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Am curious to ask everyone their thoughts on what the purpose of our life is to be after our new birth?
Debating doctrine?
Debating doctrine?
The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us. 28‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’[SUP]b[/SUP] As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’[SUP]c[/SUP]
Our purpose in Christ...Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world MAY BELIEVE that thou hast SENT ME..22And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Let's Jesus answer the question He says;KJVSt.Matthew5;14-16 14.Ye are the light of the World.A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.15.Neither do men light a candle,and put it under a bushel,but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.16.Let you light so shine before men,that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
I have a different understanding of our purpose. We all know that GOD created angels before man and third of them headed by Lucifer were sent here on earth but they staged a rebellion against GOD and were thrown back to earth. My understanding why GOD created man was to replace the rebellious angels who are now demonic spirits lead by Satan who was Lucifer. That's why Satan cannot accept the purpose in man and will try his hardest to frustrate that purpose. He succeeded in Adam and Eve, He succeeded by making the Israelites to rebel against GOD as His chosen people, and tried his best to make The LORD CHRIST JESUS fail HIS undertaking to bring salvation to man. We are here on earth to proclaim and declare, rule and reign in HIS Kingdom as HIS priest and ruler in the mighty and holy name of JESUS until HIS return.
Our purpose is to live with the new covenant.
In Acts 15 it explains how Peter and Paul turned our world upside down. It took the God who only the Hebrews knew and showed the gentiles the true God accepted them, also.
Christ made it possible. Gentiles looked at the rites of the Jews and said "those Jews are strange". Circumcision, diet, not even speaking to a gentile--it kept gentiles away from accepting God. Those things were given by God to help people live by the spiritual laws. Now, the Holy Spirit would help them.
In Jeremiah we are told this covenant is with Israel. (31:30) "Here, the days are coming," says Adonai, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Isra'el and with the house of Y'hudah.
In Romans we are told we are a branch of Israel.
In Ezekiel we are told what the new covenant is: Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
Eze 37:25
And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
Eze 37:26
Foreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
Eze 37:27
My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
In Acts 15 it explains how Peter and Paul turned our world upside down. It took the God who only the Hebrews knew and showed the gentiles the true God accepted them, also.
Christ made it possible. Gentiles looked at the rites of the Jews and said "those Jews are strange". Circumcision, diet, not even speaking to a gentile--it kept gentiles away from accepting God. Those things were given by God to help people live by the spiritual laws. Now, the Holy Spirit would help them.
In Jeremiah we are told this covenant is with Israel. (31:30) "Here, the days are coming," says Adonai, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Isra'el and with the house of Y'hudah.
In Romans we are told we are a branch of Israel.
In Ezekiel we are told what the new covenant is: Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
Eze 37:25
And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
Eze 37:26
Foreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
Eze 37:27
My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
I noticed & based on my observation that each & everyone here seems to have a different purpose, which only mean that there is really a division in the church(1cor chapter 3) which do not conform to what is written in ephesians 4:3-6.” Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called— one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.” NOW, my question is, would the act of doing what you believe your purpose is, SAVE YOU? Can man be saved by his own works which is according to his own purpose or by the grace of God according to His purpose? I believe that the creator(whether man and esp. God) knows best his purpose for creating something.
A true Christian who died in the flesh(sinful nature) and born again in the spirit, have subjected (surrendered/ submitted) himself to God and is therefore under God’s control and authority unless he rebels against Him and insist his own will, just like what Lucifer did
A true Christian who died in the flesh(sinful nature) and born again in the spirit, have subjected (surrendered/ submitted) himself to God and is therefore under God’s control and authority unless he rebels against Him and insist his own will, just like what Lucifer did
Interesting comment Ben. I've thought much about this scripture...it says unity in the knowledge of the Son. We all seem to have different understandings, then I received this word about God doing things in threes.
That the temple was of three levels and we have Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles. If we can get us all to receive one another is the level we are at...perhaps we will have this unity?
Its really not off topic either...our purpose would be for this. IMO
That the temple was of three levels and we have Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles. If we can get us all to receive one another is the level we are at...perhaps we will have this unity?
