Gifts - Tongues and the Interpretation of Tongues

[FancyNancy]

We do have a verse that says tongues will cease. When do you think that will happen? And why?

Tongues and ALL the gifts of the Holy Spirit will cease when the Church---to whom they are given for a purpose, which is to help her to become more effective and successful in building the Kingdom---is complete, and that occurs when the Bridegroom comes for her to make her His wife, having reached her fullness according to God's measure and plan.

Until that moment in time, we are still in the Lord's building program and we need every gift/tool available to build the Kingdom well.

 

[Stephen63]

The world teaches theory as fact. So do you.

Just another unsupported accusation.

OK, let's keep this simple, shall we? You say these gifts ceased in 70 AD. Prove it..... put up or shut up.

 

[Gr8grace]

Tongues and ALL the gifts of the Holy Spirit will cease when the Church---to whom they are given for a purpose, which is to help her to become more effective and successful in building the Kingdom---is complete, and that occurs when the Bridegroom comes for her to make her His wife, having reached her fullness according to God's measure and plan.

Until that moment in time, we are still in the Lord's building program and we need every gift/tool available to build the Kingdom well.

Do you have verses to support this conclusion?

 

[Ella85]

I guess you think the whole word of God that records this event in the life of a Christian is also foolish. I am pleased to be considered a fool for Christ!

Your judgment is a stone of stumbling for yourself and others.

Actually I am the one who is following exactly what scripture says, that it has ceased. It's very clear.

 

[Yonah]

Jas 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.



I quoted this text because I believe all good things COME from Him, the text doesn't say came, the idea that the gifts of the Spirit would cease when man needs them most (the last days) to me is counter productive to the salvation of mankind at a time when the enemy of our souls is at work even harder then before (so it seems to me) to lead people away from the source of life, as with any good thing, satan has a counterfeit for it, in this case (tongues) there is no exception, the enemy of our souls works through the emotions of mankind to mislead him and slowly turn his path away from the truth, he counts on many not even reading the word and even fewer studying it, once one is deceived he is used to bring reproach upon the cause of truth and the very character of our beloved Savior,
however those who prayerfully read and study, cannot easily be deceived by false interpretation os misapplication of any "gift" the Spirit chooses when to speak through others and it is always for the edifycation of the body , never for personal interpretation or gain, the scripture itself is abundantly clear on the proper administration of the gift of tongues and it is our responsibility as believers to know and understand what that is, we need not be deceived by man or the enemy, all we need do is found in Proverbs 3:5-6 the gift of tongues is given today, as is all the other gifts mentioned in scripture, its just that (it seems) tongues is the one most misunderstood and misapplied, never misused, it cannot be misused because if it be the true gift of tongues it will ALWAYS be according to the word (not some other way) so if one speaks in tongues (unless in private prayer) and even then they themselves have some understanding of what is being said , it is a counterfeit and the true manifestation of the Spirit is never really experienced by those sincerely seeking it, How sad, so rather than debate the issue of it, simply be educated in the proper manifestation of it and there need not be anyone who is deceived. shalom...

 

[Stephen63]

Hey, all you readers out there,
Have you ever wondered WHY naysayers come out of the woodwork on any subject on the gifts of the Spirit? There are a few reasons:

1. Those christians that are led by the Spirit are Satan's biggest threat.
2 Corinthians 10:4-6 (NASB) [SUP]4 [/SUP]for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. [SUP]5 [/SUP][1] We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, [SUP]6 [/SUP]and [2] we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete.

