Evolution fact or fiction?

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do you believe we evolved from monkeys?


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Marian29

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I once believed in evolution but now I have my doubts. Gorillas of ancient times are still Gorillas today. They have not changed. Nor has plant life or the birds that fly in the sky.

What I believed happened is that we were visited by universe travelers who seed planets that can support life. Just as we will do in the far off future. Even in our life time when our astronauts visit Mars we will leave some DNA behind.

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Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. {substance: or, ground, or, confidence}
Hebrews 11:1

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Hebrews 11:3
 

trofimus

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Trof, you try, but it just doesn't stick. Context determines meaning. So yes, of course 'yom' has different meanings in different books/passages etc. That doesn't mean its usage in early Genesis means anything other than day, as in the 24-hour understanding of the word. It's only ever questioned in the early chapters of Genesis. I wonder why that is?
Tin, you try, but it just does not stick :)
Context determines meaning. So the "yom" in Genesis is not 24-hours day, because the sun, moon and stars were made visible to divide days, weeks, months and years much later than was the first "day".
 
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FinnGottlieb

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You can still believe evolution happened and be a Christian. God could've created the fish first and intended evolution to happen. The Hebrew word that we translate as "day" in the bible can also mean any amount of time. So in the beginning, what we consider the first week of creation could've actually lasted millions of years
 

oyster67

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You can still believe evolution happened and be a Christian. God could've created the fish first and intended evolution to happen. The Hebrew word that we translate as "day" in the bible can also mean any amount of time. So in the beginning, what we consider the first week of creation could've actually lasted millions of years
How many million years do you think poor little mister flower had to wait for big mister sunshine to peep over the hill?
 

oyster67

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Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. {substance: or, ground, or, confidence}
Hebrews 11:1

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Hebrews 11:3
Amen. The Bible says the just shall live by faith, not by waiting for science to catch up to the holy inspired Word of God.

Why isn't "because God says so" a good enough reason for a man who professes to be a follower of Christ and His Word.

I like science to. If We would just be willing to build on what the Bible already tells us, then our true science would be miles ahead of their sandy science-so-called.
 

oyster67

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View attachment 148593

I once believed in evolution but now I have my doubts. Gorillas of ancient times are still Gorillas today. They have not changed. Nor has plant life or the birds that fly in the sky.

What I believed happened is that we were visited by universe travelers who seed planets that can support life. Just as we will do in the far off future. Even in our life time when our astronauts visit Mars we will leave some DNA behind.

Comments welcome
I like your avatar of the little boy picking his nose. I hope he picks a good one, because 6 million years from now a new alien race will hatch out of it. Perhaps yet another species will emerge from his feces :)
 
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I like your avatar of the little boy picking his nose. I hope he picks a good one, because 6 million years from now a new alien race will hatch out of it. Perhaps yet another species will emerge from his feces :)

no no never - only slugs from slugs and bugs from bugs not humans - wincam
 

trofimus

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You can still believe evolution happened and be a Christian. God could've created the fish first and intended evolution to happen. The Hebrew word that we translate as "day" in the bible can also mean any amount of time. So in the beginning, what we consider the first week of creation could've actually lasted millions of years
Yes. In fact, vast majority of christians believe in the old earth (billions of years) and evolution.
Young earth creationists are just louder and more active group while propagating their view, so they are more visible.
 

trofimus

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How many million years do you think poor little mister flower had to wait for big mister sunshine to peep over the hill?
Stars (our sun included) were created in the verse one - In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Later they were only made visible from the surface of the earth, because the atmosphere of the planet was not transparent before.

Hebrew words in the verse 16 (God made two big lights...etc) mean the action made some time ago in the past, not an actual creation. And science confirms that.
 
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If we evolved from monkeys why do we still have monkeys?
 

trofimus

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Ok, there is some "urban legend" between some Christians that evolution theory says we evolved from monkeys.

But no, evolution theory does not say that.
 
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BeyondET

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Stars (our sun included) were created in the verse one - In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Later they were only made visible from the surface of the earth, because the atmosphere of the planet was not transparent before.

Hebrew words in the verse 16 (God made two big lights...etc) mean the action made some time ago in the past, not an actual creation. And science confirms that.
hey yea I agree about stars being in verse one and in my view our sun is one of billions of suns or more though the billions or more where in the beginning and the sun in our solar system was Created complete in its form as we know it today in the fourth day verse. Yes it was later when man could look to the heavens and view them. One of the great lights mentioned is the sun close to earth I assume pretty much agreed on by most people. the other light I know a few answers from scripture to other answers.
 
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BeyondET

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Ok, there is some "urban legend" between some Christians that evolution theory says we evolved from monkeys.

But no, evolution theory does not say that.
Yea I've heard of those urban legends, lol I've heard one the other day that Bigfoot will evolve to wookiee
 
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Kisses1990

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Yeah this question is worded really poorly. We evolved from monkey like creatures, but they probably were very different from any modern day living monkeys. Monkeys did NOT start giving birth to humans. There was no first monkey, human, or otherwise.
 

trofimus

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Yeah this question is worded really poorly. We evolved from monkey like creatures, but they probably were very different from any modern day living monkeys. Monkeys did NOT start giving birth to humans. There was no first monkey, human, or otherwise.
Well, I dont know if we really did evolve from lower hominids or not, but we should at least know what we want to criticize, i.e. the evolution theory :)
 
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Kisses1990

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We all came from a common ancestor. I wouldn't necessarily call them "lower" animals. They were just as evolved as anything else living along with them. It's a misunderstanding to think that evolution works in a sort of upward ladder process. That's not the case. A turtle is no more evolved than a rabbit which is no more evolved than a tulip. That's why it's the "tree" of life not the ladder of life. So it's not as if monkeys are wishing to become human and they are well on their way as if humanity is the final step of evolution. Doesn't work that way. We humans might cease to be humans as we know them in another million years. We could speciate and there could be different intelligent apes living around the globe again. Especially this will happen if we start colonizing other planets and moons. Isolated gene pools are basically breeding grounds for allopatric speciation events.
 

trofimus

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We all came from a common ancestor. I wouldn't necessarily call them "lower" animals. They were just as evolved as anything else living along with them. It's a misunderstanding to think that evolution works in a sort of upward ladder process. That's not the case. A turtle is no more evolved than a rabbit which is no more evolved than a tulip. That's why it's the "tree" of life not the ladder of life. So it's not as if monkeys are wishing to become human and they are well on their way as if humanity is the final step of evolution. Doesn't work that way. We humans might cease to be humans as we know them in another million years. We could speciate and there could be different intelligent apes living around the globe again. Especially this will happen if we start colonizing other planets and moons. Isolated gene pools are basically breeding grounds for allopatric speciation events.
I think there is no theological problem with the evolution theory, but I am not sure if it is proved scientifically without a doubt, already.
 
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BeyondET

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I like the tulip,turtle and rabbit running along side each other...