Police Officers Shot and Killed

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The number of LEOs killed in the line of duty by offenders this year climbs to 16, with total line-of-duty deaths now at 41. We're barely into the fifth month of the year, and not into the annual "long hot summer." The radical left has painted a target on the backs of police officers everywhere, and the barbarians are coming out of their holes in the ground to hunt.
 
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Proverbs 29:2 when the wicked rule the people mourn.

What will it take for the people to see the hand of Almighty God moving in the USA?

For the cause of Christ
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Viligant_Warrior said:
The number of LEOs killed in the line of duty by offenders this year climbs to 16, with total line-of-duty deaths now at 41. We're barely into the fifth month of the year, and not into the annual "long hot summer." The radical left has painted a target on the backs of police officers everywhere, and the barbarians are coming out of their holes in the ground to hunt.
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Well Im sure it will take time to bring the case in Baltimore to court.I fully expect the violence will be much worse when it all comes out.I dont see how they are going to be able to get a conviction for murder,though they have promised they will.Things are not going to settle down anytime soon thats for sure.
 
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Most of these criminals walk the yard like they're the baddest bull in the pen but once someone sticks them with some cold steel a few times, and their blood starts squirting out from numerous wounds, they run as fast as they can to the nearest guard they can find for protection just like when they used to run home to mommy as teenagers when the police chased them for committing crimes.

They have no remorse while murdering but become fearful when it's their turn to die. Dishing out violence and death isn't the same thing as standing up to it. Two different things. I won't speak on it further.
 
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I have friends in law enforcement. Frankly there's not enough money in the world to pay me to do that job. While I know most officers are decent people, the law enforcement community is it's own worst enemy. In the past few weeks I've watched a guy blow thru a stop sign (never even slowed down), another driver miss a pedestrian in a cross walk by mere inches, and yet another driver blow thru a red light - all right in front of our city's patrol officers who did absolutely nothing. Couple that with all the unnecessary and outright cold blooded shootings lately, I have no wonder as to why so many people are out for them. I'm not condoning it, mind you, just saying hat if you don't want to get shot at stop painting targets on yourselves! And that applies just as much to anyone being confronted by a police officer. Frankly, if you endanger the lives of the public by running, the police should have the right to kick the living snot out you when they catch you. But shoot you in the back? NO.
 
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So what happens when the Baltimore six are acquitted? What message is sent if they are convicted through political pressure? How do we adjudicate this case? Who is unbiased enough to rule on this matter?

The part of Baltimore where this incident started is very dangerous. Drug trafficking and murder rate is very high. How do we change a culture that has been defining itself for six decades?

The incident in Mississippi is likely not the last but only a beginning. The police are brutal because the environment in which they operate demands it. The anxiety level for all police officers is only going to increase making them more wary and increasingly likely to defend themselves more aggressively.

For the cause of Christ
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Law enforcement is a tough job. You've got people who want to shake your hand, you've got others who want to kill you. And you can't usually tell one from the other until it's too late. That shootout in North Hollywood CA seems to be when the police started becoming more militarized. And with good reason. But a cop has got to discern when to be a cop and when to be a soldier, because getting it wrong on either account has a heavy price.

That's why you see a lot of cops becoming firemen, but you don't see firemen becoming cops!

(Well actually I do know of one, but he was bent to begin with)
 
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Law enforcement was quite militarized during WWII but after the war settled down into the more 'Andy Griffith Show' mode of the 50's and early 60's. It began to ratchet up again from the mid to late 60's to deal with domestic terrorist organizations. Police departments began forming SWAT teams at this time.

For example, here you can see LAPD shooting it out with the SLA. Notice they're using .223-caliber semi-auto versions of Vietnam War military grade rifles along with shotguns and bullet proof vests under their shirts: https://youtu.be/QMOiJRpQvms

Of course, the gang explosion from 1980 to the mid 1990s caused law enforcement to step up their game even further. That's when they started purchasing vehicles to crash thru crack houses and investing in full auto weaponry for certain situations. A lot of militarization all over the country appeared at this time even in small towns that had never had it before.

I think what the North Hollywood debacle did was provide the rationale to push the militarization, that already existed, even further into smaller police departments.

My two cents.


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That shootout in North Hollywood CA seems to be when the police started becoming more militarized.
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Well yeah, that's certainly the more detailed version of it! It's been a steady progression for sure. Like you said NoHo wasn't the beginning, but did kick it into a higher gear. And make it more "public". 9/11 took it up several more notches.
 
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Definitely 911 took it up several more notches. 911 took everything up several more notches especially with the formation of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.



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Well yeah, that's certainly the more detailed version of it! It's been a steady progression for sure. Like you said NoHo wasn't the beginning, but did kick it into a higher gear. And make it more "public". 9/11 took it up several more notches.
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You mean the Dept. of Homeboy Scrutiny? ;)
 
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Isn't the radical left the side that wants to ban private ownership of guns?
 
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Ummmm - well, what will they shoot people with ?
Seems to me that the side defending guns is the side most likely to use them - and that's the RIGHT!
 
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No doubt you can provide some EVIDENCE that the perpetrators hail from "the radical left" ?!
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He didnt say the perpetrators were radical left, he said the radical left has encouraged it.
 
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Ummmm - well, what will they shoot people with ?
Seems to me that the side defending guns is the side most likely to use them - and that's the RIGHT!
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People will find ways to kill without guns. Strictest guns laws stop no one.Any number of ways you can kill people. Does the evidence back up your claim though?
 
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kaylagrl said:
He didnt say the perpetrators were radical left, he said the radical left has encouraged it.
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You are quite right. But the context clearly implies that by encouraging it, the "radical" Left would be accessories - and therefore equally guilty.

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.... The radical left has painted a target on the backs of police officers everywhere, and the barbarians are coming out of their holes in the ground to hunt.
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Isn't the radical left the side that wants to ban private ownership of guns?
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Ummmm - well, what will they shoot people with ?
Seems to me that the side defending guns is the side most likely to use them - and that's the RIGHT!
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I wonder how come those on the right always refer to the "RADICAL" left.
Surely there are many millions of non-conservatives who are moderate (even apathetic) and far from 'radical ?


As for my "Seems to me that the side defending guns is the side most likely to use them - and that's the RIGHT!",
I stress the first three words.
Sure, it's an opinion.
But who do you reckon would be most likely to own guns - those seeking to ban private ownership or those defending the current system ?
SO, who do you think would be most likely to use guns - those who have guns or those who do not ?

Sure there are ways other than guns to kill people but few of them would necessitate 'painting targets' on anyone.

Another passing thought. Australia restricted gun ownership a couple of decades ago.
Homicides per 100,000 population are a tiny fraction of those in the USA.

But I guess we are digressing .......
 
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