[1] Walking in the Holy Spirit destroys everything that raises up against the knowledge of God. It exposes heresy & the false teachers that spread it. It exposes those living false lives, like Ananias & Sapphira. It exposes evil spirits oppressing & possessing people & brings deliverance to those held captive. Such anointing enables the christian to preach the gospel & teach sound doctrine. The church is powerless without the Holy Spirit's leading & empowerment.
[2] Paul tell this church that when they obey the Word & the Spirit, he then can come in & punish those that rebel, even to the point of excommunication.
2. Anyone who lives a true christian life knows that the Devil will try to destroy that which is the most valuable to God & the church.
If you were in a war to win, what would you do? The best war strategists will tell you that if you can stop these two things, you can win the war:
A) Cut off food & supplies from your enemy. Starve them to death. If Satan could spiritually starve the church to death, he's won. So what does he do? Add to the Word heresy, or twist its meaning, & the Word is useless to nourish the church.
Mark 7:9-13 (KJV) [SUP]9 [/SUP]And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: [SUP]11 [/SUP]But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. [SUP]12 [/SUP]And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; [SUP]13 [/SUP]Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
B) Cut off / destroy the enemy's weapons. Ammo dumps, airfields, aircraft carriers, etc. Satan feeds the church all kinds of lies through his false prophets (speakers, writers) to convince them that the Gifts of the Spirit are no longer around, that the canon is all we need. What happens? Knowledge puffeth up the church, & they believed they've arrived. The world points out such people, calling them self-righteous bigots, hypocrites, stuff-shirts, etc. These "christians" become the sinner's biggest excuse for NOT going to church!

Being "puffed up" on knowledge, such "christians" will not produce good works that exemplify Christ. They become legalists, believing what they know without evidence of true faith will save them.
James 2:14-17 (KJV) [SUP]14 [/SUP]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? [SUP]15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, [SUP]16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Luke 6:46-49 (KJV) [SUP]46 [/SUP]And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? [SUP]47 [/SUP]Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: [SUP]48 [/SUP]He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. [SUP]49 [/SUP]But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

These are the reasons why the conflicts in the Bible Study Forum about the Gifts of the Spirit are so heated..... Satan hates the truth.

 

[Stephen63]

The number of Pentecostals in the world today is really very small. They just think they are big.

How is it that you would DARE tell a bare-faced lie? Anyone can google that & find the truth.

Yeah, you just destroyed any influence you might have had on this forum. Thank you for showing your true fruit.
Matthew 7:15-20 (KJV) [SUP]15 [/SUP]Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

 

[kennethcadwell]

You cut and paste but you do not comprehend. Of course as a baptismal regenerationist you have a vested interest in confusing Holy Spirit baptism and water baptism.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I understand just fine which is why I posted the true definition of those Greek words, and they both mean to be dipped and immersed. Bapto though is in reference to that of like being dyed a color, and Babtizo is in reference to being immersed in water. Babtizo is what is used in Matthew 28:19 and Mark 16:16 which is where it is commanded by the Lord.

Those two verses are not referring to Holy Spirit baptism but by being water immersed in Jesus name. Apostle Peter uses this same baptizo in Acts 2:38 and shows how this baptism by water is done here before the receiving of the Holy Spirit.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Actually I am the one who is following exactly what scripture says, that it has ceased. It's very clear.

It only states that by those who have taught a miss-teaching of 1 Corinthians 13, as this is the only place a person can see the word cease along with tongues being used.

However the part that people get this from is verse 10 where it says that which is perfect comes that which is done in part will be done away. The problem is that people interject the finished bible as that which perfect into this scripture, but the true fact is that the whole context of this chapter is about love.

That which is perfect comes by the rest of the passage can only refer to when perfect love comes into the world, and that will not take place tell after all is fulfilled and the New Jerusalem comes down on the New Earth. Once verse taken out of context to say something else besides love when the whole chapter is about love has created a very bad doctrine of denying the gifts of the Holy Spirit. The bible shows denying His gifts is a form of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit............

 

[FancyNancy]

Do you have verses to support this conclusion?

Absolutely. They are the same verses you distort to come to your own conclusions.

 

[FancyNancy]

Actually I am the one who is following exactly what scripture says, that it has ceased. It's very clear.

Yeah, clear as mud---to you. You are not following scripture. In fact you are in unbelief. It's your loss.

