Theory of Final Authority

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valiant

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secularhermit said:
"#1. All scripture is given by inspiration of God.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:"

By the time Paul wrote, he wasn't thinking his letters would be considered inspired, neither Scripture.
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You have Scriptural proof of that? Paul saw himself as having received unique revelations and as delivering the word of God in a unique way and while he was alive Peter declared that his letters were Scripture in a way that demonstrated that it was regularly accepted (2 Pet 3.16). Strange if he did not realise it himself.
 
Makahiya2028

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The statement says all scripture is given by inspiration of God .

Revelation 1:1-2
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him,
to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;
and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ,
and of all things that he saw.













 
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Ok, here we go !

How many believe all scripture is given by inspiration of God ?

How many believe they have scripture given by inspiration of God ?
 
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post number 103 and you are ready to "START" ?!?! after all the subtlety, posts in error, mis-direction, 'challenges'? to an ungodly discussion ? with what kind of motive ?

GOD is not pleased with man's theories. nor with man's religions, nor with anything that comes from the flesh.
"that which is born of the flesh, is flesh, and profits nothing".
 
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1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.


 
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Please stay on point .

Jeff, do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?
 
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i guess you missed it. (and the point is not the apparent empty point of this thread)

the point is TRUTH.

here's what you've missed so often, so far, apparently;

, the inspired WORD of GOD.>>

"that which is born of the flesh, is flesh, and profits nothing".

Makahiya2028 said:
Please stay on point .
Jeff, do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?
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ok, thanks, the topic of this thread is final authority, the issue is final canonization .

The question is Do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?
 
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slave said:
the scriptures state...All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching rebuking correcting and training in righteousness. 2 Tim. 3:16...that is not what you have written ...remember my point bad info in bad conclusion out...this changes your logic in the conclusion. right? Or am I wrong.?
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All scripture is given by inspiration of God .

What are you calling scripture ?



 
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Does anyone believe all scripture is given by inspiration of God ?

Does anyone believe they have scripture given by inspiration of God ?
 
Dan_473

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Makahiya2028 said:
The central critical issue in academic Theology is final authority.
I wish to present my theory of final authority and final canonization,
not to doubtful disputation, envy, strive or contention
but in sincerity and love.

Romans 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye,
but not to doubtful disputations.

Philippians 1:15-17
15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife . . .
16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely . . .
17 But the other of love . . .
　
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#1. All scripture is given by inspiration of God.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:

#2. The scriptures are the final authority.
1 Corinthians 15:3-4
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received,
how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day
according to the scriptures.
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good verses! I also like to keep in mind also that it's the spirit that guides into all truth...

and, that the church is the pillar and ground of the truth...
 
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Do you believe all scripture is given by inspiration of God ?

Do you believe you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?
 
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Jeff_56 said:
how deep? not at all! if it (mankind's what is falsely called knowledge/wisdom/"educated" ) is not rejected, you won't be saved. yahweh curses everyone who trusts in mankind/the flesh/scholarship to be saved.
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Your statements are correct!, My brother...but wrap it in love and the fruit of your words will flourish ....you don't have to prove your point- your words do. Rest on that fact. The Holy Spirit has you covered.
 
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slave

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Makahiya2028 said:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God .

What are you calling scripture ?
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My point in saying that was what do you think inspiration means?....God handing to men who are fallible in their interpretations? Or as I tried to identify...God-breathed...From Him to us thru men but not in any detail not monitored or approved by Him in the final text.Isaiah 55:11 comes to mind:

My Word be that goeth out of MY mouth, it shall not return unto me void. Not only is He in control of the Words from Himself to our bible, but it is a Word that has a Spirit that is alive attached to it. And God asks us to test the Spirits. You ask if all scriptures are in the same pool of acceptance...NO!, for His Word tells us to test those that do not match that of Spirit of the Holy Spirit speaking to us, as well. There is also a difference between paraphrased translations vs. translations...but anyway..I need to read more I just got here again...
 
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slave

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I see you , like a car salesman...trying to have us line up our thinking so you can deliver your message ...but we are interactive thinkers. I believe you would be best served to just make conclusive statements then let the forum discuss those conclusions...which you can be a part of obviously. You have treated us like we are school children, and your whole point so far I see is making us line up in the milk line properly ....all we want is the milk.

And as you are busy setting up the line over and over the line is grabbing the milk from the vendor as He tosses it out to us. I have yet to get it clear from you...

If this is all from God and you are a man of God...why are we still in the line waiting?

Proverbs 16:9. The heart of a man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps.
 
slave

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If all you are saying is that Scripture is the final word....then yes I agree 100%. And not because I feel good about the decision, but because the Bible tells me so...period! Is that the message?
 
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slave said:
My point in saying that was what do you think inspiration means?....God handing to men who are fallible in their interpretations? Or as I tried to identify...God-breathed...From Him to us thru men but not in any detail not monitored or approved by Him in the final text.Isaiah 55:11 comes to mind:

My Word be that goeth out of MY mouth, it shall not return unto me void. Not only is He in control of the Words from Himself to our bible, but it is a Word that has a Spirit that is alive attached to it. And God asks us to test the Spirits. You ask if all scriptures are in the same pool of acceptance...NO!, for His Word tells us to test those that do not match that of Spirit of the Holy Spirit speaking to us, as well. There is also a difference between paraphrased translations vs. translations...but anyway..I need to read more I just got here again...
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The scripture states that all scripture is given by inspiration of God .

What are you calling scripture ?


 
Makahiya2028

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slave said:
I see you , like a car salesman...trying to have us line up our thinking so you can deliver your message ...but we are interactive thinkers. I believe you would be best served to just make conclusive statements then let the forum discuss those conclusions...which you can be a part of obviously. You have treated us like we are school children, and your whole point so far I see is making us line up in the milk line properly ....all we want is the milk.

And as you are busy setting up the line over and over the line is grabbing the milk from the vendor as He tosses it out to us. I have yet to get it clear from you...

If this is all from God and you are a man of God...why are we still in the line waiting?

Proverbs 16:9. The heart of a man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps.
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We must start at a point of agreement .

Do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?



 
Makahiya2028

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ok, good, what book do you have containing scripture

given by inspiration of God ?
 
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