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35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.
36 Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? 37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant
because it is spiritual principle and the commandment of God. bottomline. the word is quicker and sharper than any twoedged opinion of the attitude of the heart. hebrews4:12
we can all wonder about spiritual principles. there are other mysterys in the bible that are based on spiritual principles such as two people becoming one flesh. but we don't wonder to say, ok because i don't really understand it i'm just not going to apply the word of god to my life in this area.
36 Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? 37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant
because it is spiritual principle and the commandment of God. bottomline. the word is quicker and sharper than any twoedged opinion of the attitude of the heart. hebrews4:12
we can all wonder about spiritual principles. there are other mysterys in the bible that are based on spiritual principles such as two people becoming one flesh. but we don't wonder to say, ok because i don't really understand it i'm just not going to apply the word of god to my life in this area.
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you missed what i said earlier...
they cannot speak in the church setting... period.
so with that knowledge thanks to Paul, we can assert that outside of the church they can speak. if they cannot speak in the church, then to pray and prophesy outloud in the church would contradict what paul said. therefore we conclude that it is outside of a church setting that the women must wear a covering (her long hair if she has it) when she prays or prophesies.
they cannot speak in the church setting... period.
so with that knowledge thanks to Paul, we can assert that outside of the church they can speak. if they cannot speak in the church, then to pray and prophesy outloud in the church would contradict what paul said. therefore we conclude that it is outside of a church setting that the women must wear a covering (her long hair if she has it) when she prays or prophesies.
Revelator can't answer this but only casts insults.
1 Corinthians 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
Obviously there are times in a service when women speak.
A commentary may help you, after all God has placed TEACHERS in his body the Church.
1 Corinthians 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
Obviously there are times in a service when women speak.
A commentary may help you, after all God has placed TEACHERS in his body the Church.
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Instructions to Women
…12But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. 14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.… --1 timothy 2
paul didn't just write to the corinthian church, he wrote to timothy with the same exact [spiritual] principle. that women are not allowed to speak.
and it is not a cultural thing as bible scholars and commentors claim. notice where paul told timothy it was because adam was form first then eve. this alone stands as an order thing, not cultural. not only that, but paul explains further beyond the order thing of man being first before women, that adamn wasn't the one deceived.... the devil knows the weaknesses of women as well as those of men. that's why the enemy targeted the women... it has something to do with her make-up so to speak.
…12But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. 14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.… --1 timothy 2
paul didn't just write to the corinthian church, he wrote to timothy with the same exact [spiritual] principle. that women are not allowed to speak.
and it is not a cultural thing as bible scholars and commentors claim. notice where paul told timothy it was because adam was form first then eve. this alone stands as an order thing, not cultural. not only that, but paul explains further beyond the order thing of man being first before women, that adamn wasn't the one deceived.... the devil knows the weaknesses of women as well as those of men. that's why the enemy targeted the women... it has something to do with her make-up so to speak.
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Now you're trying to ruin my crediblity by falsly accusing me of insulted you when i did not. you just don't want me to be right, period. i believe what you believe and will not change your perspective. i never insulted. you mocked me, which was an insult/offense on your part. and i called you out on it by showing you your sin against me. i gave you scripture from proverbs to help you see what you did by throwing a dart at me and then saying "i don't have a sense of humor" basically you were trying to say "i was only joking". but you weren't joking when you mocked me. you meant it. from the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.
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I'd just like to say that God loves men and women equally and he doesn't favour one over the other. 
god gave dominion to the man, to adam. not to the woman. the authority and responsiblity of a man is greater than his helper, eve. the man is the head of the body, the woman is the body of her head. the head/brain gives commands to the body, the body moves. the head has a mouth in its face, the body doesnt have a mouth to speak. this is not chuvanistic. this is not i'm better than you. this is not men are greater. it's just on a spiritual level, based on the princples of God, men have a certain power, and with that comes a specific responsibility. women have a different kind of power, and a different responsibility.
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ive noticed a theme on here. that when people can't get their thoughts through to me, or when they don't agree with me on something, they end up just getting over emotional by being mockingly about it. i don't mock other christian's because there is a disagreement. so it's not me reaping what i've sown. so i know it's coming straight from the heart. i can't believe that a christian would have the nerve to mock another christian. to me that's hateful
Unfortunately that is just the way people are sometimes. but that comment ^^ sounds quite patronising Revelator. Just because someone is a Christian doesn't mean they are perfect. I am talking to myself included when I say this. I think that this website ( and the world in general) would be better if we realised that we were all on the same team!
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We are not perfect because we are still in these earthly bodies. But we are called to perfection in terms of loving one another with the love of Christ. i pick fruit from christians and taste to see whether they are spiritually minded or not. i test the spirits as john said to. when a brother hates on his brother, he is stumbling in the darkess and cannot see where he goes. thelove of God has not been made perfect in him, but it should have been as John wrote. doers of the word in terms of character, this is the one thing thatshould be in every christian. we can see who really follows christ by the love he shows. when hate is obvious in another, it means the love of the father is not in him. this is scripture, no? yes, us christians all come in the name of the Lord, but not all christians come in the love of the lord. i have been given false prophecies by those who come in the name of the Lord. 'lord lord have we not prophesied in your name... i never knew you!" to know God means to be known by him. we are on the same team if we all live in the knowledge of the Most High. i don't think i was patronising. otherwise youwould have to call James patronising to the entire body of christ, because he set the bar so high! a christian should be perfect in that he loves his brother. there is no exception to the rule when it comes to love. that's just my perspective. you don't have to take me at it.
I don't thimk that the reason people on this mock one another is because they actually hate each other it's more commonly that they are simply annoyed at you. It'san an almost natural reaction for some people to insult others when they annoy them. Also just because you judge someone to be not spiritually minded, as you say, doesn't mean they aren't