 

[FancyNancy]

Hey, all you readers out there,
Have you ever wondered WHY naysayers come out of the woodwork on any subject on the gifts of the Spirit? There are a few reasons:

1. Those christians that are led by the Spirit are Satan's biggest threat.
2 Corinthians 10:4-6 (NASB) [SUP]4 [/SUP]for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. [SUP]5 [/SUP][1] We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, [SUP]6 [/SUP]and [2] we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete.

[1] Walking in the Holy Spirit destroys everything that raises up against the knowledge of God. It exposes heresy & the false teachers that spread it. It exposes those living false lives, like Ananias & Sapphira. It exposes evil spirits oppressing & possessing people & brings deliverance to those held captive. Such anointing enables the christian to preach the gospel & teach sound doctrine. The church is powerless without the Holy Spirit's leading & empowerment.
[2] Paul tell this church that when they obey the Word & the Spirit, he then can come in & punish those that rebel, even to the point of excommunication.
2. Anyone who lives a true christian life knows that the Devil will try to destroy that which is the most valuable to God & the church.
If you were in a war to win, what would you do? The best war strategists will tell you that if you can stop these two things, you can win the war:
A) Cut off food & supplies from your enemy. Starve them to death. If Satan could spiritually starve the church to death, he's won. So what does he do? Add to the Word heresy, or twist its meaning, & the Word is useless to nourish the church.
Mark 7:9-13 (KJV) [SUP]9 [/SUP]And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: [SUP]11 [/SUP]But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. [SUP]12 [/SUP]And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; [SUP]13 [/SUP]Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
B) Cut off / destroy the enemy's weapons. Ammo dumps, airfields, aircraft carriers, etc. Satan feeds the church all kinds of lies through his false prophets (speakers, writers) to convince them that the Gifts of the Spirit are no longer around, that the canon is all we need. What happens? Knowledge puffeth up the church, & they believed they've arrived. The world points out such people, calling them self-righteous bigots, hypocrites, stuff-shirts, etc. These "christians" become the sinner's biggest excuse for NOT going to church!

Being "puffed up" on knowledge, such "christians" will not produce good works that exemplify Christ. They become legalists, believing what they know without evidence of true faith will save them.
James 2:14-17 (KJV) [SUP]14 [/SUP]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? [SUP]15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, [SUP]16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Luke 6:46-49 (KJV) [SUP]46 [/SUP]And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? [SUP]47 [/SUP]Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: [SUP]48 [/SUP]He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. [SUP]49 [/SUP]But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

These are the reasons why the conflicts in the Bible Study Forum about the Gifts of the Spirit are so heated..... Satan hates the truth.

Yes, the devil pounces on those who speak in tongues because it is the most visible of manifestations of the Holy Spirit. Why not try to desturb and try to destroy the use of it, so less people will experience the edification that God so desires to give His children? He is fearful of it and hates it, and finds it easy to dupe people by confusing them about it. What's sad is that far too many people are so easily duped.

 

[Gr8grace]

It only states that by those who have taught a miss-teaching of 1 Corinthians 13, as this is the only place a person can see the word cease along with tongues being used.

However the part that people get this from is verse 10 where it says that which is perfect comes that which is done in part will be done away. The problem is that people interject the finished bible as that which perfect into this scripture, but the true fact is that the whole context of this chapter is about love.

That which is perfect comes by the rest of the passage can only refer to when perfect love comes into the world, and that will not take place tell after all is fulfilled and the New Jerusalem comes down on the New Earth. Once verse taken out of context to say something else besides love when the whole chapter is about love has created a very bad doctrine of denying the gifts of the Holy Spirit. The bible shows denying His gifts is a form of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit............

This is where the original language comes in handy.......something that has already been "denied" in this thread.

Love~~Feminine gender in the Greek.

Christ,God~~Masculine Gender.


Perfect~~NEUTER gender........An Item......the completed Canon of scripture....complete.

1 Cor 13:10~~
New American Standard Bible
but when the perfect (neuter gender/an item/complete scriptures)comes, the partial will be done away.

 

[kennethcadwell]

This is where the original language comes in handy.......something that has already been "denied" in this thread.

