Attack on our constitution

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hornetguy

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Just a second there, buddy.

It's he who made the insinuation about joining them. How about spreading your poisonous pen to his comments since he started it?
Poisonous pen?

You haven't responded to my questions and suggestions. All you've done is make snarky comments about supporting the Panthers in their persecuted 2nd amendment quest. Which has been shown to be a total fabrication.

No point in continuing this farce.
 

peacenik

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Because you clearly delight in trolling. It's okay though. I'm laughing. The pics were priceless.


Glad you like the pics though they are not as humorous as you may like.

You need to understand that I do not succumb to the delusional right wing political correctness that permeates this board. I think freely and pose issues that certain rigid minded types cannot answer. These people here say the Constitution is under attack. But they fail to note that people in the inner cities, the ghettos have always had their constitutional rights infringed upon. When police go around strip searching people, patting them down, forcing them to sit by their cars on the side of the road while the cops take their d@mn good time about checking for license registration, or when the cops burst into people's homes searching for drugs without a warrant, all that infringes on people's liberty. Right wingers like the Tea Party and other radicals of the far right believe their rights are infringed. Now imagine how they would feel if this happened to them on a daily basis as happens in the ghetto each and every day.

This is why the Black Panthers arm themselves. And when they do that is when the cops stop the endless harassment of innocent law abiding people. If you are the principled conservative types which so many of you claim to be, you would applaud these actions. Failure to do so is hypocrisy of the worse kind. Read the Constitution. See for yourself that there is an equal protection and privileges and immunity clause that is supposed to be applied to everyone on an equal basis at all times under all circumstances. When the government fails to do this, that's when people have a right to arm themselves and to insure that they protect their own rights.


As Jefferson allegedly said, when people fear the government, there is tyranny. When government fears the people there is liberty.


In the ghetto people rightfully fear the government in the form of police. This is why the actions of the Black Panthers in marching through the streets is appropriate. Those who deny that commit treason against the Constitution.
 
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Glad you like the pics though they are not as humorous as you may like.

You need to understand that I do not succumb to the delusional right wing political correctness that permeates this board. I think freely and pose issues that certain rigid minded types cannot answer. These people here say the Constitution is under attack. But they fail to note that people in the inner cities, the ghettos have always had their constitutional rights infringed upon. When police go around strip searching people, patting them down, forcing them to sit by their cars on the side of the road while the cops take their d@mn good time about checking for license registration, or when the cops burst into people's homes searching for drugs without a warrant, all that infringes on people's liberty. Right wingers like the Tea Party and other radicals of the far right believe their rights are infringed. Now imagine how they would feel if this happened to them on a daily basis as happens in the ghetto each and every day.

This is why the Black Panthers arm themselves. And when they do that is when the cops stop the endless harassment of innocent law abiding people. If you are the principled conservative types which so many of you claim to be, you would applaud these actions. Failure to do so is hypocrisy of the worse kind. Read the Constitution. See for yourself that there is an equal protection and privileges and immunity clause that is supposed to be applied to everyone on an equal basis at all times under all circumstances. When the government fails to do this, that's when people have a right to arm themselves and to insure that they protect their own rights.


As Jefferson allegedly said, when people fear the government, there is tyranny. When government fears the people there is liberty.


In the ghetto people rightfully fear the government in the form of police. This is why the actions of the Black Panthers in marching through the streets is appropriate. Those who deny that commit treason against the Constitution.

Lol. And ironically by democrats. Haha.
 

hornetguy

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See for yourself that there is an equal protection and privileges and immunity clause that is supposed to be applied to everyone on an equal basis at all times under all circumstances. When the government fails to do this, that's when people have a right to arm themselves and to insure that they protect their own rights.
I agree with that completely. IF the police were truly planning to infringe on the rights of the black voters, then the citizens have the responsibility to stop it.

If that had been the case in your example, there would have been a mentality of "us against them"... with the "us" being non-police, or regular citizens. The Panthers would have been the champions of ALL citizens who wished to vote.

Their actions proved that they were NOT there for that reason, because they were harassing citizens... NOT police. They were not harassing black citizens, only WHITE citizens.

That flies in the face of your assertion that they were there simply to protect the citizens from the police.

Again, IF there was going to be harassment by the police, simply because of skin color, then I agree that taking up arms to prevent it would be the constitutional thing to do.

Unfortunately, this was not the case here.
 
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aforgivensonofGod

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None of this matters. I just hope every child of God is prepared for the kingdom and is willing to walk with the king of Kings. That's what matters. I don't understand all of this nonsense because at the end of the day, God doesn't care either. What is highly esteemed of men, is not highly esteemed of God. I just want to make that clear.

What God cares about is his sons and daughters preparing for the kingdom, preparing to become a bride ready for her groom. At the end of the day, if God did care about this stuff, he'll raise up a prophet who will address it, or he'll just use whomever he chooses. The same way God used Obama to open doors in Iraq/Iran, in those middle Islamic countries so his PEOPLE living in those country can profit, benefit, be saved.

Rather we like it or not, it's God plans for his people, and I want to be on Gods plan and what He has, not of my own. We get so tangled up in all these nonsense, that we forget our real objective in life, and that is to fear God, follow him, and fulfill your calling. Lets bear profitable fruit, for that is what God is looking for. Fruit of the holy Spirit that is everlasting.
 

Desdichado

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Glad you like the pics though they are not as humorous as you may like.

