Who are those of synagogue of Satan in Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9?

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To be specific it is probably the people that the Assyrian Sargon settled there after the deportation of Israel.

If you will read 2Kings 24-41.

"They feared the Lord, and served their own gods, after the manner of the nations whom they carried away from thence." (v.33)

"Unto this day they do after the former manners: they fear not the Lord, neither do they after their statutes, or after their ordinances, or after the law and commandments which the Lord cammanded the children of Jacob whom he named Israel; (v.34)


Simon Magus was a Samaritan and it is belived the people in the 1st. century idolized him and his coheart Helen, and they worshipped in synagogues.
 

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And Judah didn't fall into the same old traps of paganism that the ten tribed house of Israel did? If you believe that, then you haven't read the Book of Jeremiah.
 
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Here i go again. Those that wrest the scriptures for fun and profit. And most 'churches' do it, if not all. They pound from the pulpit the lie of the tithe...so they dont have to work in a sweat shop. They have diotrephe-ized themselves up and over God's heritage. They withhold the saints from their spiritual gifts and functions. They relegate Christ to the back of the bus, thereby quencing the Spirit. Should i go on? nuff said.

Instead of the organized church being the remedy to man kind, it is the enemy of man kind. They may have the salvation message right, but the rest of it....not so good.
So the path is out of Egypt, the world, straight to Babylon, the church, out of Babylon to Jerusalem. Would to God someone would wake up already!
I don't know if I ever agree with you but here I do ... Organized church is saving them to lead them to the damned. True story... Some wild stuff here.
 

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Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
I think they are what the text says - Jews.
Who claim to be Jews by their genetics/faith, who claim to be sons of Abraham, but in fact are not, because without Christ, they are the children of satan.

This explanation is also historically valid, because most of the blasphemy and violence against christianity in that time came from the early Jews.
 
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I think they are what the text says - Jews.
Who claim to be Jews by their genetics/faith, who claim to be sons of Abraham, but in fact are not, because without Christ, they are the children of satan.

This explanation is also historically valid, because most of the blasphemy and violence against christianity in that time came from the early Jews.
Today that would apply to most churches as they have become synagogues of satan. refusing to preach Christ and Him crucified ( because they don't want to offend and keep the money coming) and have turned to psychology a product of man.
 
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Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
The Armstrongites (followers of the heretic Herbert Armstrong) claimed that the "synagogue of Satan" were the Roman Catholic church and all the Sunday observing Protestants, who were all under the Mark of the Beast in his twisted theology.

He also associated them with the great prostitute of Revelation 17.

I imagine about any cultic group who thinks they have "the truth" plays the same game. They label true Christianity as the false Christianity and themselves as the true Christians.

Note that I am not defending the theology of Roman Catholicism. I am not a fan of some of their doctrines, as well as some of the doctrines of some Protestant organizations, but they aren't as bad as a blasphemous cult that claims their members will become fully God in the resurrection.
 
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The Armstrongites (followers of the heretic Herbert Armstrong) claimed that the "synagogue of Satan" were the Roman Catholic church and all the Sunday observing Protestants, who were all under the Mark of the Beast in his twisted theology.

He also associated them with the great prostitute of Revelation 17.

I imagine about any cultic group who thinks they have "the truth" plays the same game. They label true Christianity as the false Christianity and themselves as the true Christians.

Note that I am not defending the theology of Roman Catholicism. I am not a fan of some of their doctrines, as well as the doctrines of some Protestant organizations, but they aren't a blasphemous cult that claims their members will become fully God in the resurrection.
There's only one group who sit in synagogues ... There's only one group who claim to be Jews, these scriptures are pretty specific.
 
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There's only one group who sit in synagogues ... There's only one group who claim to be Jews, these scriptures are pretty specific.
But people go to church every Sunday or Saturday and their constituents promote gays and transgender is that not a synagogue of satan?
 
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But people go to church every Sunday or Saturday and their constituents promote gays and transgender is that not a synagogue of satan?
No.. That's just satanic (confused) gentile church. Do they claim to be Jews outwardly?
 
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No.. That's just satanic (confused) gentile church.
well that's whats happening, have you read the news lately and these are people who claim to be christian and our values are being called hate.
 
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The Catholic Church
 

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When we consider the source of the word, Jew, it is Judah. It is the name given by Leah when she gave birth to another male child, and she said, "now I will praise Yahwah (God)."

