"replacement theology" - what is it?

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maxwel

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My seminary prof used to say, "There is no Plan B for the Jews."

In other words, we are all saved by grace through faith!
Angela,

My seminary professor used to say,
"If Angela is an evangelical Baptist, why does she spout so much reformed theology?"

Love you!
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Really??? That's totally false... non Jews cannot be Israelites

Bottom line... those that curse Israel (as in supporting Palestinians) are cursed as God said that in the OT and He never changes. He still loves Israel and it's the apple of His eye.

I'd be very, very careful if I were you on supporting the Palestinians over the Jews.
Ugh, and there you have it..

"Non-Jews cannot be Israelites"

Displacement Theology at its ugliest

Try, Ephraim, Mannessah, Dan, Issachar, Naphthali, Reuben, Levi, etc, etc
 
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The New Covenant was made with Israel. We as gentiles are grafted in.
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JER. 31:31.
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel,
and with the house of Judah:

HEB. 8:10.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord;
I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God,
and they shall be to me a people:

ROM. 11:25.
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel,
until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
 

notuptome

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Zechariah 12:10
"I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.

DONE ^^^ they looked upon him and mourned him; and the Holy Spirit was poured out on Israel at Pentecost. then the gentiles were called
Please they called for His blood to be upon them and their children.

No when they see Him descend through the clouds and enter Jerusalem through the East gate then they will see Him as He was promised and receive Him as their conquering King.

Keep looking up.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

notuptome

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My seminary prof used to say, "There is no Plan B for the Jews."

In other words, we are all saved by grace through faith!
True statement. Jews in the OT were saved by grace through faith.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Desertsrose

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Try 4 you think are important then
We can begin with Jeremiah 31
31“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to them,”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”


35 This is what the Lord says,
he who appoints the sun
to shine by day,
who decrees the moon and stars
to shine by night,
who stirs up the sea
so that its waves roar—
the Lord Almighty is his name:
36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,”
declares the Lord,
“will Israel ever cease
being a nation before me.”


37 This is what the Lord says:
“Only if the heavens above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,”
declares the Lord.


 

tanakh

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Have you never heard of Messianic Jews?
A vast majority of those who call themselves Messianic Jews are not Jewish. There are Jews who have accepted Christ as saviour and can be found in Churches
 

Bladerunner

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Question: "What is replacement theology / supersessionism?"

Answer: Replacement theology (also known as supersessionism) essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. Adherents of replacement theology believe the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people, and God does not have specific future plans for the nation of Israel. Among the different views of the relationship between the church and Israel are the church has replaced Israel (replacement theology), the church is an expansion of Israel (covenant theology), or the church is completely different and distinct from Israel (dispensationalism/premillennialism).

https://www.gotquestions.org/replacement-theology.html
"We dispensationalists believe that the church has superseded Israel during the current church age, but God has a future time in which He will restore national Israel ‘as the institution for the administration of divine blessings to the world.’” In other words, dispensationalists admit that Replacement Theology is, at least temporarily, the will of God!""


Think you had better start reading the Bible literally and rethink the above words. There is no replacement Theology from God. He will again turn his attention to His chosen people after the Rapture (removal of the Church) happens.

I went to your churches website and the first thing I noticed was the "You can’t be a Christian without the Church.". I am sorry but the individual Christian IS the Church. They, the Christian need no denomination to be saved through Jesus Christ.

You have a lot of things it appears that you need to rethink. Good Luck!
 

Angela53510

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Angela,

My seminary professor used to say,
"If Angela is an evangelical Baptist, why does she spout so much reformed theology?"

Love you!
:)

LOL! I guess you have never heard of Reformed Southern Baptists? We have actual Reformed conventions in each province under the Canadian National Baptists (Used to be CSBC) that have their own meetings and doctrine, but still are Baptists. Weird hey? I thought this also happened in the US.

Oh wait! You mean I am not a Fundamentalist Baptist? Right again! LOL
 

maxwel

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LOL! I guess you have never heard of Reformed Southern Baptists? We have actual Reformed conventions in each province under the Canadian National Baptists (Used to be CSBC) that have their own meetings and doctrine, but still are Baptists. Weird hey? I thought this also happened in the US.

Oh wait! You mean I am not a Fundamentalist Baptist? Right again! LOL
So you're a Reformed Southern Canadian Baptist...

I'll pray for your soul.

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That promise, which was to all Israel, not just the Jews, has been fulfilled Desertsrose
We can begin with Jeremiah 31
31“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to them,”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”


35 This is what the Lord says,
he who appoints the sun
to shine by day,
who decrees the moon and stars
to shine by night,
who stirs up the sea
so that its waves roar—
the Lord Almighty is his name:
36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,”
declares the Lord,
“will Israel ever cease
being a nation before me.”


37 This is what the Lord says:
“Only if the heavens above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,”
declares the Lord.

 
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Please they called for His blood to be upon them and their children.

No when they see Him descend through the clouds and enter Jerusalem through the East gate then they will see Him as He was promised and receive Him as their conquering King.

