The Law Debacle Resolved

[Kefa54]

Don't give credit to me. It is all Jesus and the Holy Spirit in me.

I do have to give you some credit because even though you have disagreed you have stayed civil and respectful unless I missed something............lol

 

[zzz98]

I say good call on Gr8grace's part. Discerning of spirits is not the kind of judgment that scripture warns against.

I thought the OSAS believers say there is no more sin. Following this logic, how can Gr8grace admit that KennethC is a saved, moral man, yet doing EVIL? Makes no sense

 

[KennethC]

I thought the OSAS believers say there is no more sin. Following this logic, how can Gr8grace admit that KennethC is a saved, moral man, yet doing EVIL? Makes no sense

Yeah that is what makes no sense as they say there is no condemnation to those in Christ, and we will always be saved no matter what, but then turn around and condemn others who are in Christ. Disputing and refuting their own belief system !!!

 

[KennethC]

Don't give credit to me. It is all Jesus and the Holy Spirit in me.

Yes I know as I do the same, always give credit to God and His Holy Spirit, but yet somehow by doing that some get the impression I speak on self. Go figure !!!

Giving God and the Holy Spirit credit is self-righteous, no wonder we are in the falling away of the Church when people think this way.

 

[crossnote]

I thought the OSAS believers say there is no more sin. Following this logic, how can Gr8grace admit that KennethC is a saved, moral man, yet doing EVIL? Makes no sense

Simple. That's not what the OSAS'ers say.
You are running on false assumptions.

 

[Kefa54]

Not to me. I'm better looking.

Yes I know as I do the same, always give credit to God and His Holy Spirit, but yet somehow by doing that some get the impression I speak on self. Go figure !!!

Giving God and the Holy Spirit credit is self-righteous, no wonder we are in the falling away of the Church when people think this way.

 

[KennethC]

Not to me. I'm better looking.

Must be something........................LOL

 

[Kefa54]

Must be something........................LOL

 

[zzz98]

Simple. That's not what the OSAS'ers say.
You are running on false assumptions.

Nice dodge! Why is kennethc being accused of evil is the question. I think that is absurd

 

[Utah]

I thought the OSAS believers say there is no more sin.

Show posts supporting your claim.

 

[Utah]

Yeah that is what makes no sense as they say there is no condemnation to those in Christ, and we will always be saved no matter what, but then turn around and condemn others who are in Christ. Disputing and refuting their own belief system !!!

So your works save you. Got it!

 

[Utah]

Simple. That's not what the OSAS'ers say.
You are running on false assumptions.

He enjoys false assumptions.

I called him out on one in a different thread and the only ones responding are the crickets.

 

[crossnote]

Nice dodge! Why is kennethc being accused of evil is the question. I think that is absurd

Ask his accusers. I have him on ignore.

 

[KennethC]

So your works save you. Got it!

Nowhere in what I said says this, so what are you getting at or are you just trying to cause strife ???

Please calm down as this is not the fruit of the Spirit, and take a deep breath and all will be okay............

 

[KennethC]

Nice dodge! Why is kennethc being accused of evil is the question. I think that is absurd

Makes no since to me, as everything that has been claimed about me has been false allegations !!!

 

[Utah]

Nowhere in what I said says this, so what are you getting at or are you just trying to cause strife ???

Please calm down as this is not the fruit of the Spirit, and take a deep breath and all will be okay............

Everything you say reverts back to works. Every single thing.

If faith isn't good enough, then obviously works is needed. Thank God Jesus says otherwise.

 

[KennethC]

Everything you say reverts back to works. Every single thing.

If faith isn't good enough, then obviously works is needed. Thank God Jesus says otherwise.

A true faith has works as they come from the Holy Spirit that abides in us, there is nothing taught in the Word of God that says or shows the Holy Spirit can abide in a person and there be no proof of it.

And again I will repeat I have never said works save, never, never, never, never, do I need to keep going or has it sunk in yet ???

Works are proof of a true saving faith in Christ, not what does the saving !!!

 

[zzz98]

He enjoys false assumptions.

I called him out on one in a different thread and the only ones responding are the crickets.

What did you call me out on and why are you assuming my silence means I read it?? Gossip much?

 

[JaumeJ]

It happens a lot. A person, such as I, says he understands we are to b e children of obedience, and along comes a barrage of people who cannot read or see, and they say, "You are under the law." The truth is, the curse of the law, death, was ablished on the cross with our Lord, therefore we know we no longer need fear the law for it has not power. Now we may read and understand the wisdom of Jesus Christ concerning the law. Now we may read the law and understand without fear of condemnation for the Holy Spirit has opened not only our eyes, but our minds, hearts and souls to the wisdom of the law, while understanding where mercy trumps it. The laws that can no longer be followed become quite obvious. Listen to Jesus, then read the law; you will find he has completed the Temple, Sacrificial, Diet, the unjust, and teh merciless Laws.

Our talent of gold must earn interest at least. If you are blessed to be a good businessman, then you may make a whopping gain on the market. If so, you have great reward in Heaven. God bless all in Jesus Christ, amen...

Nice dodge! Why is kennethc being accused of evil is the question. I think that is absurd

 

[JaumeJ]

Family in Jesus, please forgive this post to the wrong post. This is in response to a petition for the reason someone believes he is being classified as "under the law," and not under grace.

It happens a lot. A person, such as I, says he understands we are to b e children of obedience, and along comes a barrage of people who cannot read or see, and they say, "You are under the law." The truth is, the curse of the law, death, was ablished on the cross with our Lord, therefore we know we no longer need fear the law for it has not power. Now we may read and understand the wisdom of Jesus Christ concerning the law. Now we may read the law and understand without fear of condemnation for the Holy Spirit has opened not only our eyes, but our minds, hearts and souls to the wisdom of the law, while understanding where mercy trumps it. The laws that can no longer be followed become quite obvious. Listen to Jesus, then read the law; you will find he has completed the Temple, Sacrificial, Diet, the unjust, and teh merciless Laws. Sorry zzzzzz

Our talent of gold must earn interest at least. If you are blessed to be a good businessman, then you may make a whopping gain on the market. If so, you have great reward in Heaven. God bless all in Jesus Christ, amen...