What the Mark of the Beast Is, Number of the Beast, and Name of the Beast

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WarriorForChrist

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The mark of the beast is already here, but many have it unwittingly, as it is not a literal mark to be received, no different than the mark received on "foreheads" of the 144,000 chosen, so it is a figurative mark, just as many of the other figurative symbols in Revelation. Obviously before identifying the mark, you must first identify who the "beast of the earth" in Revelation is, that gives this mark. It is said that you cannot buy or sell unless you have three things,If you carefully piece together all the visions of the beasts in Revelation along with the visions and timings and the beasts of Daniel, you would have arrived that the beast of the earth in Revelation is the United States. A mark designates ownership, and also thoughts, "forehead" and actions, "right hand", so what thing in America enslaves its people that preoccupies much of their time and thoughts to serve the one issuing the mark? Its debt. And what is all issued debt in America given from that is supplied by the government to the rich and poor, small and great? The social security number. The social security is a financial system based on usury, as all insurance programs are a form of usury that is evil according to scripture,




"Detestable practice" is translated also as an "abomination". And from this usurious financial program that is forced upon the people, then stem various forms of debts and other usurious financial instruments - health insurance, life insurance, pension programs, annuities, mortgages, auto loans, credit cards... all manner of abominations to steal and to enslave. And using these instruments, is then how the mark of the beast is used to buy and sell, which is leveraging debt to acquire possessions.

So any involvement into paying into the social security program or receiving benefits and involvement in any form of debt or financial instrument of usury is having the mark of the best. Now, the number of the beast, is something else, which can be used to buy and sell as well. The number of the beast is the banking system, as it is a system of numbers, where mere numbers are used to transact. This form of trading is also evil as it involves associating oneself with the money lenders putting into practice all these forms of usury.

And the last way to buy and sell is using the name of the beast. Of the three ways to buy and sell, this one does not bear the penalty of the judgment of fire as do the other two. Buying and selling in the name of the beast is using "paper money" to transact, as paper money does not have a value of itself, except what value the government says it has and prints on the paper. So, when trading using paper money, you are in fact trading in the name of the United States and its backing and promise that the piece of paper has value.
LoL this would include almost every nation in the world. Dude, no one is buying into your game you are playing on this forum. You try to sound so enlightened and yet you sound more crazy with conspiracies than anything.
 
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#22
The mark of the beast is already here, but many have it unwittingly, as it is not a literal mark to be received, no different than the mark received on "foreheads" of the 144,000 chosen, so it is a figurative mark, just as many of the other figurative symbols in Revelation. Obviously before identifying the mark, you must first identify who the "beast of the earth" in Revelation is, that gives this mark. It is said that you cannot buy or sell unless you have three things,
Many different views. The book of Revelation is just loaded with parables that use the kind of language in respect to the spirit of the word, as the same spirit of faith according as it is written. The whole bible is written according to the spirit of faith (unseen) .

The antichrist which simply means; "another anointing (teaching) spirit" is here in regard to another manner of spirit other than as it is written(sola scriptura) . The word Christ means to anoint .Jesus/ Jehovah is the anointing Holy Spirit of God.

The antichrist has been here for a long time saying in effect ; it is men who must teach us and not the promised Holy Spirit that does dwell in each believer. .

The beast is Satan who has no form, he or it is the god of this world .That lying spirit uses or influences men in respect to the outward form to perform the pleasure of his will. 666 is the number God has designed to represent natural uncovered man as that which Christ calls the evil generation. That is spelled out clearly: for it is the number of a man. It would be if we buy His truth.

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a "man"; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

While I would agree the mark or spot is figurative used in parables which are designed to reveal the spiritual truth to one while hiding it from natural man the evil generation . Just as the buying and selling is used figuratively in regard to spiritual matters .

Pro 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

The Bible is a spiritual book in so much that it is concerned with spiritual matters not political matters as to political nations. United States has many nations that make her what she is. It is truth that is view here. We are to buy God’s truth and not sell it. The kingdom of God is not of this world.

Like the mark or spot of Cain which identified him as a restless wanderer. Not buying the truth of God and therefore not receiving eternal rest of Christ which Able did.

I think the mark is shown in the opening statement as to how we buy the truth by believing God in respect to His doctrine explained in that parable. They have a different spot or mark than the believer.

Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God. He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he. They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation. Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?Deu 32:1

They are the ones that would sell their spiritual birthright for a bowl of soup .They see no value in the things not seen. .Like that of Esau being influenced by the god of this world because of his immediate need (Hungry) .Esau sold what should not of been bought or sold to Jacob
 
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LoL this would include almost every nation in the world. Dude, no one is buying into your game you are playing on this forum. You try to sound so enlightened and yet you sound more crazy with conspiracies than anything.
Then don't.
Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy." (Revelation 22:11 [NIV])
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand. (Daniel 12:10 [NIV])
 
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Miri

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I had a friend who would not buy anything costing £9.99 because upside
down it resembles 666. :p
 
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Did he take all his money,and won't give it back?

A friend of mine sued his attorney and won most of his money back.
No its something one of the corrupt U.S banks is doing, and to its customers which is why an Atorney was obtained and a long story but there was absolutely no wrong doing on our part. So no, it was not the Atorney himself (who is also getting the run around by their team of wolves) but of that bank that I asked whether it was owned by the devil in respects to its evil doing. May the LORD repay them.
 

Blain

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Hey papp I have to admit because of how many people claim to know and understand the mark I was almost quick to discard your post without fully reading it but I read it anyways and looking at it from a non skeptical point of view I can understand why you think what you do about the mark and while I think you may be wrong I have no intention of mocking you and I certainly don't approve of the mocking you received we as Christians know better as we are called to love not mock.

However there is a major flaw in your understanding of the mark, those who bear the mark take it willingly and pledge their allegiance to the beast they worship him day and night and thus have turned their hearts against God with no return. If we who live in the united states have this mark then we are not of God or for God and we don't worship God either. When I was still new in faith God and I would have moments in which I would go into my room lay down on my bed in the dark and simply be with him and in this time at one point he and had a moment of the deepest intimacy we poured our deep love and deep endearment into each others hearts words spoken through the heart with no sound and no voice because only our hearts could express the depth of the love we felt towards another the human tongue could never speak of the depth of the love that our hearts could. in this time I saw his heart in my minds eye and in deep endearment I wrote the word mine on it and to my surprise at the very same time I saw him brand the word Mine on my forehead.

This was the Mark I received on my forehead that day one given to me and branded on my forehead with only the deepest love and endearment if being in the united states and using social security was the mark of the beast then God would not have marked me
 

prove-all

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The Number of the ‘Beast’—666—Whose Number Is It?
Here are all the scriptures speaking directly of this number:

“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast,or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six”
(Revelation 13:17-18).

“And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten
the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the
number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God”
(Revelation 15:2).

Note From these scriptures, we have the following definite points:

1. The beast has a number and may be identified, if we have wisdom,
by this number.

2. The number is 666.

3. We are told to count this number—that is, add it up. The same Greek word
is used elsewhere only in Luke 14:28: Count the cost.

4. This number, 666, is the number of the beast. The only Bible interpretation
of this symbol, “beast,” is a kingdom or the king who rules it and, therefore,
really is the kingdom (Daniel 7:17-18, 22-24, 27).

Therefore 666 must be the number of the kingdom, or government, or empire,
as well as that of the king who founds or rules it.

5. The expression “the name of the beast, or the number of his name” makes plain
that the number 666 is the number of the name of the kingdom or empire.

6. The expression “it is the number of a man” shows we must also count this number
in the name of the king, or ruler, over the kingdom identified as the “beast.”

The Beast Is Not the Woman [a church]

In the 17th chapter of Revelation we find a beast, and a woman—a great, wealthy
but fallen woman—who was riding the beast. The Bible describes the symbol “woman”
to mean a church (see 2?Corinthians 11:2; Revelation 19:7; Ephesians 5:22-27).

The beast of Revelation 13 is not the woman who rode the beast
—the beast is the government, and the woman is a church.

The beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire!

This beast had a deadly wound (Revelation 13:3). That means the beast ceased altogether
to exist or function as it had since 31 b.c. Yet its deadly wound was later healed, after which
(verse 5) it continued to exist another 1,260 years!

The Founder of Rome

The founder and first king of Rome was Romulus.
The Roman Empire was named after him.
His name, the name of a man, also is the name of the kingdom.
And every citizen in the kingdom bears the same name—a Roman.

When John wrote this Revelation, telling us to count the number of the beast,
he wrote in the Greek language. Consequently, we should look for this name,
and the number 666, in this language recognized in the Bible, not in the Latin.

