9/11 Miracle Mattress

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CharlieGrown

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Sure it was a tragedy but eventually people should quit harping on it and bringing it up every five days.
The thing is, we are in a different reality because of that day. Almost every aspect of life in the U.S. and elsewhere changed direction.
 
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Ultimatum77

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I don't think that those who died would want or expect us to allow these events to vastly affect our lives, already it does in so many ways. I think it should be marked annually and the dead should be remembered and respected always. When we choose to erase such events from our minds we are in danger of forgetting it and therefore to be off our guard.

Some groups are already in denial of the atrocities that happened during WWII and also WWI. Some political organisations would love nothing more than for us to forget what the Nazi's did. It should never be forgotten.
Idk, I think we should learn from history but not dwell on it, b/c yea the Holocaust was horrible but it was over 70 years ago.... it does not immediately affect our lives in the current generation as it has the previous two....and a lot of people use it as a cover for political agendas so much that if you criticize a jew they immediately say "oh we suffered during teh holocaust" to prop up their argument...(this has happened when I discussed palestine for example with a jewish guy)....one point about Jews suffering during the holocaust does not excuse their genocide of palestinians (including palestine orthodox christians)....one fact does not relate to another ...is what I'm saying....

Same thing with 9/11 was it horrible yes...but so many people used it as their stump to support war mongering, increased spying in the name of security, and used it as a fear tactic to scare the public into submission/censorship....I personally do not buy the whole 9/11 story but that's another topic....I do agree that innocent people lost their lives but the tale that was told has too many holes for my liking....

Don't let 9/11 blind you with fear to the point of losing your rights by handing them over all for "safety" ....
 
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Should we really waste our time beating stuff to death? Seems like everything has to be this big controversy all the time. It's like watching days of our lives in 3d lol. We humans thrive on negativity and pushing each others buttons. Who is worse I wonder....the button pushers or button pushee's. I think it's the puhsee's, because if they were smart enough to realize that they actually have control over the button they could actually find some real authentic joy and connection with other human beings.....which is sort of what we were intended for....connection that is. I think that is what God was going for. To make something that He could connect with. Anyway, that's just sorta what I'm feeling about all that today.

Not only that...but when you stop letting your button get pushed, it sort of takes the power away from the pusher. I've never seen the commercial. Don't really want too.
 

PennEd

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The video was awful til it got to the part where the guys knock down the mattresses and she laughingly screams in hysteria, THEN it was nothing short of an outrage.

All I keep thinking about is the multitude of people that thought the BETTER option was to jump off the world trade center than be burned alive.

Even 75 yrs later, would a mattress commercial using the setting of Auschwitz be even slightly appropriate or funny?
 
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Ultimatum77

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The video was awful til it got to the part where the guys knock down the mattresses and she laughingly screams in hysteria, THEN it was nothing short of an outrage.

All I keep thinking about is the multitude of people that thought the BETTER option was to jump off the world trade center than be burned alive.

Even 75 yrs later, would a mattress commercial using the setting of Auschwitz be even slightly appropriate or funny?

I do agree, the commercial was bad taste and very bad PR move for their business..
 

blue_ladybug

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9/11 deserves to be remembered.. Just saying. The perpetrators (USG) of it will be uncovered and exposed some day soon. The bible says so.
 
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Ultimatum77

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Sorry I totally disagree. What about Flanders Fields? The Tomb of the Unknown Solider, the Holocaust? The are memorials,there are days that need to be observed and respected. This generation needs to learn empathy. Whats one day out of the year to remember tragedy? Its nothing. Remember the fallen. Its not difficult. If it was your family member that had died in such a horrific way you would want people to remember.

I guess we have a different perspective over here b/c there were events that happened here where a lot of people died, but there was no memorial or anything, it's just part of life and most people just move on after a short period of grief....I guess it's a cultural thing....we just don't like to dwell on death/memorials i guess :)

I'll use the 2004 tsunami as an example, where thousands died but there is no memorial/celebration....it happened and people moved on ....
 
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MadParrotWoman

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I guess we have a different perspective over here b/c there were events that happened here where a lot of people died, but there was no memorial or anything, it's just part of life and most people just move on after a short period of grief....I guess it's a cultural thing....we just don't like to dwell on death/memorials i guess :)

I'll use the 2004 tsunami as an example, where thousands died but there is no memorial/celebration....it happened and people moved on ....
That is completely different - it was a natural disaster and yes they happen.
 

blue_ladybug

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I guess we have a different perspective over here b/c there were events that happened here where a lot of people died, but there was no memorial or anything, it's just part of life and most people just move on after a short period of grief....I guess it's a cultural thing....we just don't like to dwell on death/memorials i guess :)

I'll use the 2004 tsunami as an example, where thousands died but there is no memorial/celebration....it happened and people moved on ....
They may have moved on, but I guarantee they have NOT forgotten those tsunami victims..
 
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Ultimatum77

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They may have moved on, but I guarantee they have NOT forgotten those tsunami victims..
Sure I can agree with that, but for most who have not been affected by it (no relatives/friends lost) they probably don't think about it as often....I guess if it hits home then it's a little more "fresh" for a lack of a better term on your mind then if it was an outside event (outside of your immediate circle/life)...
 

PennEd

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I guess we have a different perspective over here b/c there were events that happened here where a lot of people died, but there was no memorial or anything, it's just part of life and most people just move on after a short period of grief....I guess it's a cultural thing....we just don't like to dwell on death/memorials i guess :)

I'll use the 2004 tsunami as an example, where thousands died but there is no memorial/celebration....it happened and people moved on ....
I don't mean to be offensive, but there seems to be much less a sense of the value of life in the middle east, India, and the orient.

I remember my father telling me about how little the Koreans valued life while he fought the Korean War. They seemed to brush off the deaths of multitudes very easily. It may be a cultural thing, but most Americans, especially conservative Americans, highly regard human life.
 
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Ultimatum77

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I don't mean to be offensive, but there seems to be much less a sense of the value of life in the middle east, India, and the orient.

I remember my father telling me about how little the Koreans valued life while he fought the Korean War. They seemed to brush off the deaths of multitudes very easily. It may be a cultural thing, but most Americans, especially conservative Americans, highly regard human life.
Lol, no not at all you don't offend me brother...what you said is the truth! There is no value for life here in general which can be a detriment in other's not respecting other's rights to live with the only good being that death here is not dwelt on as much b/c of the lack of concern....it's weird dynamic for sure....
 
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I don't mean to be offensive, but there seems to be much less a sense of the value of life in the middle east, India, and the orient.

I remember my father telling me about how little the Koreans valued life while he fought the Korean War. They seemed to brush off the deaths of multitudes very easily. It may be a cultural thing, but most Americans, especially conservative Americans, highly regard human life.
So true... at least for Korea. My very first day there, we were driving high above, and parallel with a river. We could see that a girl was being swept downstream, and not one soul lifted a finger. They stood and watched till she went down for the last time, then they turned, and went back to what they were doing.
 
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KimPetras

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What I find more offensive than this trashy commercial is the fact people voted for Bush AFTER 9/11.
 
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Ultimatum77

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What I find more offensive than this trashy commercial is the fact people voted for Bush AFTER 9/11.
Yup he hurt America the most out of any president before him, obama has carried the torch as well to further the debt....
 
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What I find more offensive than this trashy commercial is the fact people voted for Bush AFTER 9/11.
True, but presidents are selected by the elite. So regardless of who anyone votes for the elite will choose the president they want to carry out their agendas
 
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CharlieGrown

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Revelation of the method.

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