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jennymae

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I'm not saying gays should be discriminated, not at all, but a company should be allowed to make the calls on their own site. Forcing them into accepting life styles they don't approve of is simply wrong.
 

RickyZ

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Of course He does and it bothers me that people keep repeating the lie that He does not.

Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin."
Even tho sins may be weighted, they all carry the same penalty.
 
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Mitspa

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God says sin is sin...He doesn't weight one more than the other...
People who live the Gay lifestyle don't need to be shunned by us...
we are called to lead...we are called to help others...i say go ahead
witness to them...let God "straighten them out"...sorry for the pun..
we can't fix anyone...i say let them in...and send them to God to do what
He wills for them...jmo....so glad no one kept me out of the church cause of my sins...
This is just so ungodly .. and un-American ... No real Christian should in anyway be forced to approve sexual perversion and deviant behavior ..
 
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i didn't quite follow your response :confused:

I was asking why can't gays simply start their own dating site, instead of attacking those that have a different value?
Sorry, my point was it's not about "having their own". It's about stopping christian anything while standing behind a legal "cloak" of homosexuality. IMO, some gays suing aren't even gay.
 
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kaylagrl

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God says sin is sin...He doesn't weight one more than the other...
People who live the Gay lifestyle don't need to be shunned by us...
we are called to lead...we are called to help others...i say go ahead
witness to them...let God "straighten them out"...sorry for the pun..
we can't fix anyone...i say let them in...and send them to God to do what
He wills for them...jmo....so glad no one kept me out of the church cause of my sins...

No one is talking about not allowing people in church because of sin. We are talking about people taking over the church and saying "this is our lifestyle,you will accept it" that is totally different.
 
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kaylagrl

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How many have noticed the multitudes of false flag sites on the internet showing pics like this one?
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Now, I'm not for/against this subject, I'm making a point with it. IF govt. agencies hire such people to boost fear & promote gun control, then what else are they doing? What else CAN they do? How about hiring an actor to say they're gay & sue a Christian establishment, splashing the media with articles portraying Christians as gay haters & law breakers? The actor get govt. protection, a salary, AND a settlement..... it's a win/win/win situation.


I'd say this belongs in the conspiracy forum. Its nonsense. Sorry ,just how I see it.
 
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Ugly

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Its not the same thing...its a "Christian" dating site and the ruling will be overturned ..if they fight it?
The owner of eHarmony is a Christian though, so it is a Christian 'owned' business even if it's not a Christian only dating site. This is why he allowed it to go to court, to fight it, rather than just giving in, and why he did not have a section for gays to begin with. As a loophole, he formed a second dating site for gays only, but doesn't advertise it. That way he 'technically' complied with the court ruling, but with giving no real victory to them.
 
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Mitspa

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The owner of eHarmony is a Christian though, so it is a Christian 'owned' business even if it's not a Christian only dating site. This is why he allowed it to go to court, to fight it, rather than just giving in, and why he did not have a section for gays to begin with. As a loophole, he formed a second dating site for gays only, but doesn't advertise it. That way he 'technically' complied with the court ruling, but with giving no real victory to them.
Its often about how much are you willing to spend in a court battle and finding a conservative judge who will rule according to the constitution ...
 

jsr1221

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No one is talking about not allowing people in church because of sin. We are talking about people taking over the church and saying "this is our lifestyle,you will accept it" that is totally different.
To be fair, the only way that happens is they walk into the doors of the church. So how do we draw the line?
 
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Mitspa

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To be fair, the only way that happens is they walk into the doors of the church. So how do we draw the line?
Its called freedom of religion ..no one should be forced to allow sexual perversion in any Christian group.
 

Nautilus

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How many have noticed the multitudes of false flag sites on the internet showing pics like this one?
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Now, I'm not for/against this subject, I'm making a point with it. IF govt. agencies hire such people to boost fear & promote gun control, then what else are they doing? What else CAN they do? How about hiring an actor to say they're gay & sue a Christian establishment, splashing the media with articles portraying Christians as gay haters & law breakers? The actor get govt. protection, a salary, AND a settlement..... it's a win/win/win situation.

Aw man look at that similar looking women at four terrorist sites. There is no way an average sizered brownhaired femaler could have possibly been at all of them. Totally a plant.
 

jsr1221

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Its called freedom of religion ..no one should be forced to allow sexual perversion in any Christian group.
True, but addicts. Adulters. Divorced couples. All are at each and every church. So, I ask again, how do we draw a line for the gay community if even one comes in? Ministering is not kicking the person out. And no, having a gay person sit in church is not condoning the lifestyle because I refer you back to the addict that sits behind, in front, or next to you in your church.
 