We are all familiar with the Roman numerals, where letters are used for numbers.
All understand that I is 1, v is 5, x is 10, etc. But many do not know that the Greek
language, in which the book of Revelation was written, also uses letters for numbers.

In the Greek this name was understood in the second century a.d. to have originally
been spelled Lateinos. It signifies “Latin man” or “the name of Latium,”
from which region the Romans derived their origin and their language.

This word, too, signifies “Roman.” In the Greek, l is 30, a is 1, t is 300, e is 5,
I is 10, n is 50, o is 70, s is 200. Count these figures. They count to exactly 666!

It is indeed no coincidence that the name of the kingdom, its founder and first king,
and of each man in the kingdom, counts to exactly 666!

Certainly the beast stands identified!

now the mark of the beast is?
 
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This is not true,for 666 in the Strong's Concordance,says 666 is three words,Chi Xi Stigma,which it goes to Stigma,which is interpreted as,to stick;prick,punch or incise,for recognition of one's ownership(identification of the person)scar of service(to antichrist)mark.

The mark in the Bible will be used for identification of the person,one world economic system,and will be used to cut down on crime.

The beast's agenda is that there is no personal God to help mankind,and people's technology,and devices,can bring peace to the world.

So the mark of the beast,has to do with technology,which would seem like it would be the microchip,which would be a GPS tracking system,linked to Satellite,with all information about them on the chip,and all financial records on the chip,with a picture of them that comes up on computer.

If a crime happens in a certain area,they will know who was in the area at that time,and the precise location of the people,and at what time,cutting down on crime considerably,and can find lost people,for people will fear to do a crime knowing they will be found out,and do not want to abandon the chip,for then they cannot buy or sell.

The first wrath of God poured upon the world causes a grievous sore to happen to everyone that took the mark,so it would appear as if it is a physical thing in their right hand,or forehead,for the definition is to stick,i.e.prick,which the microchip would be put under the skin with a hypodermic needle,and God will cause the chip to explode in their hand or forehead,shooting down the system that they trusted in.
 
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This is not true,for 666 in the Strong's Concordance,says 666 is three words,Chi Xi Stigma,which it goes to Stigma,which is interpreted as,to stick;prick,punch or incise,for recognition of one's ownership(identification of the person)scar of service(to antichrist)mark.

The mark in the Bible will be used for identification of the person,one world economic system,and will be used to cut down on crime.

The beast's agenda is that there is no personal God to help mankind,and people's technology,and devices,can bring peace to the world.

So the mark of the beast,has to do with technology,which would seem like it would be the microchip,which would be a GPS tracking system,linked to Satellite,with all information about them on the chip,and all financial records on the chip,with a picture of them that comes up on computer.

If a crime happens in a certain area,they will know who was in the area at that time,and the precise location of the people,and at what time,cutting down on crime considerably,and can find lost people,for people will fear to do a crime knowing they will be found out,and do not want to abandon the chip,for then they cannot buy or sell.

The first wrath of God poured upon the world causes a grievous sore to happen to everyone that took the mark,so it would appear as if it is a physical thing in their right hand,or forehead,for the definition is to stick,i.e.prick,which the microchip would be put under the skin with a hypodermic needle,and God will cause the chip to explode in their hand or forehead,shooting down the system that they trusted in.
666 is not directly related to the mark of the beast, it is directly related to the number of the beast, as the mark and the number are two distinct things, hence,

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Revelation 13:18 [KJV])
666 is related to banking, as it relates to the passage of when Sheba gave gold to Solomon in the measure of 666. Hence why, the banking system is the number of the beast, as one can buy and sell using this system of numbers, which is the number of the beast.
 

valiant

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#32
The Number of the ‘Beast’—666—Whose Number Is It?
Here are all the scriptures speaking directly of this number:

“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast,or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six”
(Revelation 13:17-18).

“And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten
the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the
number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God”
(Revelation 15:2).

Note From these scriptures, we have the following definite points:

1. The beast has a number and may be identified, if we have wisdom,
by this number.

2. The number is 666.

3. We are told to count this number—that is, add it up. The same Greek word
is used elsewhere only in Luke 14:28: Count the cost.

4. This number, 666, is the number of the beast. The only Bible interpretation
of this symbol, “beast,” is a kingdom or the king who rules it and, therefore,
really is the kingdom (Daniel 7:17-18, 22-24, 27).

Therefore 666 must be the number of the kingdom, or government, or empire,
as well as that of the king who founds or rules it.

