Syrian Refugees. Bonafide or a plot?

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Jihadi invaders prey on Western compassion

Although this comes as a commentary, many in the West are beginning to wonder if they are being duped.

 

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Jihadi invaders prey on Western compassion

Although this comes as a commentary, many in the West are beginning to wonder if they are being duped.

The supposed concept of Hirjah...

It is to emigrate for the cause of Allah, as described here in the Quran:

“And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many locations and abundance.”

“And whoever leaves his home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah. And Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful” (Quran 4:100).

 

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The supposed concept of Hirjah...

It is to emigrate for the cause of Allah, as described here in the Quran:

“And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many locations and abundance.”

“And whoever leaves his home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah. And Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful” (Quran 4:100).

Some of them (many of them?) are surely fighters of ISIS and another jihadist groups.

 

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Some of them (many of them?) are surely fighters of ISIS and another jihadist groups.

How would you respond to this claim in the article?

"Vladimir Putin is right, for once. He has placed the blame squarely on the U.S. for the refugee crisis in Europe.

He is 100 percent right because the U.S. under Obama has supported the destabilization across the Middle East – the toppling of one regime after another that left chaos in its wake.

These refugees flooding Europe are not completely what they seem. These aren’t the huddled masses that came to the United States seeking a better life. This is a plot of Syrian invasion. They’re so intent on jihad that they are willing to shove their own people out of their borders so that they can send among them jihadist invaders.

You will notice one key trait in these refugees, though. Almost none, if any of them, are Christians. Christians are not allowed to flee. They can’t even leave their hiding places to escape to a camp seeking to leave the hostile countries."

 

[Omni]

Jihadi invaders prey on Western compassion

Although this comes as a commentary, many in the West are beginning to wonder if they are being duped.

This is patently absurd.

 

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This is patently absurd.

Mind to comment/elaborate? I'm only wondering about the view of the article.

 

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Muslim migrants go Christian to win asylum

Oh yeah, I believe in Al ..uh Jesus, yes him.

 

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ISIS smuggler: ‘We will use refugee crisis to infiltrate West’

Bleeding hearts beware?

 

[Omni]

Mind to comment/elaborate? I'm only wondering about the view of the article.

Okay, here's my view on the article. The writer of the article is an idiot; she's an idiot who's trying to fan a big, bright, hot, idiot flame that all the other idiots will watch with awe -- awe, like the first cavemen stumbling across fire. it's great for her hit-count. And, now that the idiots know where the big, bright idiot fire is, they'll connect again next week, when her article will be even more inflammatory than it was yesterday. Because, here's the thing: cavemen don't care if the fire burns down the forest. They just like how pretty the flames look.

 

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Okay, here's my view on the article. The writer of the article is an idiot; she's an idiot who's trying to fan a big, bright, hot, idiot flame that all the other idiots will watch with awe -- awe, like the first cavemen stumbling across fire. it's great for her hit-count. And, now that the idiots know where the big, bright idiot fire is, they'll connect again next week, when her article will be even more inflammatory than it was yesterday. Because, here's the thing: cavemen don't care if the fire burns down the forest. They just like how pretty the flames look.

Umm, a few specifics might help lest we look like cavemen

 

[zoii]

I have no idea if any of those seeking refuge are religously radicalised - I'd say probably. However, these people swarming into Europe have faced death and endless misery. Most have lost family/friends. All have lost their home, their future. Parents fear for the future of their children and for themselves. That they lost everything was no fault of their own but was pushed onto them by warring factions within Syria.

What parent wouldnt want to get their family to safety. What person wouldnt appeal to countries who are safe and offer hope.

What country could see the tide of human misery and turn their back. Are we compassionate or not?

 

[tanach]

I strongly agree with the idea these people are not what they seem. Where are they getting the money to pay the so called
people smugglers if they are destitute. I have yet to see any explanation to this question.

 

[zoii]

I strongly agree with the idea these people are not what they seem. Where are they getting the money to pay the so called
people smugglers if they are destitute. I have yet to see any explanation to this question.

The explanation is this - Islamic State holds almost 80% of Syria now. many, especially Christians, no longer have any hopes there - they are in danger...they have grabbed what even savings they had, sold what they could and fled. Would you do any different?... or would you allow your children to await the justice of Islamic State.?

