If EVERYONE is forgiven then what is Heaven like?
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Then I apologize. What you said you meant.
The Op posted twice..... We don't know whether he's a troll starting a ruckus, or an agitated christian trying to speak his heart.
Either way we have a ruckus..... not because he egged it on, but because others egged it on as if he were a troublemaker.
Either way, he exposed something others didn't want talked about.
Isn't it something..... he could have been the Devil himself, & with 2 posts here we are showing our true colors.
Now I ask you all..... are we still forgiven, after all this? Or are some convicted, & needing to be forgiven?
We can be forgiven, if that's where we're at right now.
But make no mistake about it..... unless we truly repent, we wont be.
The Op posted twice..... We don't know whether he's a troll starting a ruckus, or an agitated christian trying to speak his heart.
Either way we have a ruckus..... not because he egged it on, but because others egged it on as if he were a troublemaker.
Either way, he exposed something others didn't want talked about.
Isn't it something..... he could have been the Devil himself, & with 2 posts here we are showing our true colors.
Now I ask you all..... are we still forgiven, after all this? Or are some convicted, & needing to be forgiven?
We can be forgiven, if that's where we're at right now.
But make no mistake about it..... unless we truly repent, we wont be.
Just what the heck are you saying?
That some on this thread could lose their salvation For some of their reply's if they don't repent?
Your nickname in my world is gravedigger. Constantly, constantly, directly and indirectly trying to send His children to their death.
Listen to this.......Joseph Prince! I bet you just peed yourself a little. Get a grip man.
Don't you realize that in order to act so outlandishly in the first place, it's because the attitudes have been place for a while?
Because of that, there's definitely more than one sin by such an attitude.
BTW, thanks for getting the name right(bold). I say that name quite a lot, and without peeing too!
Very few have a "grip" on the spiritual issues around them.
Even fewer have the understanding of the sons of Issachar.(1Chr. 12:32)
Because of that, there's definitely more than one sin by such an attitude.
BTW, thanks for getting the name right(bold). I say that name quite a lot, and without peeing too!
Very few have a "grip" on the spiritual issues around them.
Even fewer have the understanding of the sons of Issachar.(1Chr. 12:32)
No I don't think that I'm the one to judge people but reason that im asking your guy's advice is because im being called a saint by a satanic cult and now everywhere I go they tell people that im a saint ,I told them that im not a saint,I mean look at what I believe,don't saints "save" EVERYONE?
Well I don't believe that that would be a good thing.
Well I don't believe that that would be a good thing.
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Honestly from my reading of the bible if you truly repent from your sins in your heart and mind then you will no longer be who you were as a person. You turn your back on who you were to who God has made you to be. You will no longer be any of those ugly things that was. So to live in the presents of Jesus Christ you have to be pure and clean of all your sins because Heaven isn't hell its a pure place of being and You cant go in till you have turned your back to living that way so yes you are forgiven but you only enter through Heavens gate through Christ so to my understanding its a pure place where all can be happy and live in peace.
I honestly don't mean to insult or offend any of you guy's it's just that im having my life controlled by people like you guy's who are trying to make me change my belief so that they can be "saved" and I've never believed like they do nor will I.
I know that not all of you are like them and im very comforted by replies from those that aren't thank you very much.
You don't know what it's like to have your life ruined and then taken control of by a satanic cult.....it's horrible!
I keep thinking that I'll wake up back in my old life but in never happens instead im a thousand miles from home I can never go back and im surrounded by degenerates that make their own laws ,some of these degenerates say that they are Christians like you guys,but they are probably different.
I really am sorry for sounding like such a jerk this is the only place that I get a little respite from my personal hell,I gotta go I got my family getting drunk out there and they want to start a fight.
I know that not all of you are like them and im very comforted by replies from those that aren't thank you very much.
You don't know what it's like to have your life ruined and then taken control of by a satanic cult.....it's horrible!
I keep thinking that I'll wake up back in my old life but in never happens instead im a thousand miles from home I can never go back and im surrounded by degenerates that make their own laws ,some of these degenerates say that they are Christians like you guys,but they are probably different.
I really am sorry for sounding like such a jerk this is the only place that I get a little respite from my personal hell,I gotta go I got my family getting drunk out there and they want to start a fight.
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I don't feel insulted at all but I do feel that you're crying out for help but not really giving much information as to what your real issues are. I think it would be best for you to put your concerns and fears down in point form and ask for help in that regard instead of making statements that are erroneous or from bad teaching and which tend to generate what you consider hostile responses. I will however pray for you two receive peace and direction.
Some of you guy's seen to be arguing over repentance like you'll go to hell if you don't repent im saying that grown adults that are fully aware of the possibility of Heaven and hell and choose to gamble their souls that God will forgive them don't deserve to go to Heaven that's my opinion and I could be way off but that just seems like they are trying to take advantage of God and I think that that is wrong.
And im not saying that im pefect or better than anyone else there are many people just like me who are so afraid of hell that they choose to not gamble their souls to basically have fun.
Im not trying to be argumentative but I asked if only the people with evidence answer this post many of you just got offended and answered without common sense to clarify your position.
Look I've gambled my life that God is real and what He says in the Bible He means literally it's not supposed to be interpreted by us to fit our lives.
That sounds kinda mystic but in light of current events in the world I don't think that it is what is mystic is people not giving solid reasoning behind ther answers.
