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trofimus

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Well you never know, two parents of average human height can produce a 8'11" tall giant. Not sure if this person still holds the record.

Such tall humans are always poor beings who need intensive medical attention, who are in a lot of pain, who die very early and have a huge problem with any moving.

Not the case of the biblical giants.
 

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Short 1 min vid of high school basketball player who is 7'6". It pains me to watch him run. He is only 190 pounds.
Hopefully he will develop and get healthier.

[video=youtube;yfk-Bpap7ZU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfk-Bpap7ZU[/video]
 
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Such tall humans are always poor beings who need intensive medical attention, who are in a lot of pain, who die very early and have a huge problem with any moving.

Not the case of the biblical giants.
Well after the small size beings of David and his servents got done with the four Giant descendants of the one in Gath. surely they were in need of medical attention hahaha..
 
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Angels don't have the power to create anything, not to mention DNA and reproductive genetics the complications of that are scientifically mind boggling and are only capabilities that God could create......Satan and his angels seek to blind your mind they don't care about human women they are spiritual beings and have no hormones that can be activated by such nonsense.
Ok lets look at some facts together and then be the judge..

I know it verry hard for people to understand the genetics of spiritual beings. One thing you can be sure of is they are an entity..an independent existence..

Lets look at the facts now

1 God is spirit God is invisable to the human eye unless he wants to be seen..

God born of spirit in mary (something genetic went on for this to occur. (Genetic indentity cloning)

God appeared as just a hand in the book of daniel.. and wrote on the wall...(Genetic Identity cloning)

Satan can appear as an angel of light and a snake ( genetic identity cloning)...

Three angels appeard to lot and ate and drank with him as humans... (genetic identity cloning)

I saw a spirit demon tak up the exact resemblance of my friend and change appearance befor my eyes.. (Genetic D.n.A cloning..

In order for a spirit to clone the exact resemblance of your friend they have to know the D.N.A CODING OF A PERSON... WHY because we are all diifrent in our d.n.a coding... D.N.A is what makes everyone look diffrent and have diffrent finger prints..

You can not exactly clone something or someone without knowing its true genetic coding... its impossible to do so any other way..

And when i say the spirit i saw took up the exact resemblance of my friend it had me fooled until i sussed it when it changed appearance.

In order for satan to clone him self as a snake he has to know its d.n.a coding.. fact.

Now if angels can possess you they can certainly get your d.n.a coding.. A spirit that can take over a body is super natural and higly intelligent..

Now angels can evolve to they can become more intelligent like mankind has... Whos to say they havent found a way to plant and breed there spirits in our women.. if they can do all this 4 thousand years a go just imagine what there capable of now

They can and will appear as a childs best friend..
They can and will appear as humans snakes hands..

dinosaws exinct..

giants exinct..

Soon mankind exinct.. end of or maybe not..
 
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interesting about the four Giants in 2 Sam 21
Named Ishbi-benob, Saph, Goliath the Gittite, and the no name one with the six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot.

I guess the forth one had no name. I'll call him Mr. SixPack
 
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Well that depends on what manuscript is used, Goliath's stature as described in various ancient manuscripts varies: the oldest manuscripts—the Dead Sea Scrolls text of Samuel, the 1st century historian Josephus, and the 4th century Septuagint manuscripts—all give his height as "four cubits and a span" (6 feet 9 inches or 2.06 metres) whereas the Masoretic Text gives this as "six cubits and a span" (9 feet 9 inches or 2.97 metres. Either case he was just a very tall Palestine, nothing to do with the six fingers and six toes giant Nephilims.

For humor lol..
[video=youtube;VzsfyxACV7M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzsfyxACV7M[/video]

Perhaps the best part of the whole movie....HAH
 
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the clues are in our animals too animals that can clone there surroundings [video=youtube;PmDTtkZlMwM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmDTtkZlMwM[/video]
 

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Well you never know, two parents of average human height can produce a 8'11" tall giant. Not sure if this person still holds the record.

Could she have been impregnated by aliens and then had her memory wiped?
 
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Perhaps the best part of the whole movie....HAH
That was a pretty good scene he walked right through that dude. there was a few others scenes that where pretty good.

[video=youtube;NQ62frK74u0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ62frK74u0[/video]
 
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I'm not refuting that people live longer than 120 years these days. What I'm saying is that people don't commonly wait until they are over one hundred to start a family. As well, I'm talking about people living to be one thousand years of age. The life expectancy dialed down gradually after the flood, not immediately, which accounts for giants after the flood. What am I missing?
Does you line of thought bear out? So....the Giants during the time of Joshua and Caleb or David....they did not have the longevity of life.....so....that throws a monkey wrench in this line of thinking....
 
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That was a pretty good scene he walked right through that dude. there was a few others scenes that where pretty good.

[video=youtube;NQ62frK74u0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ62frK74u0[/video]

Yeah another good fight scene......I remember in 84 watching Conan the Barbarian......and a few other movies.....
 
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More evidence of genetic identity cloning...

