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That whole section is about the imperfectness of the Levitical/fleshly priesthood compared to the perfect priesthood after the order of the Malak Zadiq (Melchizedek)....
Yeremyah 2:8, "The priests did not ask; Where is Yahweh? Those who deal with the Law did not know Me! The pastors also transgressed against Me, and the prophets prophesied in the name of Baal, and walked after things of worthlessness"
Hosheyah 4:6, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me. Because you have forgotten the Law of Yahweh, I will also forget your children."
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
Mattithyah 22:36-40, "Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law? Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
Yeremyah 2:8, "The priests did not ask; Where is Yahweh? Those who deal with the Law did not know Me! The pastors also transgressed against Me, and the prophets prophesied in the name of Baal, and walked after things of worthlessness"
Hosheyah 4:6, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me. Because you have forgotten the Law of Yahweh, I will also forget your children."
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
Mattithyah 22:36-40, "Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law? Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
K
You are under a false Paulinian gospel that says that future sins are covered as well, before they are even committed or confessed for that forgiveness.
The bible does not say that, Paul and Peter both say only your past sins have received remission; not future.
Future sins are given remission after confession is made for that forgiveness. It is funny how people have come up with that falsehood when Paul himself multiple times in the new testament warned believers that sin can still pose a threat to their lives.
Why can you not see this ???
If sin no longer poses a threat to a believer do to can not be imputed on them when they commit one, then Paul would not have gave those warnings to believers. Just like he even warned another Apostle Timothy about becoming a partaker in sins again, and to not do that but keep himself pure. You keep yourself pure through confession to receive that remission.
Has your hatred for the Catholic church, blinded you to the part of the truths that they do preach from the bible?
They go about the confession in the wrong way, but confession is still biblical...........
[h=1]2 Timothy 2:21-26
Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.22 Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.[/h]
M
You mean like God said here?
Ro 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Yes I believe the word of God
Ro 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Yes I believe the word of God
M
Oh so part of the law has passed away? Or every jot and tittle? or is it exactly all the law?
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
You better tell Paul what law he was delivered from because he misunderstands himself according to you:
25 Thanks be to Yahweh, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of Yahweh, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.
delivered from the law of sin.
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER....
The law of sin and death is not, "do not steal" "do not kill" "love your neighbor" "do not take the Name of YHWH in vain", the law of sin and death is what you see on a television daily...
Ok, so Romans 7:
7 What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet.
12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.
Obedience to Leviticus 19:18, "Do not seek revenge nor bear a grudge against one of your own people; but you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am Yahweh." is holy.
13 Did that which is righteous, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through that which was righteous, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful.
"sin might become utterly sinful" breaking "do not steal" is sin and death
14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin.
the Law is spiritual;
Do not hold back the wages of a hired man overnight. Do not curse the deaf or put a stumblingblock in front of the blind; but reverence your Father. I am Yahweh. Do not pervert judgment: You shall not show partiality to the poor, nor honor to the person of the great.
Breaking "You shall not show partiality to the poor, nor honor to the person of the great." is carnal
16 And if I did what I did not want to do, I agreed that the Law is righteous.
17 As it was, it was no longer I myself who did it, but it was sin living in me.
22 For I delight in the Law of Yahweh according to the inward man;
23 But I saw another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the Law in my mind, and bringing me into captivity of the law of sin, which is in my members.
25 Thanks be to Yahweh, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of Yahweh, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.
"I have deliverance"
deliverance from "do not steal" or deliverance from breaking "do not steal"
Romans 8:
2 Because through Yahshua Messiah, the Law of the Spirit has set me free from the law of sin and death.
(Romans 7:14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin.)
3 For what the Law was powerless to do, in that men sought to defeat; overthrow, fit, Yahweh did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, to bear witness against sin. And so He condemned the sins of all mankind."
Is sin "do not steal?"
or is sin breaking "do not steal?"
(Romans 7:14 For we know that the Law is spiritual
Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."
What is the flesh opposed to?
Following Yahweh's Law?