5. The expression “the name of the beast, or the number of his name” makes plain
that the number 666 is the number of the name of the kingdom or empire.

6. The expression “it is the number of a man” shows we must also count this number
in the name of the king, or ruler, over the kingdom identified as the “beast.”

The Beast Is Not the Woman [a church]

In the 17th chapter of Revelation we find a beast, and a woman—a great, wealthy
but fallen woman—who was riding the beast. The Bible describes the symbol “woman”
to mean a church (see 2?Corinthians 11:2; Revelation 19:7; Ephesians 5:22-27).

The beast of Revelation 13 is not the woman who rode the beast
—the beast is the government, and the woman is a church.

The beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire!

This beast had a deadly wound (Revelation 13:3). That means the beast ceased altogether
to exist or function as it had since 31 b.c. Yet its deadly wound was later healed, after which
(verse 5) it continued to exist another 1,260 years!

The Founder of Rome

The founder and first king of Rome was Romulus.
The Roman Empire was named after him.
His name, the name of a man, also is the name of the kingdom.
And every citizen in the kingdom bears the same name—a Roman.

When John wrote this Revelation, telling us to count the number of the beast,
he wrote in the Greek language. Consequently, we should look for this name,
and the number 666, in this language recognized in the Bible, not in the Latin.

We are all familiar with the Roman numerals, where letters are used for numbers.
All understand that I is 1, v is 5, x is 10, etc. But many do not know that the Greek
language, in which the book of Revelation was written, also uses letters for numbers.

In the Greek this name was understood in the second century a.d. to have originally
been spelled Lateinos. It signifies “Latin man” or “the name of Latium,”
from which region the Romans derived their origin and their language.

This word, too, signifies “Roman.” In the Greek, l is 30, a is 1, t is 300, e is 5,
I is 10, n is 50, o is 70, s is 200. Count these figures. They count to exactly 666!

It is indeed no coincidence that the name of the kingdom, its founder and first king,
and of each man in the kingdom, counts to exactly 666!

Certainly the beast stands identified!

now the mark of the beast is?
There are so may people whose names can be identified as 666 that it is now beyond telling, They probably knew in John;s day
 
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Note From these scriptures, we have the following definite points:

1. The beast has a number and may be identified, if we have wisdom,
by this number.

2. The number is 666.

3. We are told to count this number—that is, add it up. The same Greek word
is used elsewhere only in Luke 14:28: Count the cost.

4. This number, 666, is the number of the beast. The only Bible interpretation
of this symbol, “beast,” is a kingdom or the king who rules it and, therefore,
really is the kingdom (Daniel 7:17-18, 22-24, 27).

Therefore 666 must be the number of the kingdom, or government, or empire,
as well as that of the king who founds or rules it.
It clearly identifies who it is... man, as in us, all of mankind .

It is simply natural man without the Spirit of Christ. .Just as it says man, as one of the beast of the field, a phrase that simply means; formed from the earth, as earthen vessels. I see no real need to make the word beast into a word that denotes evil as some might. .

The Hebrew word for earth is adama. God formed man from the dust of the earth, and on the simplest level, that connection with adama, earth, is the basis for man's name. The number assigned to that name is 666.

Once Adam sinned and ate the forbidden fruit, he introduced death to the world and was sentenced to once again return to the earth from which God created him like all beasts do .

And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof .And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. Gen 2:19

There was no beast of the field needed for Adam. God had a different use set aside as holy for man . Mankind was to be shown different than the other creation in so much that he created man in his own image, and not the other beast of the field they were not created in the image of God.In the image of God created he Adam alone; male and female created he them.. From Adam and not from the dust of the ground he created Eve His wife .

Adam of all the beast of the field was created in the likeness of God . From Adam alone was woman made. She is used to respect the church His Bride in respect to the seed in Genesis 3:15 that crushed the head of the serpent. In respect to the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world the first 6 days when God did rest from all of His works. The crushing of the head is first reference of the gospel in respect to the suffering of Christ beforehand . All of the other beast of the field where made both male and female separately. The unique relationship was to be used as a parable or pattern to express Christ, our husband and us His bride. As out of the side came Eve, Adam's wife .Out the side of Christ our husband came His bride us (both and male and female) as one new creation. .
 
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popeye

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#34
Hey papp I have to admit because of how many people claim to know and understand the mark I was almost quick to discard your post without fully reading it but I read it anyways and looking at it from a non skeptical point of view I can understand why you think what you do about the mark and while I think you may be wrong I have no intention of mocking you and I certainly don't approve of the mocking you received we as Christians know better as we are called to love not mock.

