel to them?

I have to wonder what percent of them & of people in general never got the gospel since the internet is there today?

The problem is that every truth of Christianity & the Bible is opposed by the enemy & his agent. Even on this Chat site there is much opposition to the gospel.

I wonder if ISIS has a site on the internet to which you could send them a message?
May be a general Muslim site?
Should we all go and post on such sites?
I would want to use an anonymous Proxy Server with them though!

 

[Angela53510]

I pray for Muslims all the time. The ones I know and the ones I don't. I confess to not praying for ISIS members, (I would never pray for the organization, just the individuals) just the Christians affected by them. But I will start praying for them.

I just got it firmed up to teach a course this winter on Muslims and how to witness to them. I have been praying for God to open the doors of ministry, maybe this will be an area I can use my teaching and pastoral skills.

Good topic!

 

[Atwood]

I pray that the deteriorating West would wholly repent of its rapid moral degradation and mounting fiscal irresponsibility and return to the one true holy Creator God of the Bible and the people of the Middle East would wholly repent from the violent false religious cult of Islam that has beguiled them likewise.

AgeOK-

I don't think a return is possible, because the West never was where it should have been, nor the USA. Christians are strangers & pilgrims. Now to be sure there was a time when there was a superficial allegiance to Christianity, but is allegiance to the papacy good? I wonder if we are really better off now that we have anti-Christian overtly instead of pro-Christian hypocritically (people pretending Christianity without ever having been saved).

 

[BlackPlatypus]

I pray that the deteriorating West would wholly repent of its rapid moral degradation and mounting fiscal irresponsibility and return to the one true holy Creator God of the Bible and the people of the Middle East would wholly repent from the violent false religious cult of Islam that has beguiled them likewise.

I think you meant to use a different word there than, likewise.

 

[Jackson123]

I pray that the deteriorating West would wholly repent of its rapid moral degradation and mounting fiscal irresponsibility and return to the one true holy Creator God of the Bible and the people of the Middle East would wholly repent from the violent false religious cult of Islam that has beguiled them likewise.

agree islam is false religion. and Islam beguiled them. There are a victim.

and at least 2 well known secular reporter Alex Jones and David Icke said: they are a only a tool, globalist is in behind. To create chaos.

Hegelian Doctrine:

Thesis, antithesis and Synthesis.

Secretly create problem/ chaos, attempt to start WWIII. (thesis)

People cry for peace (antithesis)

then offer solution play savior./ if you don't want a war let make one world government. A war is fight among 2 or more countries

If only one country in the world, there will be no war. (synthesis).

 

[Atwood]

This verses below is uneasy thing to do, I my self have hard time to practice it. Only if we abide in Jesus like a branch abide to the tree, will produce a fruit. and a fruit of Holy spirit is love.

When they kill us, we know for sure we go to Heaven. That why Paul said for me life is Christ and to die is a gain.

a gain because we move to Heaven, where no more tiers and suffering.

How about if we kill them, they go to Hell forever and ever. Our little suffering here on the earth is not worth compare the reward we receive in heaven.



Matthew 5:43-48New International Version (NIV)

Love for Enemies

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Footnotes:

I think that sometimes an execution is a loving thing to do when the to-be-executed knows it is coming soon for sure; it is an incentive to do business with the Lord. But you make excellent points. I don't think it is righteous not to defend the people vs Islamic terrorists, nor to let them attack Israel.

We should view the world as a planet of evil doers of various shades, from hypocritical moralists to baby-murderers. The world is ever at war with itself; different ungodly groups fighting each other. If there are moralistic humanists advocating socialism and "democracy" (guided by the elite) vs head chopping terrorists, they are still both ungodly & part of the constant off & on again warfare which characterizes this age without let up.

Christians need to maintain a degree of aloofness as strangers & pilgrims fishing in a stinking fishpond.

 

[Jackson123]

I think that sometimes an execution is a loving thing to do when the to-be-executed knows it is coming soon for sure; it is an incentive to do business with the Lord. But you make excellent points. I don't think it is righteous not to defend the people vs Islamic terrorists, nor to let them attack Israel.

We should view the world as a planet of evil doers of various shades, from hypocritical moralists to baby-murderers. The world is ever at war with itself; different ungodly groups fighting each other. If there are moralistic humanists advocating socialism and "democracy" (guided by the elite) vs head chopping terrorists, they are still both ungodly & part of the constant off & on again warfare which characterizes this age without let up.

Christians need to maintain a degree of aloofness as strangers & pilgrims fishing in a stinking fishpond.

To protect the weak and to protect the victim is love.

The question is who is the victim.

Both Isis Member and Israel is the victim.

Isis is the victim from the elite that deceive them, I believe they are just a tool for the globalist agenda to create one world government. That what David Icke said. I know David Icke is non christian.

People of Israel is a victim as well. This is for sure.

The best thing we can do is to exposed the globalist agenda, who knows ISIS aware what going on and stop they evil deeds.

 

[Katy-follower]

Did you hear that they've been beheading christian children and sticking their heads on poles, as a warning?!! I cried when I read the article and (unfortunately) I saw the pictures. It reminds me of the days of King Herod, murdering babies. They've also been crucifying christians on crosses.

This is a movement of hate (not supported), and if anyone is deprived and in desperate need of love it's these people. Think about how they're raised. As very young children they are taught to hate. They're indoctrinated. Very sad. They're all deceived and think they're going to Heaven for killing Christians. Remember the scriptures that speak about "calling evil good and good evil"

I remember hearing about a group of Christians that were lined up on their knees, about to be executed. It was said that the Holy Spirit gave them such peace and comfort because they had no fear. While some would tremble or cry, they didn't. And when Isis began shooting at them they didn't react and didn't suffer, they just died in complete peace. As a result, these men were so angry that they kept repeatedly firing at the dead bodies. It was as if Satan was angry that these Christians didn't suffer the way he wanted, that he took his rage out on their dead bodies. These terrorists are puppets of Satan.

In all of this, one thing that keeps coming to mind is the scripture that speaks of the rich man in hell. Notice he knew why he was there, he wasn't confused about that (so clearly everyone in hell knows also). And he wanted to come back so he could warn his family, so they wouldn't end up in that place. This keeps coming to my mind constantly when I see people doing evil things. Think about those terrorists that have died and are now in hell, how they now realize what they've done, and they would do anything to come back and warn everyone.

 

[BlackPlatypus]

But see in muslim cultist ideology, when they kill the infidel, be they adults or children, they're assured heaven/paradise. If they turn apostate, convert to the faith the infidels they're slaughtering hold, they go to Hell.

There is no incentive for the believer to convert because their cult ideology teaches them to leave islam is to suffer for eternity in Jahannam. (Hell)
So when those terrorists cut children in half, behead them, they believe that evil murder is assuring them paradise.

 

[Katy-follower]

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[BlackPlatypus]

^Does anyone love that? That behavior depicted? Or those who are committing to the behavior? Anyone?
Who do you love more? The little treasure sitting there as their next victim? Or those with the rifles in her precious face?

"God is Great" (Allahu Akbar!) That's what they'll shout....right before they pull the trigger.


Love that?
Never!

 

[David_1]

I think they are the worst scumbags. I find it very hard to love them, in spite of the command to do so.