Rejecting Yahweh's Law?
carnal mind is enmity against
for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh
2 peter 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."
Psalm 19:7-10, "The Laws of Yahweh are perfect, converting the whole person. The testimony of Yahweh is sure, making the simple ones wise. The statutes of Yahweh are right, rejoicing the heart; mind. The commandments of Yahweh are pure, bringing understanding to the eyes. The reverence of Yahweh is clean, enduring forever. The judgments of Yahweh are true and altogether righteous. They are more to be desired than gold, yes, than even much fine gold. They are sweeter than honey and the honeycomb."
25 Thanks be to Yahweh, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of Yahweh, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.
delivered from the law of sin.
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER....
The law of sin and death is not, "do not steal" "do not kill" "love your neighbor" "do not take the Name of YHWH in vain", the law of sin and death is what you see on a television daily...
Ok, so Romans 7:
7 What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet.
12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.
Obedience to Leviticus 19:18, "Do not seek revenge nor bear a grudge against one of your own people; but you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am Yahweh." is holy.
13 Did that which is righteous, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through that which was righteous, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful.
"sin might become utterly sinful" breaking "do not steal" is sin and death
14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin.
the Law is spiritual;
Do not hold back the wages of a hired man overnight. Do not curse the deaf or put a stumblingblock in front of the blind; but reverence your Father. I am Yahweh. Do not pervert judgment: You shall not show partiality to the poor, nor honor to the person of the great.
Breaking "You shall not show partiality to the poor, nor honor to the person of the great." is carnal
16 And if I did what I did not want to do, I agreed that the Law is righteous.
17 As it was, it was no longer I myself who did it, but it was sin living in me.
22 For I delight in the Law of Yahweh according to the inward man;
23 But I saw another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the Law in my mind, and bringing me into captivity of the law of sin, which is in my members.
25 Thanks be to Yahweh, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of Yahweh, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.
"I have deliverance"
deliverance from "do not steal" or deliverance from breaking "do not steal"
Romans 8:
2 Because through Yahshua Messiah, the Law of the Spirit has set me free from the law of sin and death.
(Romans 7:14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin.)
3 For what the Law was powerless to do, in that men sought to defeat; overthrow, fit, Yahweh did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, to bear witness against sin. And so He condemned the sins of all mankind."
Is sin "do not steal?"
or is sin breaking "do not steal?"
(Romans 7:14 For we know that the Law is spiritual
Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."
What is the flesh opposed to?
Following Yahweh's Law?
Rejecting Yahweh's Law?
carnal mind is enmity against
for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh
2 peter 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."
Psalm 19:7-10, "The Laws of Yahweh are perfect, converting the whole person. The testimony of Yahweh is sure, making the simple ones wise. The statutes of Yahweh are right, rejoicing the heart; mind. The commandments of Yahweh are pure, bringing understanding to the eyes. The reverence of Yahweh is clean, enduring forever. The judgments of Yahweh are true and altogether righteous. They are more to be desired than gold, yes, than even much fine gold. They are sweeter than honey and the honeycomb."
"establish their own righteousness"
The pharisee made their own law...
Mark 7:
6 He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.
7 But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men!
9 Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!
Romans 10:4, "For Christ is the end (telos) of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."
Romans 10:4, "For Yahshua is the ultimate result (telos) of the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes."
1Peter 1:9, "Receiving the end (telos) of your faith, even the salvation of your souls."
1 Kepha (Peter) 1:9, "Receiving the ultimate result (telos) of your faith--the salvation of your souls."
If the its the end of the Law aka Law is done away in Romans 10:4 then faith must also be done away in 1 Kepha (Peter) 1:9. Unless of course telos means the goal.
Greek Dictionary (Lexicon-Concordance) - #5056 telos {tel'-os} from a primary tello (to set out for a definite point or goal)
HELPS Word-studies - 5056 télos (a neuter noun) – properly, consummation (the end-goal, purpose), such as closure with all its results.