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Ugly

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True, but addicts. Adulters. Divorced couples. All are at each and every church. So, I ask again, how do we draw a line for the gay community if even one comes in? Ministering is not kicking the person out. And no, having a gay person sit in church is not condoning the lifestyle because I refer you back to the addict that sits behind, in front, or next to you in your church.
Well, addicts are not likely to sit in church and publicize and engage in their addiction. Same with most any other sins. Homosexuality on the other hand is out there for everyone to see and often not so easy to disguise.

And much of this has to do with homosexual agenda. There's a distinction between letting a seeking homosexual in your church vs allowing homosexuals with an agenda to force their acceptance in all facets of life. Just the same as if a drug dealer were trying to push drugs on people in the church he would be removed.
But as i continue to say, too much has been put on going to church as the place to bring in unsaved. Instead the church should be training Christians to go out into the world and win people over. If the church were operating in the right manner such issues wouldn't be so large of a problem.
 
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No one is talking about not allowing people in church because of sin. We are talking about people taking over the church and saying "this is our lifestyle,you will accept it" that is totally different.
And suing to get it done.
 

jsr1221

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Well, addicts are not likely to sit in church and publicize and engage in their addiction. Same with most any other sins. Homosexuality on the other hand is out there for everyone to see and often not so easy to disguise.

And much of this has to do with homosexual agenda. There's a distinction between letting a seeking homosexual in your church vs allowing homosexuals with an agenda to force their acceptance in all facets of life. Just the same as if a drug dealer were trying to push drugs on people in the church he would be removed.
But as i continue to say, too much has been put on going to church as the place to bring in unsaved. Instead the church should be training Christians to go out into the world and win people over. If the church were operating in the right manner such issues wouldn't be so large of a problem.
If one is sitting in church, I'm not sure how one is engaging to begin with... The person is sitting in service. Now sure, a person could be having lustful thoughts (happens in every single service at every single church). Not sure if you're referring to that. But yes, it would be hard for an addict to drink a bottle of whiskey during the sermon. That same sermon, though, has people with sinful thoughts. So if a homosexual was sitting in a service, I'm not sure how he or she would be engaging unless he or she was having sinful thoughts. But that goes back again to the addict sitting right next to, behind, or in front of you.


I do agree with your last sentence, though. You can say that about all struggles in life (mental health, in particular, as there's still a stigma associated with it). I think the church has lost its purpose as whole, in my opinion.
 
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kaylagrl

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To be fair, the only way that happens is they walk into the doors of the church. So how do we draw the line?

We draw the line where the Bible draws it. You are welcome to come but the message doesn't change FOR you, it CHANGES you.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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God says sin is sin...He doesn't weight one more than the other...
People who live the Gay lifestyle don't need to be shunned by us...
we are called to lead...we are called to help others...i say go ahead
witness to them...let God "straighten them out"...sorry for the pun..
we can't fix anyone...i say let them in...and send them to God to do what
He wills for them...jmo....so glad no one kept me out of the church cause of my sins...

I havent met one person on this site who has made the claim that a repented sinner cant be saved due to homosexuality.



I agree with 49, though. I would just shut down the site, too. Or keep fighting, if I felt I had enough supporters.

There are gay dating sites out there, why cant there be Christian dating sites? And if these people here had a problem, they are free to have a gay Christian dating site, where they can make the rules and all that.

If this has been done, we may end up seeing a law passed on churches that refuse to marry gay couples. Would be a very sad day.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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I could say I'm gay & sue a christian establishment without proving I'm gay..... and win. This is a legal loophole in the law. The defendant must come upwith evidence to prove their innocence while the plaintiff doesn't have to prove they're gay. This means ANYONE .....christian haters, athiests, muslims, the 1%, & even paid govt actors can hide behind the gay banner & get what they want.

The gay rights issue is just a legal curtain to hide behind so every hater can stop Christian businesses, churches, clubs..... & the list goes on & on.....

That actually got me thinking, if a Muslim couple decided to sue them for having a Christian dating site, would they win, too?
 

Desdichado

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That actually got me thinking, if a Muslim couple decided to sue them for having a Christian dating site, would they win, too?
I'd love to see a Muslim sue a gay dating site for straight inclusion. This would give activist judges a run-time error. Possibly a heart attack.
 
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Mitspa

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True, but addicts. Adulters. Divorced couples. All are at each and every church. So, I ask again, how do we draw a line for the gay community if even one comes in? Ministering is not kicking the person out. And no, having a gay person sit in church is not condoning the lifestyle because I refer you back to the addict that sits behind, in front, or next to you in your church.
Can you not see the difference in telling this Christian group they must approve gay relationships ? We don't as Christians promote any form of ungodliness, even if some may be involved. You are not tryin to be honest about this..you are doing that same ole thing you and other always do ..trying to approve or excuse sinful and deviant behavior by pointing to some possible sin in others. I'm sure that dating site does not allow or promote adultery either if it comes to their knowledge.