 

[FreeNChrist]

Okay, here's my view on the article. The writer of the article is an idiot; she's an idiot who's trying to fan a big, bright, hot, idiot flame that all the other idiots will watch with awe -- awe, like the first cavemen stumbling across fire. it's great for her hit-count. And, now that the idiots know where the big, bright idiot fire is, they'll connect again next week, when her article will be even more inflammatory than it was yesterday. Because, here's the thing: cavemen don't care if the fire burns down the forest. They just like how pretty the flames look.

Thank you for that well thought out and factually referenced rebuttal.

 

[Omni]

Typical. A slew of children die on beaches, two hundred thousand refugees (half of them children) land all across Europe after months of IS killing, maiming and pillaging. These people come broken, injured, sick, hungry, angry, destitute, and the first thing you extreme right, American, over-patriotic conspiratorials want to do is label them Jihadis who're tying to take over Europe.

How callous can you be? Have some compassion.

 

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The explanation is this - Islamic State holds almost 80% of Syria now. many, especially Christians, no longer have any hopes there - they are in danger...they have grabbed what even savings they had, sold what they could and fled. Would you do any different?... or would you allow your children to await the justice of Islamic State.?

If almost 80% of Syria is controlled by Islamic State it follows that the same percentage of Banks are also controlled by them.
so unless Islamic State is allowing them to take out savings where are they getting their cash from? I also notice from news footage that many of those leaving are young healthy men who look more like economic migrants than persecuted refugees As to your question about what I would do in their situation. The answer is I don't know because I do not have thousands of pounds to pay the alleged people traffickers. Apart from that I cant imagine France welcoming me with open arms.

 

[Omni]

If almost 80% of Syria is controlled by Islamic State it follows that the same percentage of Banks are also controlled by them.

Because what, Islamic state members have finance degrees? That's laughable. These are guys who blow up national heritage sites and treat Western capitalism with extreme prejudice.

so unless Islamic State is allowing them to take out savings where are they getting their cash from?

Yea, Islamic State -- the guys who'll murder your kids and rape your wife, but at least they'll give you your savings.

I also notice from news footage that many of those leaving are young healthy men who look more like economic migrants than persecuted refugees

"Ex-wealthy". Hmm, isn't that sort of synonymous with "now-impoverished"?

As to your question about what I would do in their situation. The answer is I don't know because I do not have thousands of pounds to pay the alleged people traffickers.

Europe is a gigantic land mass. People have feet to walk, cars to drive, refugee trucks to climb aboard. Charities have set up camps and transports. I doubt two hundred thousand homeless people are paying for private jets.

Apart from that I cant imagine France welcoming me with open arms.

Really? Last time I checked, UK citizens have the right to reside in any country belonging to the EU.

 

[zoii]

If almost 80% of Syria is controlled by Islamic State it follows that the same percentage of Banks are also controlled by them.
so unless Islamic State is allowing them to take out savings where are they getting their cash from? I also notice from news footage that many of those leaving are young healthy men who look more like economic migrants than persecuted refugees As to your question about what I would do in their situation. The answer is I don't know because I do not have thousands of pounds to pay the alleged people traffickers. Apart from that I cant imagine France welcoming me with open arms.

The situation is that hundreds of thousands are on the move from Syria. Many fled to the northern border into Turkey and then have made their way by multiple means through eastern Europe and finally into western Europe. This is not a conspiracy of criminals taking advantage of cashed up Syrian refugees. These are desperate people who are disposed making their way out of a nightmare

 

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Typical. A slew of children die on beaches, two hundred thousand refugees (half of them children) land all across Europe after months of IS killing, maiming and pillaging. These people come broken, injured, sick, hungry, angry, destitute, and the first thing you extreme right, American, over-patriotic conspiratorials want to do is label them Jihadis who're tying to take over Europe.

How callous can you be? Have some compassion.

Ha ha. Callous Americans? Seems like we took in plenty of Irish, and other nationalities. How about a little integration on Ireland's part for a change?...and I don't mean only Europeans.

 

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The situation is that hundreds of thousands are on the move from Syria. Many fled to the northern border into Turkey and then have made their way by multiple means through eastern Europe and finally into western Europe. This is not a conspiracy of criminals taking advantage of cashed up Syrian refugees. These are desperate people who are disposed making their way out of a nightmare

Why not into Iran, Africa, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan etc.? Why place the guilt on Europe and America?