The Trump Phenomenon: Dry Run for the Antichrist

[Bookends]

Wow. The man hasn't even won the primary and people already have judged his soul calling him the antichrist. Well ain't that just Christian. Why would trump ever have to stand before the judgement seat when CCers already did Gods job for him?

Yah, no better then the Pope, huh?

 

[planitsoon]

As usual, Dispensationalism equals Specutology and many suffer from ED, named after the capt'n of the Titanic..

EndTime Dysfunction.

 

[Bookends]

riiiiight. because Mexico just has so much money. and if you shout loudly enough you get your way.

Trump will likely get the R nomination. but i doubt - at least i hope - that America writ large is stupid enough to let him win the presidency though. this is the conservative party throwing their legitimacy away.

I'd rather have fast and quick death then a slow and painful one. Sanders or Clinton are no better if nowt worse, the country deserves what they get. I don't believe in "THEE anti-Christ" but do believe in the judgment of God on a nation that was founded more or less on His principles. Our government is a reflection of the over all spiritual/morality of the nation. Trump is over-reaction to Obama, an over pendulum swing. My main issue is governments job per Romans 13, to protect the people and to punish the evildoers and I think Trump means what he says. Sanders or Clinton won't protect this nation.

 

[Bookends]

As usual, Dispensationalism equals Specutology and many suffer from ED, named after the capt'n of the Titanic..

EndTime Dysfunction.

The OPer is not dispensationalist, but amillennial futurist.

 

[Bookends]

while i agree that obama is wicked and has been a disaster for this country...2 thessalonians 2:3 connects the coming of the man of lawlessness with 'the apostasy'...and as i pointed out earlier in this thread obama never did fool any particularly large percentage of evangelical christians...he only attracted those who were already lost...

What if, Paul really meant to write that letter to Thessalonica and the people who lived in that era, dealing events pertaining to that time?

 

[Bookends]

i suggest you try actually reading my essay...in it you will find this...



i guess someone had to deliberately misunderstand anyway...

as for 'judging his soul'...i am not going to let some kind of religious political correctness prevent me from carrying out my christian responsibility of identifying and pointing out wolves in sheep's clothing...

Wolves in sheep's clothing is a reference to so called "spiritual leaders" leading the Church astray, not a secular nation. Joseph Smith would fit this bill. However, just by Trumps words and actions I wouldn't consider Him a Christian, that goes for Clinton and Obama too. That said, I know it's not my job to render the final verdict on one's spiritual position.

 

[didymos]

Secularists certainly have no love for islam the two arent even comparable

But they still have a common cause, to destroy christendom.

 

[Bookends]

so merely because they have caused pain and death we get to cause pain to them?

this is a 'christian' response? really?

Not a Christian response no, but it's a government response in whom God ordains to deal with the evil doers.

Was it a Christian response of the RCC and Protestant movements (Luther and Calvin) to support the persecutions and killing of the ana-baptists, killed for their believe in believer's baptistism? So before you bash Christians for supporting Trump, just look back and see what the reformers did (except the ana-baptists).

It's not the Church's job to deal with wars of flesh and blood, but to war against the principalities of the air, our job is to fight against evil by prayer and preaching of the gospel.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

But they still have a common cause, to destroy christendom.

Yup, but that's okay because they pretty much only end up destroying their own societies. They dig a pit for us, they lay a snare, and then they fall into it themselves.

Psalm 57:5-6

[SUP]5 [/SUP]Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens; let thy glory be above all the earth.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]They have prepared a net for my steps; my soul is bowed down: they have digged a pit before me, into the midst whereof they are fallen themselves. Selah.

 

[Bookends]

Quote "so merely because they have caused pain and death we get to cause pain to them?this is a 'christian' response? really?"

1 Samuel - 'Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.

Since then God has told us not to fight in this manner. God had a purpose in wiping out these people and those prior who lived in Canaan. It represents the spiritual war Christians are involved with today.

 

[didymos]

Yup, but that's okay because they pretty much only end up destroying their own societies. They dig a pit for us, they lay a snare, and then they fall into it themselves.

Psalm 57:5-6

[SUP]5 [/SUP]Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens; let thy glory be above all the earth.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]They have prepared a net for my steps; my soul is bowed down: they have digged a pit before me, into the midst whereof they are fallen themselves. Selah.

True, the Psalms are full of laments like these, but in the end they always glorify God and His righteousness.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Not sure if this has already been said but... the antichrist doesn't need a dry run. All he needs is permission from God just like when he went after Job.

 

[Mitspa]

Not sure if this has already been said but... the antichrist doesn't need a dry run. All he needs is permission from God just like when he went after Job.

These Trump haters, have gone off the deep end ..because he dares to break the PC rules.

 

[notuptome]

Didn't the same accusation come forth about the current president?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[wisebeardman]

Didn't the same accusation come forth about the current president?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

And Bush before him, and Clinton before him, and Bush before him. and so on and so on.

 

[Mitspa]

Didn't the same accusation come forth about the current president?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Yep..typical charge made by many loons that claim to be Christians .. you cant take people like this serious

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Didn't the same accusation come forth about the current president?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

As long as I been alive this claim is always made about the president. Lol at this point it's become something of a tradition.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

The OPer is not dispensationalist, but amillennial futurist.

actually amillennial historicist with idealist leanings...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

What if, Paul really meant to write that letter to Thessalonica and the people who lived in that era, dealing events pertaining to that time?

i don't believe that to be the proper interpretation of that scripture passage...

however even if that -were- the case...it would still reveal trump to be a threat to the church as a throwback to a first century apostasy...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Wolves in sheep's clothing is a reference to so called "spiritual leaders" leading the Church astray, not a secular nation. Joseph Smith would fit this bill. However, just by Trumps words and actions I wouldn't consider Him a Christian, that goes for Clinton and Obama too. That said, I know it's not my job to render the final verdict on one's spiritual position.

trump -is- leading the church astray...he is deceiving evangelical 'christians' who should know better into supporting him even when his words and actions are contrary to christ...moreover he is leading evangelicals into obviously unchristian behavior themselves...