You need to understand that I do not succumb to the delusional right wing political correctness that permeates this board. I think freely and pose issues that certain rigid minded types cannot answer. These people here say the Constitution is under attack. But they fail to note that people in the inner cities, the ghettos have always had their constitutional rights infringed upon. When police go around strip searching people, patting them down, forcing them to sit by their cars on the side of the road while the cops take their d@mn good time about checking for license registration, or when the cops burst into people's homes searching for drugs without a warrant, all that infringes on people's liberty. Right wingers like the Tea Party and other radicals of the far right believe their rights are infringed. Now imagine how they would feel if this happened to them on a daily basis as happens in the ghetto each and every day.

This is why the Black Panthers arm themselves. And when they do that is when the cops stop the endless harassment of innocent law abiding people. If you are the principled conservative types which so many of you claim to be, you would applaud these actions. Failure to do so is hypocrisy of the worse kind. Read the Constitution. See for yourself that there is an equal protection and privileges and immunity clause that is supposed to be applied to everyone on an equal basis at all times under all circumstances. When the government fails to do this, that's when people have a right to arm themselves and to insure that they protect their own rights.


As Jefferson allegedly said, when people fear the government, there is tyranny. When government fears the people there is liberty.


In the ghetto people rightfully fear the government in the form of police. This is why the actions of the Black Panthers in marching through the streets is appropriate. Those who deny that commit treason against the Constitution.
Good for you, Sparky.
 

peacenik

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I agree with that completely. IF the police were truly planning to infringe on the rights of the black voters, then the citizens have the responsibility to stop it.

If that had been the case in your example, there would have been a mentality of "us against them"... with the "us" being non-police, or regular citizens. The Panthers would have been the champions of ALL citizens who wished to vote.

Their actions proved that they were NOT there for that reason, because they were harassing citizens... NOT police. They were not harassing black citizens, only WHITE citizens.

That flies in the face of your assertion that they were there simply to protect the citizens from the police.

Again, IF there was going to be harassment by the police, simply because of skin color, then I agree that taking up arms to prevent it would be the constitutional thing to do.

Unfortunately, this was not the case here.




As usual, it is not fashionable nor politically correct in the minds of the deluded far right. But it certainly was the case in Texas. Not only did Blacks vote, they were kept safe from police harassment and brutality. Note that not one person was injured, arrested, not one car nor business property was damaged. This is what happens when the people are armed as they should be while the government should be disarmed.
 

peacenik

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Desdichado; said:
Good for you, Sparky.

Nothing new under the sun my unhappy Friend. (for those who don't know it, Desdichado means unhappy)
 

peacenik

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^ legislation that was initially proposed by Republican Bush ;)
 
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^ legislation that was initially proposed by Republican Bush ;)
And I criticized him for it. What I think that you fail to realize is that Bush, Obama, Hitlery, Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, Kerry...etc etc ad nauseam all have the same master.
 

peacenik

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the same master as did Reagan who not only proposed it but actually enacted it before any of them tried to do so
 
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the same master as did Reagan who not only proposed it but actually enacted it before any of them tried to do so
Maybe so. Why do you think insider Bush was forced on him as VP? Had to keep him in line right? Precisely why Trump needs to pick a VP that isn't a company man to ensure they don't try to kill him too. Us pesky electorate get in the way on occasion. If these people don't get their guy in the white house they try to do it thru the back door. I think Trump already knows this.
 
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People think the constitution exists to give them rights....they are wrong. The constitution is designed to constrain govt so that people can exercise their natural God given rights contained therein.
 

hornetguy

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As usual, it is not fashionable nor politically correct in the minds of the deluded far right. But it certainly was the case in Texas. Not only did Blacks vote, they were kept safe from police harassment and brutality. Note that not one person was injured, arrested, not one car nor business property was damaged. This is what happens when the people are armed as they should be while the government should be disarmed.
While I agree with the sentiment that having an armed populace is the best defense against tyranny in government, I think you are delusional about why the Panthers are doing this.

Exactly WHAT police harassment and brutality has been going on at the polls in Houston Texas? Do you honestly believe that during the elections in the past 10 years or so, that if there was ANY police harassment at polls that it wouldn't be pasted all over Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, etc.... not to mention the local news stations that LIVE for stuff like that?

You are simply trying to paint a pretty face on Panther voter intimidation... trying to make them look like modern day "Zorro" or "Robin Hood" characters.... and failing miserably. They are simply racist thugs... the black version of the KKK.
 

peacenik

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Maybe so. Why do you think insider Bush was forced on him as VP? Had to keep him in line right? Precisely why Trump needs to pick a VP that isn't a company man to ensure they don't try to kill him too. Us pesky electorate get in the way on occasion. If these people don't get their guy in the white house they try to do it thru the back door. I think Trump already knows this.



A great many right wingers love to attack Obama but his record will readily parallel those of conservatives Reagan and the two Bush's.
 

peacenik

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While I agree with the sentiment that having an armed populace is the best defense against tyranny in government, I think you are delusional about why the Panthers are doing this.

Exactly WHAT police harassment and brutality has been going on at the polls in Houston Texas? Do you honestly believe that during the elections in the past 10 years or so, that if there was ANY police harassment at polls that it wouldn't be pasted all over Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, etc.... not to mention the local news stations that LIVE for stuff like that?

You are simply trying to paint a pretty face on Panther voter intimidation... trying to make them look like modern day "Zorro" or "Robin Hood" characters.... and failing miserably. They are simply racist thugs... the black version of the KKK.




Homework time: it was the bigoted Tea Party right wingers who were intimidating voters:


The voter fraud & intimidation stories you won't hear about on Fox


The Ballot Cops - The Atlantic
 
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hornetguy

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I need to remind myself not to ask questions, please dont answer it, I am really trying to rid myself of trying to understand where others are coming from, its not important to know.
You should keep asking questions. If people are afraid to answer them then it is on them.