Spritually seperated

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mystic7

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What do you do when your wife (BornAgain) 26yrs marriage does not attend the same church as you (prefers to stay in a church pastor a family member). You live under the same roof but you are spiritually seperated. Claims its her right/Will to do as she wills. Been living this way for the last 10yrs. Adult and teen children, gotten to the stage I want to leave. I'm just staying because of the kids.
Wife frierndly to males in her church claims its "Fellowship"
 
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What do you do when your wife (BornAgain) 26yrs marriage does not attend the same church as you (prefers to stay in a church pastor a family member). You live under the same roof but you are spiritually seperated. Claims its her right/Will to do as she wills. Been living this way for the last 10yrs. Adult and teen children, gotten to the stage I want to leave. I'm just staying because of the kids.
Wife frierndly to males in her church claims its "Fellowship"
I would not say "spiritually" separated, but separated and, it would be important to check what were those agreements you set before being married. Did you talked about that during courtship?

I myself made the mistake (and probably my ex-wife did the same) of marrying a person with different "spiritual" views and denominational beliefs.

Once a person married... Should things remain the same?

Allow me to share this I read to help you find what others probably did:


  • YEAR BORN: 1987
  • COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: AZERBAIJAN
  • HISTORY: MUSLIM FATHER AND JEWISH MOTHER

    MY PAST:

I was born in Baku, Azerbaijan, as the second of two children. My father was Muslim, and my mother was Jewish. My parents loved each other and accepted their differing beliefs. Mom supported Dad when he fasted during Ramadan, and Dad supported Mom when she observed the Passover. In our home we had the Koran, the Torah, and the Bible.
I considered myself a Muslim. Although I never questioned God’s existence, there were issues that puzzled me. I wondered, ‘Why did God create humans, and for what useful purpose would someone suffer his entire life only to be tormented forever in hell?’ Since people said that everything that happens is God’s will, I wondered, ‘Is God just a puppeteer who enjoys watching people suffer?’
When I was 12 years old, I started to pray namaz, the Muslim’s five daily ceremonial prayers. About that time, Father sent my sister and me to a Jewish school. Among other subjects, we were taught Torah traditions and the Hebrew language. Before daily classroom lessons, we had to pray according to Jewish tradition. Thus, in the morning, I prayed namaz at home, and later in the day, I joined Jewish prayers in school.
I desperately hungered for logical answers to my questions. I repeatedly asked the rabbis at school: “Why did God create humans? How does God view my Muslim father? He is a good man, so why is he considered unclean? Why did God create him?” The few answers I received were irrational and unconvincing.


HOW THE BIBLE CHANGED MY LIFE:

My faith in God was shattered in 2002. We had just immigrated to Germany when, only a week later, my father suffered a stroke and fell into a coma. For years I had prayed for the health and well-being of my family. Convinced that the Almighty alone has power over life and death, I pleaded every day for the life of my dad. I thought, ‘It is a small thing for God to fulfill a little girl’s heartfelt wish.’ I was sure he would grant my entreaties. But my father died.
Aghast at God’s seeming indifference, I was devastated. ‘Either I am praying the wrong way,’ I reasoned, ‘or God does not exist.’ I was stunned and unable to pray namaz anymore. Other religions did not make sense to me, so I concluded that there is no God. (...)



source:
“Why Did God Create Humans?” Bible Truth Satisfied My Thirst for Answers | Bible Changes Lives

Is it possible to cope with THAT, too?

If I loved a person, much more than my self-centered desires, I think I could cope with it.

Several men (women) did it.
 
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What do you do when your wife (BornAgain) 26yrs marriage does not attend the same church as you (prefers to stay in a church pastor a family member). You live under the same roof but you are spiritually seperated. Claims its her right/Will to do as she wills. Been living this way for the last 10yrs. Adult and teen children, gotten to the stage I want to leave. I'm just staying because of the kids.
Wife frierndly to males in her church claims its "Fellowship"
Do you feel your wife is spiritually cheating on you?
 
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There is no such a thing as "spirtitually" separated.

You are having serious marital problems.
If you want to leave, you can do that without trying to spirtualise the situation and looking for someone to blame or something to blame other than what is REALLY going on between you two.
 

santuzza

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Why don't you want to attend the same church she does? Is it that bad? Is it unbiblical? Are they teaching false doctrine there? If you start going to church together, you might be able to make a better argument for why you think your family should change churches.

I realize you are the spiritual head of your household, but your wife is not an automaton nor an idiot. Fully investigate her church and give good, solid, Biblical reasons why you believe your family should attend a different church. If she cares at all about submitting to you and keeping the family unified, she will acquiesce.
 

santuzza

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Here are some additional thoughts: Is your wife growing, spiritually? Is she maturing in her faith and walk? Does she serve the church and community, being a good witness of her faith? Do your kids like the church? Are they growing, spiritually? These are all important questions.
 
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There is no such a thing as "spirtitually" separated.

You are having serious marital problems.
If you want to leave, you can do that without trying to spirtualise the situation and looking for someone to blame or something to blame other than what is REALLY going on between you two.
Simply sorted out!

Before starting a long walking or journey, Amos 3:3 spoke well.
 

mystic7

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I would not say "spiritually" separated, but separated and, it would be important to check what were those agreements you set before being married. Did you talked about that during courtship?

I myself made the mistake (and probably my ex-wife did the same) of marrying a person with different "spiritual" views and denominational beliefs.

Once a person married... Should things remain the same?