Its really not off topic either...our purpose would be for this. IMO
“ If a man cleanses himself from the latter(wickedness), he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work. Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive TO DO HIS WILL.”(2tim 2:21-26) By the power of God “who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of HIS OWN PURPOSE AND GRACE. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,”(2tim 1:9
Let God be true and everyone a liar. Pardon me brother but i'm just wondering why there should be chaos, rebellion, wars & strife everywhere if we have one purpose in this life. There is division if we all pursue our personal purpose rather than the uniting purpose of God through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.New International Version 1984 Ephesians 4:12-16 to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
The Bible says our purpose in life is to please God- which happens by obeying Him. And He said to go teach the gospel. We are to show God to others by words and actions, like it says in the following song...
SONG:
"My hands are the Lord's hands- without me how can His work be done?
I will do what He would do, with loving kindness in my touch,
I'll be His healing hands to everyone.
My mouth is the Lord's mouth, without me how can a His Will be done?
I will say what He would say, speaking love and life each day,
And everyone who's near will hear His Word.
My feet are the Lord's feet, without me how can He walk with the poor?
I will go where He would go, blessing others as I do.
For Him I'll walk where I've never walked before.
Help me Lord, let me give to my neighbor what You would give if You were here.
Help me Lord, let me love so my neighbor will always know that You are here."
SONG:
"My hands are the Lord's hands- without me how can His work be done?
I will do what He would do, with loving kindness in my touch,
I'll be His healing hands to everyone.
My mouth is the Lord's mouth, without me how can a His Will be done?
I will say what He would say, speaking love and life each day,
And everyone who's near will hear His Word.
My feet are the Lord's feet, without me how can He walk with the poor?
I will go where He would go, blessing others as I do.
For Him I'll walk where I've never walked before.
Help me Lord, let me give to my neighbor what You would give if You were here.
Help me Lord, let me love so my neighbor will always know that You are here."
We don't seem to agree, and there is only one narrow way. Something is wrong or we would be in agreement.
After I had walked with the Lord for years it occurred to me that I must be wrong in my understanding. I read again what happened on Mt Sinai, then read again the book of Galatians. God said the "law of Moses" (or the law given to Moses) was forever and Galatians disagreed. My understanding had to be incorrect, and I was determined to find out the truth from the Lord. Took me several months!
What I was doing wrong, I found, was to go by the NT without the training in God principles first. That is like studying the end of any book that is the fulfillment of the beginning without knowing the beginning. I think that is what today's church is doing. Our church today and the church as Acts tells us or as it is described in the dead sea scrolls have little in common. All the people in that church knew their scripture, few Christians today understand it. It speaks of a culture with Hebrew ways of thinking and doing. Thousands of years separate us. I think that is why the Lord had us find the dead sea scrolls, it was to bring knowledge of that culture to us so we could understand.
After I had walked with the Lord for years it occurred to me that I must be wrong in my understanding. I read again what happened on Mt Sinai, then read again the book of Galatians. God said the "law of Moses" (or the law given to Moses) was forever and Galatians disagreed. My understanding had to be incorrect, and I was determined to find out the truth from the Lord. Took me several months!
What I was doing wrong, I found, was to go by the NT without the training in God principles first. That is like studying the end of any book that is the fulfillment of the beginning without knowing the beginning. I think that is what today's church is doing. Our church today and the church as Acts tells us or as it is described in the dead sea scrolls have little in common. All the people in that church knew their scripture, few Christians today understand it. It speaks of a culture with Hebrew ways of thinking and doing. Thousands of years separate us. I think that is why the Lord had us find the dead sea scrolls, it was to bring knowledge of that culture to us so we could understand.
Jesus said in John 16:33, “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
1 John 5:1-5(ESV)
5 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. 4 For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 5 Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
1 John 5:1-5(ESV)
5 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. 4 For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 5 Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
Thank you so much for the info, i appreciate your eagerness to seek the truth just as all of us here. Just want to share some good points of truth in the bible such as this:New International Version 1984 Hebrews 8:6-13 But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, and it is founded on better promises. For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. But God found fault with the people and said: “The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I turned away from them, declares the Lord. This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.” By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.