[video=youtube;xxnIrI4LTzQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxnIrI4LTzQ[/video]
 
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Well, if simply stating the different types of angels the Bible describes makes me brilliant, then so be it.

Too bad we cannot trade in the likes for value coupons.

I have no idea why you responded as you did. This is not the only forum or Christian forum on the net. You may need to get out more.
It started out piggybacking on the point that you stated about people ignoring the obvious. The rest I just added based on the observation that everybody comes hear to teach and few to learn. I was being sarcastic but you are right, I do need to get out more.
 
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Does you line of thought bear out? So....the Giants during the time of Joshua and Caleb or David....they did not have the longevity of life.....so....that throws a monkey wrench in this line of thinking....
Does it state their ages? Monkey wrench indeed. I'm not afraid to admit being wrong, that's a very valid point. Thanks.
 
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Ching-Yun (simplified Chinese: 李清云; traditional Chinese: 李清雲; pinyin: Lǐ Qīngyún; died 6 May 1933) was a Chinese herbalist, martial artist and tactical advisor, known for his supposed extreme longevity. He claimed to be born in 1736, while disputed records suggest 1677. Both claimed lifespans of 197 and 256 years, far exceeding the longest confirmed lifespan of 122 years.

He was into those long finger nails thing.. Not my cup of tea lol

 
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Yeah another good fight scene......I remember in 84 watching Conan the Barbarian......and a few other movies.....
Thats the sadest fight ever a true honorable brave man who lost his life with dignity.
 
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There are different kinds of angels. They have different appearances and are assigned different roles.
Angels are ministering spirits they have no appearance (no form, invisable ) and is why they need a form to draw men away from God who also has no form. (we walk by faith) They are described as anti-christs. Like the example of Peter used as one of the antichrists, influenced by the antichrist, Satan. This is when Peter denied the Lord of glory of finishing the work he started, the gospel.

Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mat 16:22

It’s the same methodology the anti-christ Satan used in the garden and uses today taking on the form of a creature.... insisting we do need a man( outward form) to teach us in order to draw men away from God who promised to send the comforter, not seen as to who will teach us guide us into his truth and remind of of what he has taught us. .. .

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life."These things have I written unto you concerning them" that seduce you.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 1Jo 2:18

Satan is not a lying ministering spirit. He is a liar though. He does not minister. I think you need to look up the meaning of the word minister. The part that is a verb; not a noun.
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I think 2 Corinthians 11 speaks to that issue.

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 2Co 11:15
 
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You do not have a scripture to prove me wrong. And I do not have one to prove you incorrect.
Neither of us know for sure.

Still, my argument that people pre flood were very different then us post flood folks is true. My point that they could have just waited until they were older holds a lot of weight. In actuality if you live to be 700 but waited until 80 to have kids, your still making more kids then we are today.
So what group of people is more obedient to Gods command to multiply?

Honestly, your replies while cordial, are the reason why I generally stay off here. And not because you disagree with me. I am fine with that.

I just consider anyone who does not reply directly to valid points made, as you have done, to be people who not only have weak arguments, but also posters who ignore others arguments and go in circles enough times that it is fruitless and useless to put out any more conversation.
Instead of it becoming a entertaining and interesting exchange of ideas all its about is a poster just egotistically and arrogantly trying to drive their points home just for the sake of winning an argument.

That is useless to me.

If you had actually replied directly to my points in a reasonable fashion then I would have considered it a exchange of valid ideas, even if we did not disagree, and would have found it enjoyable and engaging and may have learned something.

All I (re) learned is that people here repeat themselves ad nauseam without making new points, without citing sources, and ignore valid and factual arguments, or ignore points made that may not be fact but have a strong implication for truth based on biblical sources.
I also learned that people here rarely if ever validate that the person with the opposing opinion may have a strong or valid counter point.

It is like a war zone here with a take no prisoner attitudes.

Which is a shame, because even among Christians who disagree their should be a camaraderie and bond among Christians that is common.

The only difference here from the world is that we don't curse or threaten, but the spirit is strikingly similar to the worlds.
Im not exactly disagreeing with you. I'm trying to understand why you are disagreeing with me, whether it was fact or opinion. I fully base my theory on opinion. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just trying to clarify what makes it wrong. Sorry to have frustrated you. No hard feelings I hope. If I thought your points were invalid I wouldn't have you to clarify them.
 
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Thats the sadest fight ever a true honorable brave man who lost his life with dignity.
Yea you right on that, but I guess there's that ol saying don't mess with family.
 

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Ching-Yun (simplified Chinese: 李清云; traditional Chinese: 李清雲; pinyin: Lǐ Qīngyún; died 6 May 1933) was a Chinese herbalist, martial artist and tactical advisor, known for his supposed extreme longevity. He claimed to be born in 1736, while disputed records suggest 1677. Both claimed lifespans of 197 and 256 years, far exceeding the longest confirmed lifespan of 122 years.

He was into those long finger nails thing.. Not my cup of tea lol

They came in handy for stirring his herbal teas :)