How Could Adam and Eve Lose Their Just Standing Before God

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notmyown

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welp. first, could you prove everything you just said from Scripture?
 
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Deliverances said:
if it was given to them as a Grace and not earned?
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Adam was not justified, yet. He did not attain glory, yet. He was on a standing that would have attained glory if he obeyed, or would fall from attaining glory if he disobeyed.

He was not perfected, yet. He was innocent, he was undefiled, but he did not reach perfection. He fell into sin before he could.

Jesus is the 'Adam' that attained glory, that attained eternal bliss, that attained the perfect standing for all of us who belong to him.

Whereas Adam fell from glory, we all fell short of it too. But as Christ attained glory, we all in him obtained the same.
 
p_rehbein

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Deliverances said:
if it was given to them as a Grace and not earned?
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Better slow down dude............don't create too many threads so quick...........elsewise you will draw the attention of the Troll Slayers here on CC..........if you are not already in their sights

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Christ's covenant of works was our covenant of grace. His obedience in life and atoning death was his terms of the New Covenant, and he fully obeyed. Adam failed, and brought destruction to his fallen posterity.
 
Johnny_B

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Don't know since Adam was just standing​ 90 feet tall, according mohammed. Bukhara vol. IV, no. 543 Narrated Abu Huraira: The prophet said, "allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall."
 
Grace777x70

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notmyown said:
is that a disqualification?

because.... erm.... uh.... :D
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LOL..nope..it's a clarification of someone that has been banned and now is here under a secret squirrel name.

You are way different. This is you. You are SuperMom!
 
notmyown

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Magenta said:
... and we are all glad you did :)
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Grace777x70 said:

LOL..nope..it's a clarification of someone that has been banned and now is here under a secret squirrel name.

You are way different. This is you. You are SuperMom!
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aw, thanks, friends.

but... i think i might delete my account again so i can rejoin with the user name secret squirrel!

Bruce, you're a genius! ;)
 
Grace777x70

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notmyown said:
aw, thanks, friends.

but... i think i might delete my account again so i can rejoin with the user name secret squirrel!

Bruce, you're a genius! ;)
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LOL..we are on to you now though. You love "nuts"...:cool:
 
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Laish

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Just a bump to compare threads
Blessings
Bill
 
trofimus

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Deliverances said:
How Could Adam and Eve Lose Their Just Standing Before God if it was given to them as a Grace and not earned?
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Because there was a condition attached to it: "You will not eat from the tree..."
 
phil36

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Deliverances said:
if it was given to them as a Grace and not earned?
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It's an easy question to answer. Adam and Eve were in covenant with God (usually referred to as covenant of works).

They broke this covenant (Gen 1:28; 2:16-17) ..they disobeyed God..and fell from grace, their righteous and innocent state (Gen 3).
 
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