James 5:11, "Behold, we call them blessed that endured: ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end (telos) of the Lord, how that the Lord is full of pity, and merciful."
Yaaqob (James) 5:11, "Behold, we regard as blessed those who endure. You have heard of the patience of Iyyob, and have seen the ultimate result (telos) of Yahweh: that Yahweh is very compassionate and merciful."
The pharisee made their own law...
Mark 7:
6 He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.
7 But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men!
9 Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!
Romans 10:4, "For Christ is the end (telos) of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."
Romans 10:4, "For Yahshua is the ultimate result (telos) of the Law unto righteousness for everyone who believes."
1Peter 1:9, "Receiving the end (telos) of your faith, even the salvation of your souls."
1 Kepha (Peter) 1:9, "Receiving the ultimate result (telos) of your faith--the salvation of your souls."
If the its the end of the Law aka Law is done away in Romans 10:4 then faith must also be done away in 1 Kepha (Peter) 1:9. Unless of course telos means the goal.
Greek Dictionary (Lexicon-Concordance) - #5056 telos {tel'-os} from a primary tello (to set out for a definite point or goal)
HELPS Word-studies - 5056 télos (a neuter noun) – properly, consummation (the end-goal, purpose), such as closure with all its results.
James 5:11, "Behold, we call them blessed that endured: ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end (telos) of the Lord, how that the Lord is full of pity, and merciful."
Yaaqob (James) 5:11, "Behold, we regard as blessed those who endure. You have heard of the patience of Iyyob, and have seen the ultimate result (telos) of Yahweh: that Yahweh is very compassionate and merciful."
H
Christians love others so we don't steal. And any who do get tempted into stealing are disciplined for it by God. But this is not sin that can be charged against us, Rom 8:33. Satan, the accuser, has been cast down and Christians overcome him by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony, Rev 12:9-11
Legalists, however, remain under the jurisdiction of the law (Rom 3:19) therefore they make themselves a sinner (Gal 2:18) as they reject Christ's sacrifice and thus are charged with sin.
Legalists, however, remain under the jurisdiction of the law (Rom 3:19) therefore they make themselves a sinner (Gal 2:18) as they reject Christ's sacrifice and thus are charged with sin.
H
From the little I know of the term Antinomianism I understand it's supported by scripture.
but for you Legalists, you always seem to filter every scripture through a desire to be under the law for righteousness.
These scriptures support what I have said.
Christians establish the law in that we acknowledge that it is good, just and holy, and that we all were deserving of its death penalty. The difference is that we sought God's mercy and thus crucified our old man so that our life can be hid with Christ in God, Col 3:3.
The point you seem to be trying to make by those scriptures is clearly through that filter of desiring to be under the law.
but the law is not of faith, Gal 3:12.
No, I did not say that.
I said that you desire to be under the law therefore you are under its jurisdiction for righteousness, Rom 3:19. And as you fail to keep the law thus you are guilty of ALL of it and thereby a worker of iniquity.
No, that is not a lie.
But as you admitted you fail to keep the law, then yourself are condemned.
But for believers, their life is hid with Christ in God, Col 3:3. Thus we're covered by Christ's righteousness/holiness/sinlessness.
Whilst neither you nor I are physically perfect in behavior, the difference between us is that my old man has been crucified and my life is now hid with Christ. But your old physical man is still determining its righteousness by its own physical works.
anyway, I'm off to work now.
but for you Legalists, you always seem to filter every scripture through a desire to be under the law for righteousness.
These scriptures support what I have said.
Christians establish the law in that we acknowledge that it is good, just and holy, and that we all were deserving of its death penalty. The difference is that we sought God's mercy and thus crucified our old man so that our life can be hid with Christ in God, Col 3:3.
The point you seem to be trying to make by those scriptures is clearly through that filter of desiring to be under the law.
but the law is not of faith, Gal 3:12.
No, I did not say that.
I said that you desire to be under the law therefore you are under its jurisdiction for righteousness, Rom 3:19. And as you fail to keep the law thus you are guilty of ALL of it and thereby a worker of iniquity.