However there is a major flaw in your understanding of the mark, those who bear the mark take it willingly and pledge their allegiance to the beast they worship him day and night and thus have turned their hearts against God with no return. If we who live in the united states have this mark then we are not of God or for God and we don't worship God either. When I was still new in faith God and I would have moments in which I would go into my room lay down on my bed in the dark and simply be with him and in this time at one point he and had a moment of the deepest intimacy we poured our deep love and deep endearment into each others hearts words spoken through the heart with no sound and no voice because only our hearts could express the depth of the love we felt towards another the human tongue could never speak of the depth of the love that our hearts could. in this time I saw his heart in my minds eye and in deep endearment I wrote the word mine on it and to my surprise at the very same time I saw him brand the word Mine on my forehead.

This was the Mark I received on my forehead that day one given to me and branded on my forehead with only the deepest love and endearment if being in the united states and using social security was the mark of the beast then God would not have marked me
Nice post.

What are you disagreeing with me on?

Or do I need to wake up? Lol
 
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popeye

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This is not true,for 666 in the Strong's Concordance,says 666 is three words,Chi Xi Stigma,which it goes to Stigma,which is interpreted as,to stick;prick,punch or incise,for recognition of one's ownership(identification of the person)scar of service(to antichrist)mark.

The mark in the Bible will be used for identification of the person,one world economic system,and will be used to cut down on crime.

The beast's agenda is that there is no personal God to help mankind,and people's technology,and devices,can bring peace to the world.

So the mark of the beast,has to do with technology,which would seem like it would be the microchip,which would be a GPS tracking system,linked to Satellite,with all information about them on the chip,and all financial records on the chip,with a picture of them that comes up on computer.

If a crime happens in a certain area,they will know who was in the area at that time,and the precise location of the people,and at what time,cutting down on crime considerably,and can find lost people,for people will fear to do a crime knowing they will be found out,and do not want to abandon the chip,for then they cannot buy or sell.

The first wrath of God poured upon the world causes a grievous sore to happen to everyone that took the mark,so it would appear as if it is a physical thing in their right hand,or forehead,for the definition is to stick,i.e.prick,which the microchip would be put under the skin with a hypodermic needle,and God will cause the chip to explode in their hand or forehead,shooting down the system that they trusted in.
Seems like it to me. It is in place already.
 
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popeye

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#36
No its something one of the corrupt U.S banks is doing, and to its customers which is why an Atorney was obtained and a long story but there was absolutely no wrong doing on our part. So no, it was not the Atorney himself (who is also getting the run around by their team of wolves) but of that bank that I asked whether it was owned by the devil in respects to its evil doing. May the LORD repay them.
Good news.

As Christians,we CAN NOT LOOSE. Nothing is lost. It only appears so.

What am I saying?

This. When we get ripped off,or do a bad business deal,money or something is " lost"

Nope.

Nothing is lost at all,because then,heaven WILL RESPOND. ,and a blessing,THAT NORMALLY WOULD NOT BE THERE,will come our way.

Ever see workers pouring cement ?

They MOVE THE CHUTE. Get it?

Tell those angels to "move the chute"
Tell them " you angels go get me finances"

I have been in business many years.
Like Paul I see both cycles. (feast and famine)

It is the best way. We see things get bad,and badder,and then even bad bad badder,then,here comes the blessing.

IOW,it is a ride. A glorious awesome ride. He meant for each of us to enjoy the ride.

The bad times are there for purpose,as are the times of plenty.

This is why sometimes we watch others blessed,while we seem to be forsaken.

See that? The forsaken is even to be enjoyed.

Nobody likes it,but it is true
 
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Hey papp I have to admit because of how many people claim to know and understand the mark I was almost quick to discard your post without fully reading it but I read it anyways and looking at it from a non skeptical point of view I can understand why you think what you do about the mark and while I think you may be wrong I have no intention of mocking you and I certainly don't approve of the mocking you received we as Christians know better as we are called to love not mock.