Love~~Feminine gender in the Greek.

Christ,God~~Masculine Gender.


Perfect~~NEUTER gender........An Item......the completed Canon of scripture....complete.

1 Cor 13:10~~
New American Standard Bible
but when the perfect (neuter gender/an item/complete scriptures)comes, the partial will be done away.

Once again absolutely false to interject the completed bible where it does not belong.

The whole and I repeat the whole context of 1 Corinthians 13 is about love, which is why it is called the love chapter in the bible. To keep pulling one verse out of this whole chapter about love and having it refer to something else is completely wrong.

Apostle Paul says everything done without love is done in part, and where love is things will never fail.
Therefore that which is perfect comes that will do away with what is done in part can only refer to perfect love in the world, which does not exist yet. You can try and use the feminine, masculine, neutral explanation all you want but it still does not refer to the completed canon when the whole context is love.............

 

[RickyZ]

In 1 Cor 14 Paul talks about the difference between public and private tongues, ie Prophecy and 'prayer language'. A prophetic tongue requires interpretation and at the Pentecost event it was those who heard them speaking in their own languages who were the interpreters. But not all tongues in the Bible were so accompanied, nor does Paul ever say they have to be, unless they are public.

What would be the purpose of a tongue, as in the 'prayer language' meaning? Say you are praying for someone, but you don't know everything about their situation. If you knew all the details you could bring them to God, but you don't so you can't. But the Holy Spirit knows them. So if you allow the Holy Spirit to pray thru you, you may 'bring unspeakable things to light'. Likewise, suppose something's going down somewhere and the Holy Spirit needs someone to pray over it. You'd pray over it, if you knew, but how are you going to know? The Holy Spirit knows, and by allowing the Spirit to pray thru us we may intercede in things we know nothing about.

And then there's the origin of 'tongues'. As man's numbers grew after creation he had a single spiritual language. It was one of the few things he kept out of the fall, and it persisted until the tower of Babel (Gen 11:1 – 8). When the Messiah returns to restore all that man has lost, one of those things restored will be that pure singular spiritual language (Zeph 3:9). Christ has won the authority to restore all things, but has yet to return to this world to enforce it. Tongues are a way for us to access that future restored language now, thru the Holy Spirit, so that we may enforce His authority for Him.

Where it talks about tongues 'ceasing' (1 Cor 13:8-10 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.), it's not that the tongue will stop, but it will cease to be known as a tongue, because it will be instead our native language when Christ returns. At that point English (French German whatever) would be known as the tongue, since they would be the 'outsider' languages. Completeness is yet to come, perfection is yet to come, not in heaven but here on earth. And so the gifts end when Christ returns and bring completeness to us, because at that point they become moot. We won’t need the gift of healing anymore when nobody’s getting sick anymore.

Tongues are not necessary for salvation, nor should it be demanded as proof of Spiritual Baptism. As with all gifts of the Spirit, it is available to all but not required of any... although Paul wished that we all would do so, and God does talk about those who hide their lights under bushels (Mark 4:21, Matt 5:15, Luke 11:33), and bury their talents in the ground (Matt 25:14-28). And the gifts, while not required, are effective in helping produce the fruits of the Spirit that are required. Let me propose that again, the gifts of the Spirit are intended to help us produce the fruits of the Spirit. These include discerningly placed tongues.

Given a good thing, we humans will find some way to screw it up. We will over-use, over-sell, and over-the-top it. That's just our nature. That's when outsiders start thinking we're crazy, and that's where Paul tells some to put a leash on it.
Place and moderation are key to tongues being useful vs being foolish. And being foolish with God’s gifts is never a good idea.

And that includes denying them.

 

[Gr8grace]

Once again absolutely false to interject the completed bible where it does not belong.

The whole and I repeat the whole context of 1 Corinthians 13 is about love, which is why it is called the love chapter in the bible. To keep pulling one verse out of this whole chapter about love and having it refer to something else is completely wrong.