No, that is not a lie.
But as you admitted you fail to keep the law, then yourself are condemned.
But for believers, their life is hid with Christ in God, Col 3:3. Thus we're covered by Christ's righteousness/holiness/sinlessness.
Whilst neither you nor I are physically perfect in behavior, the difference between us is that my old man has been crucified and my life is now hid with Christ. But your old physical man is still determining its righteousness by its own physical works.
anyway, I'm off to work now.
K
You mean like God said here?
Ro 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Yes I believe the word of God
Ro 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Yes I believe the word of God
Yes but you keep leaving out verse 7 and not highlighting it, as if you don't want to pay any attention to it.
For it says in verse 7 that their sins have been forgiven and covered, and that is why in verse 8 they will no longer be imputed on them.
Now you have to go by the rest of the scriptures in the NT to know how that forgiveness and covering of your sins takes place. First is through repentance and baptism to receive the remission for sins, then through confession of your future sins are they covered.........You must take the whole context from the entire NT, and not just a few verses...
M
What? lol
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
what part of "will not" impute sin do you not understand?
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
1Jo 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
what part of "will not" impute sin do you not understand?
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
1Jo 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
P
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.[SUP]7[/SUP] What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
[SUP]8[/SUP] But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
[SUP]9[/SUP] For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[SUP]10[/SUP] And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[SUP]11[/SUP] For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
[SUP]12[/SUP] Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
[SUP]13[/SUP] Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
[SUP]14[/SUP] For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
[SUP]15[/SUP] For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
[SUP]16[/SUP] If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
[SUP]17[/SUP] Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[SUP]18[/SUP] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
[SUP]19[/SUP] For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
[SUP]20[/SUP] Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[SUP]21[/SUP] I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
[SUP]22[/SUP] For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
[SUP]23[/SUP] But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
[SUP]24[/SUP] O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
[SUP]25[/SUP] I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
[SUP]8[/SUP] But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
[SUP]9[/SUP] For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[SUP]10[/SUP] And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[SUP]11[/SUP] For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
[SUP]12[/SUP] Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
[SUP]13[/SUP] Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
[SUP]14[/SUP] For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
[SUP]15[/SUP] For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
[SUP]16[/SUP] If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
[SUP]17[/SUP] Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[SUP]18[/SUP] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
[SUP]19[/SUP] For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
[SUP]20[/SUP] Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[SUP]21[/SUP] I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
[SUP]22[/SUP] For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
[SUP]23[/SUP] But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
[SUP]24[/SUP] O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
[SUP]25[/SUP] I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
P
[SUP]1[/SUP] There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]2[/SUP] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
[SUP]3[/SUP] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[SUP]4[/SUP] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5[/SUP] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[SUP]6[/SUP] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[SUP]7[/SUP] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[SUP]8[/SUP] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
[SUP]9[/SUP] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[SUP]10[/SUP] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
[SUP]11[/SUP] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
[SUP]12[/SUP] Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
[SUP]13[/SUP] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
[SUP]14[/SUP] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
[SUP]15[/SUP] For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[SUP]16[/SUP] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
[SUP]17[/SUP] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
[SUP]18[/SUP] For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
[SUP]19[/SUP] For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
[SUP]20[/SUP] For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
[SUP]21[/SUP] Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
[SUP]22[/SUP] For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
[SUP]23[/SUP] And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
[SUP]24[/SUP] For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
[SUP]25[/SUP] But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
[SUP]26[/SUP] Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
[SUP]27[/SUP] And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
[SUP]28[/SUP] And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
[SUP]29[/SUP] For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
[SUP]30[/SUP] Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
[SUP]31[/SUP] What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
[SUP]32[/SUP] He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
[SUP]33[/SUP] Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
[SUP]34[/SUP] Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
[SUP]35[/SUP] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