However there is a major flaw in your understanding of the mark, those who bear the mark take it willingly and pledge their allegiance to the beast they worship him day and night and thus have turned their hearts against God with no return. If we who live in the united states have this mark then we are not of God or for God and we don't worship God either. When I was still new in faith God and I would have moments in which I would go into my room lay down on my bed in the dark and simply be with him and in this time at one point he and had a moment of the deepest intimacy we poured our deep love and deep endearment into each others hearts words spoken through the heart with no sound and no voice because only our hearts could express the depth of the love we felt towards another the human tongue could never speak of the depth of the love that our hearts could. in this time I saw his heart in my minds eye and in deep endearment I wrote the word mine on it and to my surprise at the very same time I saw him brand the word Mine on my forehead.

This was the Mark I received on my forehead that day one given to me and branded on my forehead with only the deepest love and endearment if being in the united states and using social security was the mark of the beast then God would not have marked me
You misunderstand the election of God, those whom God has not chosen will remain ignorant, hence why even the Jews were ignorant that Jesus Christ was Lord, and why they crucified him,

None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. (1 Corinthians 2:8 [ESV])
And this is related to this prophecy,

He said, "Go and tell this people: "'Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.' Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed." (Isaiah 6:9-10 [NIV])
Whoever God has not chosen, he hardens and consigns to ignorance to not know nor understand. So it stands to reason, that all those who receive the mark, will not know they have received it, because if they had known, they would have refused it. The reason God consigns to ignorance is to bring forth fulfillment of what he intends to do on the earth, and it is to bring forth judgment and devastation, if he hadn't first set aside men to punish, then there would be no need for judgment and devastation. But because his will is to demonstrate his power in all the earth, does he then harden hearts and blind the eyes of men, to not know what they are doing.

As far as the elect are concerned, they in wisdom understand what is happening, hence,

Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand. (Daniel 12:10 [NIV])
The financial systems in the United States are exceedingly wicked, and participation in its usurious practices is having the mark of the beast, because the practices are based on sin, and it is the sin of usury. Many brush it off, but usury is an abomination to God.
 
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:smoke: ahem este all of you here knows that the written scriptures
about the number of the beast comes from the bible itself
MEANING TO GET THE REAL COUNTS OF THE BEAST
IS TO SEARCH IT ALSO IN THE SCRIPTURES
... . like this example
as it is written
:read:
Ezra: 4. 13.
Be it known now unto the king, that, if this city be builded, and the walls set up again, then will they not pay toll, tribute, and custom, and so thou shalt endamage the revenue of the kings.

14. Now because we have maintenance from the king's palace, and it was not meet for us to see the king's dishonour, therefore have we sent and certified the king;

15. That search may be made in the book of the records of thy fathers: so shalt thou find in the book of the records, and know that this city is a rebellious city, and hurtful unto kings and provinces, and that they have moved sedition within the same of old time: for which cause was this city destroyed.

16. We certify the king that, if this city be builded again, and the walls thereof set up, by this means thou shalt have no portion on this side the river.
17. Then sent the king an answer unto Rehum the chancellor, and to Shimshai the scribe, and to the rest of their companions that dwell in Samaria, and unto the rest beyond the river, Peace, and at such a time.

18. The letter which ye sent unto us hath been plainly read before me.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 

Dan_473

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:smoke: ahem este all of you here knows that the written scriptures
about the number of the beast comes from the bible itself
MEANING TO GET THE REAL COUNTS OF THE BEAST
IS TO SEARCH IT ALSO IN THE SCRIPTURES
... . like this example
as it is written
:read:
Ezra: 4. 13.
Be it known now unto the king, that, if this city be builded, and the walls set up again, then will they not pay toll, tribute, and custom, and so thou shalt endamage the revenue of the kings.

14. Now because we have maintenance from the king's palace, and it was not meet for us to see the king's dishonour, therefore have we sent and certified the king;

15. That search may be made in the book of the records of thy fathers: so shalt thou find in the book of the records, and know that this city is a rebellious city, and hurtful unto kings and provinces, and that they have moved sedition within the same of old time: for which cause was this city destroyed.

16. We certify the king that, if this city be builded again, and the walls thereof set up, by this means thou shalt have no portion on this side the river.
17. Then sent the king an answer unto Rehum the chancellor, and to Shimshai the scribe, and to the rest of their companions that dwell in Samaria, and unto the rest beyond the river, Peace, and at such a time.

18. The letter which ye sent unto us hath been plainly read before me.

:ty:

godbless us all always

GENESIS 2:7 And the Lord God made man from the dust of the earth, breathing into him the breath of life: and man became a living soul.


NEHEMIAH 2:14 Then I went on to the spring gate and to the king’s pool: but there was no place for the animal that was under me to pass.
 

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And blessings upon you, uk