Judah is not one word, it may be translated to "praiser of Yahweh (God.)

So when people say they are praisers of God and are NOT, they are saying they are Jews, but are not. Think aout this. The name is explained in the Bible for a reason.

All who praise God, in this sense, are Jews, those who do not, are not. Any who say they praise God and do not are of that synagogue. Bear in mind also, synagogue is a Greek word meaning congregation or assembly........
 
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When we consider the source of the word, Jew, it is Judah. It is the name given by Leah when she gave birth to another male child, and she said, "now I will praise Yahwah (God)."

Judah is not one word, it may be translated to "praiser of Yahweh (God.)

So when people say they are praisers of God and are NOT, they are saying they are Jews, but are not. Think aout this. The name is explained in the Bible for a reason.

All who praise God, in this sense, are Jews, those who do not, are not. Any who say they praise God and do not are of that synagogue. Bear in mind also, synagogue is a Greek word meaning congregation or assembly........
John 8

37I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
 

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...synagogue of Satan...
It is a reference to ungodly Jews (who claim to be godly) who actively reject the Gospel message in the light of it being confirmed by mighty signs wonders and miracles (done in the Name of Jesus by the Holy Spirit) even as the Scribes and Pharisees did! Mark 3v22,28-30, John 15v22-25
 
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Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
I believe that the 7 Churches in the book of Revelation are a prophetic statement to how the Church age will go,not that God does not always have people that are in the truth,for God always has people that are in the truth,even when there is deception abroad,but how the Church age will go possibly in majority belief,or what is mainly believed,and followed.

Rom 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
Rom 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

When Israel was astray from God,with the vast majority not doing the will of God,there were still people that followed God in the truth,so even though the Churches in Revelation,with the exception of the 6th Church,had problems,and was what was followed in majority belief,there were still people that were in the truth of God's word.

Rev 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
Rev 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked.

We see that out of all the Churches,that Jesus did not have anything against the Church of Philadelphia,and the next Church they are lukewarm,which is what we see today.

Also Jesus said that He would keep the Church of Philadelphia from the hour of temptation,which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

There is only one temptation that can come upon the whole world,and that is the temptation to go in the direction of the beast kingdom,thinking that it is the best way for mankind to solve their problems,and have peace on earth,and prosperity,which they will eventually look at religion more based on people is responsible for their own spiritual evolution,by trying to harness the power of nature.

1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
1Th 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

Paul said he had no reason to write unto the saints concerning the day of the Lord,for the saints know that it comes as a thief in the night,and Paul did not know,as well as no person can know,but he gives the saints a clue to when it is close,and to also not follow the world when they are coming together saying they can solve their problems,which they will start cutting God out of the picture,believing in spiritual evolution,honoring the God of forces,or the evolutionary process,and will be in to trying to harness the power of nature.

When they shall say peace,and safety,is the temptation that will come upon all the world,to try all them that dwell on the earth,which is when God will cause all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,and those that love not God will believe it is the best way,and the truth,on what they should do for the prosperity of the world,and for themselves.

But the saints abiding in the truth will know that what they are doing is not from God,and that the only way to have peace on earth,and the prosperity of people,is to follow God,and Jesus Christ.

It is obvious that when the Roman Empire embraced Christianity,that they did not get rid of their religious ways,but they held unto them,and dragged them in to the Bible,which became their foundation for the interpretation of scripture,which is why Mary can be the Queen of heaven,and the mother of God,which Jesus said do not exalt Mary,and the Pope can be the holy father,which Jesus said why call Me good,for there is only one good,and that is God,which Jesus was speaking as a man,and call no man on earth father in a spiritual sense,and the Pope can be the head of the Church,but Christ is the head of the Church.

And confessing sins to a priest,when we confess our sins to God,and only He can forgive us,and Jesus is our mediator,and not a priest,and praying over rosary beads,and using physical objects as if there is power there,and having holy water,thinking there is some benefit there,and holding tradition as having some benefit,which Jesus told the Pharisees,that they make the word of God of none effect,by their tradition.

And so many other things they do that is not part of the Bible,that I do not have one week to expose them all,but must get moving on,and that is because they interpret the scriptures according to pagan ways,the ways they had before they embraced Christianity,for they dragged those pagan ways in to the Bible,and it became their foundation for the interpretation of scripture.

