The Trump Phenomenon: Dry Run for the Antichrist

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RachelBibleStudent

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Bookends said:
Not a Christian response no, but it's a government response in whom God ordains to deal with the evil doers.
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when the bible refers to governments dealing with evil doers...it is usually talking about killing them...not about capturing them and subjecting them to gratuitous pain with no reasonable objective...
 
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zeroturbulence said:
Not sure if this has already been said but... the antichrist doesn't need a dry run. All he needs is permission from God just like when he went after Job.
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i addressed the logic of the antichrist having a 'dry run' in my essay...

unlike God satan is of course not an omniscient actor... his schemes to deceive christians into apostasy...no matter how well laid out...must be understood by him to be subject to possible failure due to unforeseen or underestimated factors... therefore it would be only logical for him to first undertake one or more 'dry runs' to determine if his plans to deceive christians and lead the church into apostasy are ironclad enough to guarantee success...
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maybe this is why so many 'antichrists' have already come...instead of satan just pooling all of his resources into a single effort...
 
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notuptome said:
Didn't the same accusation come forth about the current president?

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no...because the accusation you are thinking of is -not- the one being made...

see my original post...

the purpose of this thread...in case anyone deliberately misunderstands...has not been to argue that donald trump is the antichrist...
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Mitspa said:
Yep..typical charge made by many loons that claim to be Christians .. you cant take people like this serious
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you can't take people who still repeat the same blatant 'straw man' argument even after being corrected seriously either...
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
As long as I been alive this claim is always made about the president. Lol at this point it's become something of a tradition.
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please note that in my original post i specifically -disavow- any suggestion of entering into that 'tradition'...

the purpose of this thread...in case anyone deliberately misunderstands...has not been to argue that donald trump is the antichrist...
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This thread sounds like some of that Ellen g White insanity.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
So is do you think he is or not? It's one of those things where either he is or he isn't. There's no moderate antichrist.
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i thought i made it -quite clear- that i don't believe trump is the antichrist...i think he is a 'test balloon' showing that the real antichrist's success in leading christians into deception and apostasy will come easier than everyone thinks...including easier than i once thought...
 
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Mitspa said:
This thread sounds like some of that Ellen g White insanity.
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well we are seeing a pseudo christian cult blindly following a false christian in spite of a mountain of disqualifying information...
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
i thought i made it -quite clear- that i don't believe trump is the antichrist...i think he is a 'test balloon'...
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Lol well see you didn't make it clear, you make a claim that he is a moderate dry run antichrist and yet he is not. Kinda double-minded there. There is no test balloon. He is or he is isn't. If you think he isn't, then maybe you should have this thread locked and put away.
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
well we are seeing a pseudo christian cult blindly following a false christian in spite of a mountain of disqualifying information...
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Well that's debatable ..but the idea that Trump is the anti-Christ is just the same kind of religious paranoid spirit that drove Ellen g white ..
 
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Well that's debatable ..but the idea that Trump is the anti-Christ is just the same kind of religious paranoid spirit that drove Ellen g white ..
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Yea just proves they didn't read Daniel too closely.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
Lol well see you didn't make it clear, you make a claim that he is a moderate dry run antichrist and yet he is not. Kinda double-minded there. There is no test balloon. He is or he is isn't. If you think he isn't, then maybe you should have this thread locked and put away.
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this wasn't clear??

the purpose of this thread...in case anyone deliberately misunderstands...has not been to argue that donald trump is the antichrist...
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what would have been clearer? 'hey stupid if you think i'm saying trump is the antichrist then you're wrong'?

regarding 'test balloons' and 'dry runs' for the antichrist...1 john 2:18-19 indicates that many antichrists have come...we can safely assume that satan refines his plans based on the successes or failures of each one...
 
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Mitspa said:
Well that's debatable ..but the idea that Trump is the anti-Christ is just the same kind of religious paranoid spirit that drove Ellen g white ..
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for the last time...that idea is not being presented here...

anyway unlike ellen white i -correctly- predicted the future when i assumed that someone would deliberately misunderstand my thesis...but the predictability of the other side still does not make me a prophet...
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
this wasn't clear??



what would have been clearer? 'hey stupid if you think i'm saying trump is the antichrist then you're wrong'?

regarding 'test balloons' and 'dry runs' for the antichrist...1 john 2:18-19 indicates that many antichrists have come...we can safely assume that satan refines his plans based on the successes or failures of each one...
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See that's the problem of your premise. You assume the most illogical being in the cosmos operates logically.

A dry-run antichrist would still be an antichrist. So you can't be double-minded on this, either Trump is or he is not. Satan cannot contend against Satan it is written. So Trump is not the antichrist for wanting to crackdown on the pagans and to uplift the Christians, and for acknowledging that Jesus is the Christ and savior.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
See that's the problem of your premise. You assume the most illogical being in the cosmos operates logically.

A dry-run antichrist would still be an antichrist. So you can't be double-minded on this, either Trump is or he is not. Satan cannot contend against Satan it is written. So Trump is not the antichrist for wanting to crackdown on the pagans and to uplift the Christians, and for acknowledging that Jesus is the Christ and savior.
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read the beginning of job and the story of the temptation of christ and then try and tell me again that satan is thoroughly illogical...

and the problem with your premise is that you actually believe trump wants to crack down on heathens and uplift christians...as i showed in my essay trump doesn't even understand what a christian is...and if he wanted to crack down on heathenism he could start by closing down his own strip clubs...
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
read the beginning of job and the story of the temptation of christ and then try and tell me again that satan is thoroughly illogical...

and the problem with your premise is that you actually believe trump wants to crack down on heathens and uplift christians...as i showed in my essay trump doesn't even understand what a christian is...and if he wanted to crack down on heathenism he could start by closing down his own strip clubs...
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I've read both of those, indeed they both prove Satan is extremely illogical and can only lie. Kinda strange you would compliment the dragon though.

Your conspiracy theory is full of flaws and baseless accusations. The fact is Trump is the only one to call for cracking down on Islam, and stood strong to this despite enormous pressure. He is also the only one to call out the SDA cult for its absurdity as well. Trump is also the only candidate remaining to stand strong in defense of the Christians and to openly speak out against the softcore persecution of Christianity and get positive results.

Also once more I would note, you can only provide conspiracy theories about Trump, but you still have not provided a clear viable alternative to him after months.
 
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Trump is not a Republican or a conservative. He has always been a democratic liberal but he has just jumped on the conservative bandwagon to win the election
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This is what Blond calls a backhanded way to vote for a Democrat.....
 
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