Apostle Paul says everything done without love is done in part, and where love is things will never fail.
Therefore that which is perfect comes that will do away with what is done in part can only refer to perfect love in the world, which does not exist yet. You can try and use the feminine, masculine, neutral explanation all you want but it still does not refer to the completed canon when the whole context is love.............

So genders of words mean nothing? We can call Christ "it" or"she?"

 

[FancyNancy]

This is where the original language comes in handy.......something that has already been "denied" in this thread.

Love~~Feminine gender in the Greek.

Christ,God~~Masculine Gender.


Perfect~~NEUTER gender........An Item......the completed Canon of scripture....complete.

1 Cor 13:10~~
New American Standard Bible
but when the perfect (neuter gender/an item/complete scriptures)comes, the partial will be done away.

Scripture says "That which is perfect", and "perfect" is really an adjective, and the neutral and masculine ending is the same. It is referring to that which is complete or of full age that is to come, which is referring to the completion of the Church age. If you must make it a noun, then that perfect thing is Jesus, Himself.

τέλειος
teleios
tel'-i-os
From G5056; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neuter (as noun, with G3588) completeness: - of full age, man, perfect.

 

[RickyZ]

Matthew 12 New International Version (NIV)[h=3]Jesus Is Lord of the Sabbath[/h]12 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. [SUP]2 [/SUP]When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”
[SUP]3 [/SUP]He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? [SUP]4 [/SUP]He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. [SUP]5 [/SUP]Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? [SUP]6 [/SUP]I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. [SUP]7 [/SUP]If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’[SUP][a][/SUP] you would not have condemned the innocent. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Going on from that place, he went into their synagogue, [SUP]10 [/SUP]and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to bring charges against Jesus, they asked him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”
[SUP]11 [/SUP]He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? [SUP]12 [/SUP]How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other. [SUP]14 [/SUP]But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus.
[h=3]God’s Chosen Servant[/h][SUP]15 [/SUP]Aware of this, Jesus withdrew from that place. A large crowd followed him, and he healed all who were ill. [SUP]16 [/SUP]He warned them not to tell others about him. [SUP]17 [/SUP]This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah:
[SUP]18 [/SUP]“Here is my servant whom I have chosen,
the one I love, in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will proclaim justice to the nations.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]He will not quarrel or cry out;
no one will hear his voice in the streets.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]A bruised reed he will not break,
and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out,
till he has brought justice through to victory.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] In his name the nations will put their hope.”[SUP][b][/SUP]

[h=3]Jesus and Beelzebul[/h][SUP]22 [/SUP]Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. [SUP]23 [/SUP]All the people were astonished and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”
[SUP]24 [/SUP]But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. [SUP]26 [/SUP]If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? [SUP]27 [/SUP]And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. [SUP]28 [/SUP]But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]“Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can plunder his house.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. [SUP]31 [/SUP]And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. [SUP]32 [/SUP]Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.



Man, I know a lot of the gifts are faked, but I would think LONG AND HARD before I would deny them all outright.

 

[kennethcadwell]

So genders of words mean nothing? We can call Christ "it" or"she?"

What means nothing is the fact of the false teaching to interject something other than what the "whole" chapter is about !!!


If verses 1-9 and 11-13 refer to love, then verse 10 does to.
You can not take and place another item in this chapter when the whole chapter is about walking and doing things in love, and how all things will fail or will be done for nothing without love. Even if a person reads the bible but does not do it in love for God then their reading and study will be unfruitful.

This chapter is called the love chapter for a reason, because it is the whole entire context of what is being spoken of !!!

 

[Gr8grace]

Scripture says "That which is perfect", and "perfect" is really an adjective, and the neutral and masculine ending is the same. It is referring to that which is complete or of full age that is to come, which is referring to the completion of the Church age. If you must make it a noun, then that perfect thing is Jesus, Himself.

τέλειος
teleios
tel'-i-os
From G5056; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neuter (as noun, with G3588) completeness: - of full age, man, perfect.

Thank you fancy. This is how we should discuss things.