Keep looking up.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
True statement. Jews in the OT were saved by grace through faith.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Apparently not everybody is or will be saved by grace thru faith then ? Because faith is the substance of things hoped for ... the evidence of things not seen. But the Israel that is "separate from the church" will believe "after they have seen" our glorified King in all His splendour and majesty return in the clouds ? Interesting. So much for it being impossible to please God without faith I suppose. And glorified spiritual bodies will live alongside non-glorified fleshly bodies for the course of one-thousand years in an earthly Jerusalem ruled by Christ sitting on the throne of David ? Will Jesus, our great High Priest be performing the animal sacrifices Himself in the new earthly temple ? I'm sitting here wondering how many times a nation will refuse to go up to the temple once a year to worship Him after not having received any rain afterwards .. resulting in no crops or food to eat ? Maybe once, but after that, I'm thinking they'll have learned their lesson. Let's hope so anyways because that would be an awful time for them in what's supposed to be an earthly paradise, wouldn't it ? Are we in spirit bodies going to live in physical/ tangible homes like those in their fleshly bodies ? If Jesus is living and reigning in a physical temple, I'd have to think that we'll be in a physical structure as well. I suppose this isn't relevant. And one day after the one-thousand years is over, Satan will be loosed to deceive those in the flesh who have just lived a millennium in the presence of our glorified God and King ? Boy o' boy ... these people sure are dumb. I can't help but wonder what more they would be hoping for after living in the perfect peace and immeasurable comfort, safety and love of our Saviour ? I can only garner that being in the very presence of God Himself just wasn't cutting it for them. What a bummer. And weapons ? Any idea on what type of weapons these armies are hoping to use with their devious plan to attack Jerusalem after this millennium ? I mean .. what happened to plough shares and pruning hooks ? There were no wars or conflict for one-thousand years so it doesn't make sense to me that anybody would have even bothered with any weaponry. Then again, who knows ? Satan will likely dupe those fleshly dummies into thinking they can build an astro-bomb or something that will destroy the spirit bodies as well. What sense in killing those in the flesh only to be left with the task of having to deal with us spirit beings that you've just lived one-thousand years with as well ? And ruling over you at that. Oh well. Who are we to question ? And on and on I could go.
 
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They were never going to inherit anything. The mystery from the beginning was Christ to bring in the gentiles(while keeping some Jews). Children of faith, Sarah son.. No I don't follow what you say BC it seems to not follow itself
Galatians 4

21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise.

24Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants.

One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,

“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”

28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.




I know you've never actually read the above passage.
God is using the allegorical names of sarah and hagar to TEACH the jews and gentiles that the OLD COVENANT [which] is Hagar. that the Israelits were slaves of the old covenant, in bondage.

paul said to cast out those in Hagar....that they will NOT inherit....the old covenant was REPLACED by the NEW.
please read it until you see it has zero to do with Ishmael.
and that Christians are Sarah (set free in Christ with new Jerusalem in mind)
 

notmyown

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huh. i thought 'replacement theology' was a pejorative term invented by i don't know who?
to, em, replace Covenant Theology. lol

because there's been no real replacement, merely a continuation of the people of God throughout the ages, those whom God has saved by grace through faith.

I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he appeals to God against Israel?
“Lord, they have killed your prophets, they have demolished your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life.” But what is God’s reply to him? “I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”

So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. (Rom 11:1-6)
 
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LaurenTM

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one side forces an interpretation one way and the other side forces it another

blah blah blah

and then some are partial or full preterist which of course forces an entire other view

and then, so I recently learned in another thread, some believe the Bible is a story book with most of it being written in figurative language...which of course is the preterist view...and we are living in the 1000 reign of Christ

and everyone is right of course

and everyone else is wrong of course

thank God, God is still in charge and not you lot

for the record, I am not into replacement theology and I believe the Bible is NOT a story book

do carry on...you can't make this stuff up

it is good reading for inducing nightmares though...and thoroughly explains the reason there is a famine of the word
 

notmyown

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and then, so I recently learned in another thread, some believe the Bible is a story book with most of it being written in figurative language...
i wouldn't say 'most'...

the Bible isn't just one book, it's 66 books with different literary genres.
law, history, poetry, wisdom literature, prophecy, Gospel, epistles and apocalyptic.
(i think that about covers it :))

not all genres in the Bible are written the same way, and aren't meant to be understood the same way.
some are quite literal, and some are not. :)
 
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LaurenTM

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i wouldn't say 'most'...

the Bible isn't just one book, it's 66 books with different literary genres.
law, history, poetry, wisdom literature, prophecy, Gospel, epistles and apocalyptic.
(i think that about covers it :))

not all genres in the Bible are written the same way, and aren't meant to be understood the same way.
some are quite literal, and some are not. :)

hey~

I'm aware of the metaphors...but I don't think the flood was localized

I've got that one thank you

I can't state all I know in one post, right? would you even read it if I did? LOL!

you are only pointing out the obvious...which basically all denoms might agree on

I am not that dense, so let's not try to say I am

thanks!

this is what was reflected in the post you think you gleaned hidden knowledge as to my lack of understanding (not)

some believe the Bible is a story book with most of it being written in figurative language
the word 'some' there actually is the operative defining subject...some...

as in some people...
 
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LaurenTM

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ran out of time in my edit

I NEVER said most...I said SOME people believe this:

i wouldn't say 'most'...

some some some some some some

got it?
 
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i wouldn't say 'most'...

the Bible isn't just one book, it's 66 books with different literary genres.
law, history, poetry, wisdom literature, prophecy, Gospel, epistles and apocalyptic.
(i think that about covers it :))

not all genres in the Bible are written the same way, and aren't meant to be understood the same way.
some are quite literal, and some are not. :)
I think "most" would agree with you :cool:
 
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LaurenTM

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reading comprehension is at an all time low

I actually had to understand what I was reading when I went to University..........