Allow me to share this I read to help you find what others probably did:


  • YEAR BORN: 1987
  • COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: AZERBAIJAN
  • HISTORY: MUSLIM FATHER AND JEWISH MOTHER

    MY PAST:

I was born in Baku, Azerbaijan, as the second of two children. My father was Muslim, and my mother was Jewish. My parents loved each other and accepted their differing beliefs. Mom supported Dad when he fasted during Ramadan, and Dad supported Mom when she observed the Passover. In our home we had the Koran, the Torah, and the Bible.
I considered myself a Muslim. Although I never questioned God’s existence, there were issues that puzzled me. I wondered, ‘Why did God create humans, and for what useful purpose would someone suffer his entire life only to be tormented forever in hell?’ Since people said that everything that happens is God’s will, I wondered, ‘Is God just a puppeteer who enjoys watching people suffer?’
When I was 12 years old, I started to pray namaz, the Muslim’s five daily ceremonial prayers. About that time, Father sent my sister and me to a Jewish school. Among other subjects, we were taught Torah traditions and the Hebrew language. Before daily classroom lessons, we had to pray according to Jewish tradition. Thus, in the morning, I prayed namaz at home, and later in the day, I joined Jewish prayers in school.
I desperately hungered for logical answers to my questions. I repeatedly asked the rabbis at school: “Why did God create humans? How does God view my Muslim father? He is a good man, so why is he considered unclean? Why did God create him?” The few answers I received were irrational and unconvincing.


HOW THE BIBLE CHANGED MY LIFE:

My faith in God was shattered in 2002. We had just immigrated to Germany when, only a week later, my father suffered a stroke and fell into a coma. For years I had prayed for the health and well-being of my family. Convinced that the Almighty alone has power over life and death, I pleaded every day for the life of my dad. I thought, ‘It is a small thing for God to fulfill a little girl’s heartfelt wish.’ I was sure he would grant my entreaties. But my father died.
Aghast at God’s seeming indifference, I was devastated. ‘Either I am praying the wrong way,’ I reasoned, ‘or God does not exist.’ I was stunned and unable to pray namaz anymore. Other religions did not make sense to me, so I concluded that there is no God. (...)



source:
“Why Did God Create Humans?” Bible Truth Satisfied My Thirst for Answers | Bible Changes Lives

Is it possible to cope with THAT, too?

If I loved a person, much more than my self-centered desires, I think I could cope with it.

Several men (women) did it.
Thank you God Bless
 
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If both really like to "share" it´d be nice to attend each church (and having it at home, if both have children there).

As an old wolf I have seen with lack of trust what you vaguely mentioned on post 1 (Wife friendly (?) to males in her church claims its "Fellowship")

The best thing is talking with her! Going to that place and see what really going one, unless you´re left home taking care of diapered babies all the time.
 

mystic7

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There is no such a thing as "spirtitually" separated.

You are having serious marital problems.
If you want to leave, you can do that without trying to spirtualise the situation and looking for someone to blame or something to blame other than what is REALLY going on between you two.
She does not join me in our outreachers, attend my sermons,we don't pray together because we go to different churches. She prefers the AOG doctrines, don't judge, all about love, knows baptism Holy Doctrine is wrong (practice repeat after me version of speaking in tongues) but it's all about love. Only cooks food for her church functions, times fellowships until 0ne in the morning, not spiritually seperated? Difficult serving God.
 

mystic7

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If both really like to "share" it´d be nice to attend each church (and having it at home, if both have children there).

As an old wolf I have seen with lack of trust what you vaguely mentioned on post 1 (Wife friendly (?) to males in her church claims its "Fellowship")



The best thing is talking with her! Going to that place and see what really going one, unless you´re left home taking care of diapered babies all the time.
I've tried this but when I ask her to attend my church refuses, states she's not comfortable.
 
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Are you a preacher? "...attend my sermons..."

She has an issue against you, Have you hurt her, somehow? particularly using the bible to "enforce" your views and opinions /convenience?
 
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I've tried this but when I ask her to attend my church refuses, states she's not comfortable.
Maybe she´s saying her truth... have you asked her more about it?

She has the clues (and the keys) you need to press on.

Have gone for counseling?

how long that has been so?

If your marriage beds are not for EROS love, you are really separated.

:(
 
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She does not join me in our outreachers, attend my sermons,we don't pray together because we go to different churches. She prefers the AOG doctrines, don't judge, all about love, knows baptism Holy Doctrine is wrong (practice repeat after me version of speaking in tongues) but it's all about love. Only cooks food for her church functions, times fellowships until 0ne in the morning, not spiritually seperated? Difficult serving God.
Be informed, sir: God has trillions of beings serving Him better than us.

He won´t be missing a person who has to serve (and sort) the problems of his own house.
 

mystic7

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Here are some additional thoughts: Is your wife growing, spiritually? Is she maturing in her faith and walk? Does she serve the church and community, being a good witness of her faith? Do your kids like the church? Are they growing, spiritually? These are all important questions.
Our children are stable but the wife spiritual growth? she was bought up in the King James version, fed by the preaching of the Word (pentacostal) but after joining the AOG, changed to NIV version and prefers Paraphrase preaching, a lot of stories and jokes. The problem is the church she attends is family based, she doesn't want to leave her family. Even the pastor was a pentacostal but went joined the AOG (Superattendint his uncle)
 
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Salvation is individual:

Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there will be two in one bed. One will be taken and the other left.
 

mystic7

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Be informed, sir: God has trillions of beings serving Him better than us.

He won´t be missing a person who has to serve (and sort) the problems of his own house.
In my teens I was heavy involed in drugs, when I gave my life to Jesus I gave all.I've got no other life but to serve him to the fullest. I find it difficult when I compromise my walk, there is no joy.