[SUP]36[/SUP] As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
[SUP]37[/SUP] Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
[SUP]38[/SUP] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
[SUP]39[/SUP] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
[SUP]2[/SUP] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
[SUP]3[/SUP] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[SUP]4[/SUP] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5[/SUP] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[SUP]6[/SUP] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[SUP]7[/SUP] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[SUP]8[/SUP] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
[SUP]9[/SUP] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[SUP]10[/SUP] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
[SUP]11[/SUP] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
[SUP]12[/SUP] Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
[SUP]13[/SUP] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
[SUP]14[/SUP] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
[SUP]15[/SUP] For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[SUP]16[/SUP] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
[SUP]17[/SUP] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
[SUP]18[/SUP] For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
[SUP]19[/SUP] For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
[SUP]20[/SUP] For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
[SUP]21[/SUP] Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
[SUP]22[/SUP] For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
[SUP]23[/SUP] And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
[SUP]24[/SUP] For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
[SUP]25[/SUP] But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
[SUP]26[/SUP] Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
[SUP]27[/SUP] And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
[SUP]28[/SUP] And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
[SUP]29[/SUP] For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
[SUP]30[/SUP] Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
[SUP]31[/SUP] What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
[SUP]32[/SUP] He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
[SUP]33[/SUP] Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
[SUP]34[/SUP] Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
[SUP]35[/SUP] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
[SUP]36[/SUP] As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
[SUP]37[/SUP] Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
[SUP]38[/SUP] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
[SUP]39[/SUP] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
K
Once again you leave out verse 7......................
Romans 4:7
Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Here is how remission of sins gets received to forgive and cover your sins..................
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[h=1]1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.[/h]
What sins were forgiven and covered at the time of repentance and baptism......................
Romans 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
[h=1]2 Peter 1:5-9
But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.[/h]
How do we know the confession for sins to receive remission for them is to be done on future besides just what Peter and Paul both said on how only past sins were cleansed, forgiven, covered. Because of what John says in chapter 2;
1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
He says he hopes that we would not sin, but knowing that we will still sin he says we have an advocate in Jesus Christ that when that confession is made he will forgive us and cleanse us of that unrighteousness. Then and only then after you have repented, been baptized, and confessed those sins to receive that remission are they not imputed on you again.
You can not have sins not imputed on you before they are even given remission...............
P
Yes the whole context. It comes down to how much you feel Christ paid for on the cross and how much you feel man needs to add to it to be saved and remain saved. We are saved by faith which comes from hearing the word of God. The plan was set up by God who is love. God so loved the world....the world! Whosover beliveth in Jesus should not parish but have everlasting life. To add to the simple plan of salvation is deceptive. No one, neither you nor I nor the any on the face of this earth are worthy enough to work our way into eternal security. Can't be done period! The law was the schoolmaster that proved this.
I you were on a plane that was goping down and someone came to you and said: " I have never accepted jesus and now I want to before I die" Would you say " sorry it is impossible because eyou need to get baptized and we can't do that here?" Please my brother seek God's face and ask him to reveal to you the truth of His word ...so the simplicity that is in Christ is not spoiled. I am quite sure your and other;s intentions are good but so many have added works to the simple plan of salvation. Spoken in love I pray you can humble yourself enough to receive it.
I you were on a plane that was goping down and someone came to you and said: " I have never accepted jesus and now I want to before I die" Would you say " sorry it is impossible because eyou need to get baptized and we can't do that here?" Please my brother seek God's face and ask him to reveal to you the truth of His word ...so the simplicity that is in Christ is not spoiled. I am quite sure your and other;s intentions are good but so many have added works to the simple plan of salvation. Spoken in love I pray you can humble yourself enough to receive it.
M
I know that its hard for some to understand that God has justified us...they need confession for their own conscience ...but God is not imputing sin to those He has justified by faith in His Son....you cannot be justified one min and then a sinner under law the next...that's silly!
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
1Jo 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
1Jo 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
P
Technically ....please study this out. We are baptized into Christ at the time we accept him as our savior. The process of water baptisim is a great and wonderful thing but it is only an outward showing of an inward acceptance of Jesus as savior. Let no man say otherwise as it is adding man's works to God's plan of salvation!