Like I sayed I don't think that peoples salvation is in my hands but some seem to think so.
And im not saying that im pefect or better than anyone else there are many people just like me who are so afraid of hell that they choose to not gamble their souls to basically have fun.
Im not trying to be argumentative but I asked if only the people with evidence answer this post many of you just got offended and answered without common sense to clarify your position.
Look I've gambled my life that God is real and what He says in the Bible He means literally it's not supposed to be interpreted by us to fit our lives.
That sounds kinda mystic but in light of current events in the world I don't think that it is what is mystic is people not giving solid reasoning behind ther answers.
Like I sayed I don't think that peoples salvation is in my hands but some seem to think so.
Why does it amaze you though? If a person comes to know Christ at age 60 should they know more than you? And many Christians live as Sunday Christians and then one day have a life changing event that creates a eye opener on how they been living. It's sad if people only think of God on Sunday.
Just remember an older person can still be living on the infant milk of Christ.
Just remember an older person can still be living on the infant milk of Christ.
The time is coming when sin shall be no more. Sin = death, and pain.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Only the pure are left, only the righteous are left, only those that are saved.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
God can't dwell with sin
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Only the pure are left, only the righteous are left, only those that are saved.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
God can't dwell with sin
And I know that some of you that think that in a saint sent to save you well these are my beliefs they always have been (since I took the question of heaven and hell seriously anyway) and they always will be even if you torture me trying to MAKE me save you,that's probably whats about to happen,that cult told these drunk degenerates that are going to hell because they deserve it that it's MY JOB to "save" EVERYONE it's not.
Im sitting in a house full of drunk freeloaders that not only took advantage of the government themselves but taught their children to do the same and I hope that they go to hell for it even if they are my family.
There are people that worked and payed taxes all of their lives to support these people as penance for something that their ancestors did generations ago THATS WRONG especially because many of the people are now starving and homeless many don't even owe anything because they aren't even from the same gene pool as those that might owe(I don't think that they do anymore).
My own family will probably start torturing me in a drunken rage because this satanic cult told them that im obligated to save them and EVERYONE or they go to hell.
I still will never change my belief.
Some of you are saying that all that is necessary is repentance but what about all of the damage thats already been done? My family is a perfect example my aunt gets free food which isn't free tax paying hard working Americans pay for that,she uses that food to feed all these grown adults that have spent their lives taking advantage of the US in fact she's having another big party now where she cooks up food that is supposed to last 2 people 2 weeks in one night to feed her partyers.
She and I are living in a brand new house that in a non reservation community would cost $2500 a month her and my ma are only paying $400 a month because of what the white people did generations ago....thats nonsense!!!!
By some of your guy's reasoning they deserve a chance to repent but what about the damage done?
People aren't homeless now just because of the real estate crises NO people like my family are partially responsible for entire families children and elderly being out there....dying out there! They deserve a chance at Heaven?
Even though they are aware that it's the end of the world they are STILL breaking the law taking free stuff from the government AND PARTYING IT ALL UP!
They deserve a chance at Heaven? I disagree.
I could be completely wrong about this that's why im asking your guy's opinions.
Im sitting in a house full of drunk freeloaders that not only took advantage of the government themselves but taught their children to do the same and I hope that they go to hell for it even if they are my family.
There are people that worked and payed taxes all of their lives to support these people as penance for something that their ancestors did generations ago THATS WRONG especially because many of the people are now starving and homeless many don't even owe anything because they aren't even from the same gene pool as those that might owe(I don't think that they do anymore).
My own family will probably start torturing me in a drunken rage because this satanic cult told them that im obligated to save them and EVERYONE or they go to hell.
I still will never change my belief.
Some of you are saying that all that is necessary is repentance but what about all of the damage thats already been done? My family is a perfect example my aunt gets free food which isn't free tax paying hard working Americans pay for that,she uses that food to feed all these grown adults that have spent their lives taking advantage of the US in fact she's having another big party now where she cooks up food that is supposed to last 2 people 2 weeks in one night to feed her partyers.
She and I are living in a brand new house that in a non reservation community would cost $2500 a month her and my ma are only paying $400 a month because of what the white people did generations ago....thats nonsense!!!!
By some of your guy's reasoning they deserve a chance to repent but what about the damage done?
People aren't homeless now just because of the real estate crises NO people like my family are partially responsible for entire families children and elderly being out there....dying out there! They deserve a chance at Heaven?
Even though they are aware that it's the end of the world they are STILL breaking the law taking free stuff from the government AND PARTYING IT ALL UP!
They deserve a chance at Heaven? I disagree.
I could be completely wrong about this that's why im asking your guy's opinions.
Yes I guess that that is exactly what I did but for me it's the results that matter,because honestly I didn't choose to live by the Bible for God's sake I did it for my sake,so that I don't go to hell forever.
I figure at least im honest about it though,I mean it seems that some people are actually going to to try to get over on God.
I've actually heard people say"if fornication sends us to hell then we are going to run down to church as soon as God shows up and get married" it doesn't seem like that would work.
I figure at least im honest about it though,I mean it seems that some people are actually going to to try to get over on God.
I've actually heard people say"if fornication sends us to hell then we are going to run down to church as soon as God shows up and get married" it doesn't seem like that would work.