These ways can be considered paganism,the occult,witchcraft,idolatry,and the such,which these ways are of Satan,and not of God.

So the synagogue of Satan would appear as if it would be the Roman Catholic Church,that engage in these practices of paganism,that mingled paganism,with Christianity.

The Church of Philadelphia would appear to be the reformation,when they broke from the Roman Catholic Church,and got back to biblical truth,and shed the things of the Roman Catholic Church,that were not right,and paganism,which Jesus did not have a problem with them,and since they abide in the truth,they will be kept from the temptation,that shall try all them that shall dwell on earth,and Jesus will make those that are of the synagogue of Satan,to come and worship before their feet,and to know that Jesus loved them.

The Church of the Laodiceans,are the hypocrites,which we see a lot today,that are involved in worldliness,and money,and material things.

The 7 Churches is a prophetic statement of how the Church age would go in influencing people in a big way,although God always has people in the truth,and we see can see all 7 Churches today,but they do not have as much of an influence like they did have at one time,for there is a lot of Catholics,but there is a lot of Protestants,as well as a lot of hypocrites,no matter what Church.

The proportion of their Church compared to the truth,is not as big as it was,in the past,except the 7th Church,which there is more hypocrites today than ever in the history of the Church,but of course there is a whole lot more things today,in worldliness,and fleshy pleasures,and money,and material things,than in the past,so there is more to fight against,but there still is no excuse,but Jesus did not have anything to say against the Church of Philaelphia.

And when the Bible says they say they are Jews,but are not,is because a Christian is a Jew inward,and part of the inheritance,and salvation of Israel.

But I am not bashing Catholics,for they love God,like other Christians,but a lot do not study enough,and go by that denomination,and defend it,like even people that are Protestant,that defend their denomination,even though they might have fault in it,although minor,and not really threatening,and the Catholics are not trying to be of the occult,or witchcraft,and the such,but a lot of people will like a Church,and defend it,in any denomination,and will not give it consideration what they teach,for the Catholics are not doing anything different than a lot of Protestants,defending their denomination,without considering what they teach,but it is sad that they went to the Catholic Church,for while some go because of family tradition,some of them if they actually went to a Protestant first,they might of clung there.

But nevertheless,although they love God,and do not think anything is amiss,and are not trying to be a part of paganism,and the occult,and the such,and hate Satan,and his ways,there is still no excuse,because they have access to the Bible,and should be able to see their fault,which the Bible says when they claim to be preaching the word of God,search the scriptures daily to see if it is the truth,and study to show yourself approved of God.

So I am not Catholic bashing,but I put a lot of the fault on the Pope,and the Vatican,and there is too many things that they do wrong,for them not to be able to see it in scriptures.All the things that the Catholic Church does that is wrong,and grave error,and they cannot see that in the Bible,with that vastness of things they do wrong.

Is the Pope deceiving on purpose.Does he really believe the word of God.Is he really following God,because it does not make sense,for we are not talking like the little things that Protestants discuss trying to know truth,but the Catholic Church has major things wrong,and grave error,and they cannot see it.

But I apologize for another long post,because I have a hard time posting a small post,but I keep rattling,and rattling on.
 
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It has always been my understanding the Seven Churches represent various characteristics of assemblies of Jesus Christ everywhere. This is in line with your post here above, but I stop at this understanding. Anything further may not be helpful coming from me. God bless all in Jesus Christ......and all who will be, amen.
 
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I think they are what the text says - Jews.
Who claim to be Jews by their genetics/faith, who claim to be sons of Abraham, but in fact are not, because without Christ, they are the children of satan.

This explanation is also historically valid, because most of the blasphemy and violence against christianity in that time came from the early Jews.
I would agree it is in respect to an inward Jew born of the Spirit of Christ verses an outward Jew in respect to the flesh that stands in the same place as a unbelieving(no faith) gentile. Because God called those who were previously called Jews in respect to the inward born again of the spirit a new name he call us as Christians in the book of Acts .

It could be paraphrased as below substituting the word Jew with Christian, the new name. In that way he puts no difference between and Jew and a gentile, purifying the hearts of both by a work of his faith, working in them .God is no respecter of persons.

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Christians , and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
 
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I notice when your right, no one expounds on that ... No correction, or apology or thanks.. Just silence, haha

God bless