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The problem today is we have a Greek mind-set. We will say something like “we love you Lord” but then turn around and do something contradicting what we said. A perfect example is the fact that we all state we are Christian but it is one big CC brawl about scripture every day. This is contradicting scripture 
The Hebrew mind-set is “For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son” or “if you love me keep my commandments”. There is an action attached to the statement.
Jesus was a Jew. His Jewish (Hebrew) name is Yeshua. The action used in His name is Salvation. That is why I like to use the name Yeshua. If I tell you about Yeshua I tell you about Salvation. If you want to be politically correct you should name Jesus, Salvation because that is His English translated name...
The Hebrew mind-set is “For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son” or “if you love me keep my commandments”. There is an action attached to the statement.
Jesus was a Jew. His Jewish (Hebrew) name is Yeshua. The action used in His name is Salvation. That is why I like to use the name Yeshua. If I tell you about Yeshua I tell you about Salvation. If you want to be politically correct you should name Jesus, Salvation because that is His English translated name...
And the Hebrew mindset isn't "God so loved the world." If that was the Hebrew mindset, they'd be Christians, not Jews.
Yes, Jesus was a Jew. His followers aren't.
So, who is going all PC now?
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[SUP] Acts 4:7-13
[/SUP]"And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,
If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus."
Jesus. That's the name in English. Why would I change it? Nearly every English speaker knows who that is. Why would a person create confusion?
Philippians 2:10
"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth."
[/SUP]"And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,
If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus."
Jesus. That's the name in English. Why would I change it? Nearly every English speaker knows who that is. Why would a person create confusion?
Philippians 2:10
"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth."
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Phil, if the name Yeshua makes you uncomfortable I apologise for that. I like to use the name for the reasons given and I will continue using it in future.
There was no man with the name Jesus in the OT but the OT was written in Hebrew just saying... But Jesus are all over in the OT as Yeshua and also the Son of God. I am not going to argue over this.
If you have a mental block about a name it is up to you to sort it out
There was no man with the name Jesus in the OT but the OT was written in Hebrew
just saying... But Jesus are all over in the OT as Yeshua and also the Son of God. I am not going to argue over this.If you have a mental block about a name it is up to you to sort it out
If you simply went back to the Greek it would read Iesous. Go back a few hundred years and the letter J was not in our English language or our English Bibles. Point is the name Jesus hasn't been around that long, but Iesous and the Aramaic Yeshua have. But to make one thing clear, when we call on his name...it isn't referring to a dialect or spelling or translation or transliteration.....it is referring to the person of Jesus/Yeshua the Christ/Messiah. Hope you are blessed brother
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Yes Hebrew is a functional language whereas our language is more abstract.
I like food. Abstract.
Pizza is cheesy and when topped with Pepperoni the flavor of the sauce is drawn out. Tastes good. I like it. Concrete.
Depends on what words you use.
Abram = father, exalted father
Abraham = father of many
Hebrew and English.
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I call the Lord many different names... He calls us by many different names (Bride, daughter, son, sheep, child, friend, etc.), too. I have a variety of nicknames for my kids & grandkids, as they do for me (Mother, Mom, Ma, Maw, Mama, Mommy, Mami, Grandmommy, Grandmom, etc.).
For me, it just comes natural to address God by what I feel for Him in my heart. ♥
For me, it just comes natural to address God by what I feel for Him in my heart. ♥
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How do you know what language people grew up with? I live in South Philly, half my neighbors grew up here, and they didn't grow up using English at home. (At school, but not at home.) My direct neighbors are mostly Italian. Down the street a mile away, the home language was Yiddish. So, honestly, how do you get bent out of shape when people from different nations are on this board who may well not have grown up speaking English or American? Even in America, I know many who never learned American. (Lots of fun talking to them, since I don't know Italian nor Yiddish. But we can get what we needed to say said anyway. My neighbor only speaks Italian, but she loves her garden. She gave me blue flowers to plant in my garden, because she saw I'd like them. She also thought I was nuts when I offered her pumpkin flowers. She told me how to cook them, but I can't take that much oil. All that and neither one of us understood a word the other one said. lol)
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The problem today is we have a Greek mind-set. We will say something like “we love you Lord” but then turn around and do something contradicting what we said. A perfect example is the fact that we all state we are Christian but it is one big CC brawl about scripture every day. This is contradicting scripture
The reasoning here leaves something to be desired. If we have to use grandiose thought processes in order to prefer one language's rendering of Christ's name over another -- and forgive me for this, Gandalf, but that is what you've done here -- then perhaps there is a more base reason we like the name. Maybe we do think it makes us sound "more spiritual" or educated? In your case, I doubt it. That doesn't fit your personality, form what I've seen.
But please realize that "No," "Nyet," "žádná," "nein," "tsis," "לא,"and 没有 all express the exact same thought in English, Rusian, Czech, German, Homong, Hebrew, and Chinese. In the same way, "Jesus," "Иисус," "Ježíš," "Yexus," "ישו," and "耶稣" identify the same Son of God.
Jesus was also the Son of God, universal, unlimited by language, culture, personality, identity, or lineage. He is the name the one who believes in Him has learned to call Him.
That's true in any language. We get "Jesus" from the Greek iesouß (Iesous) which is nothing more than the Greek rendering of the Hebrew h[wXy (yeshuw'ah). It means "Jehovah is salvation" in the Greek just as it does in the Hebrew. The other languages have done the same, rendering the thought behind His name in their own syntax.
It doesn't make any difference if you use h[wXy, Jesus, Иисус, Ježíš, Yexus, ישו, or 耶稣f. You speak "salvation" in every one of those names. If that's really the reason you use "Yeshua" then you are just as guilty of compromising His name as you seem to think everyone who uses one of those renderings does, because that is nothing more than a transliteration of the Hebrew h[wXy which is actually accurately rendered yeshuw'ah in English. The word as Jesus actually wrote it would be h[wXy .
If you want to use "Yeshua" go ahead. You don't have to make excuses. You also don't have to develop a chip for your shoulder about using it.
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One of my old friends, a mighty man in God was Mich. He was born a Catholic Lebanese, but chose to move to America after that war destroyed his country -- especially after the war. He was saved in the bigger sense of that word, by the time I knew him. He liked Michel, but understood American discomfort with the name, so called himself Mich.
Funny thing about my local church. Mich was a ruling elder. So are Merion and Carrol. All men. lol (Loraine Boettner is one of our more famous writers. I sometimes wonder if being born with a "girl's name" makes you ready for our denomination ahead of time. lol)
Funny thing about my local church. Mich was a ruling elder. So are Merion and Carrol. All men. lol (Loraine Boettner is one of our more famous writers. I sometimes wonder if being born with a "girl's name" makes you ready for our denomination ahead of time. lol)