Not By Works

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

BillG

Senior Member
Feb 15, 2017
8,894
4,337
113
But He speaks like a Texan:).
i kid you not.

I had a very good friend who was Chinese and he spoke with a strong Glaswegian (Glasgow where I came from) accent.

Now picture that
 
W

wwjd_kilden

Guest
I wonder what God does sound like ... and if we'd hear him in our own language, or if we'd simply understand His language
 
W

wwjd_kilden

Guest
Send him here! I miss having Scottish chatter around me
 

BillG

Senior Member
Feb 15, 2017
8,894
4,337
113
I wonder what God does sound like ... and if we'd hear him in our own language, or if we'd simply understand His language
I think we hear him in our own language but also he talks to us in the way that we understand and the way he knows he will break through to us.
 

88

Senior Member
Nov 14, 2016
3,517
77
48
I wonder what God does sound like ... and if we'd hear him in our own language, or if we'd simply understand His language
*** He speaks to God each person as a personal God in your language and quirks...
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,395
113
That's utterly ridiculous. We believe by the power that raised Christ from the dead; Ephesians 1:19. No man has this power, it is external and from the Father.

Faith comes from Christ, Acts 3:16; Romans 10:17; 1 Timothy 1:14; Philippians 1:29. It doesn't come from within man.

Amen....In the grace you are, having been saved out of faith, and that NOT OF YOURSELVES, It is the gift of God and not of works lest any man should boast.

THAT not of yourselves is directed at the FAITH that saves.....
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
this is rubbish and more of the same propaganda DCONN pushes...Romans 10.17 clearly says faith comes from hearing and hearing the word of God...

Faith does not come from God or Jesus, the Bible says he gave each man a measure of faith and this includes saving faith....

If faith comes from God and given to you as a gift then that would mean everyone is going to heaven and that clearly is not true...
You assume God gives everyone faith.
 

rily51jean

Junior Member
Apr 30, 2017
73
14
8
Hmmm....I thought it was "our righteousness is as filthy rags". We're covered by the righteousness of Jesus Christ, when we believe Him, and obey Him.
But, otherwise:
We're judged on our works, not on our faith, as the Apostle Paul states:

1 Cor. 3:9-15 Vs. 9 "For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

Vs. 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

Vs. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Vs. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

Vs. 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Vs. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

Vs. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."


Rev. 14:13 "And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, "Write, 'Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.'"(KJV)

Rev. 19:7 "Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready." Vs. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints."
What is "righteousness"? Righteousness can be described as "doing what's right", the right acts, or works performed in service to Christ.
Therefore, our righteous acts, and works done in service to Christ, make up our apparel in Heaven, the fine linen robes granted to us. We're judged on our works, but not on our faith, for we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ.
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
you are not clever your just silly in my book are you enjoying your silliness
Yes sir. I am and eating my cake too. With strawberries and watermelon. Yum!
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,395
113
you shouldnt worship false idols..
What is the point of this post in light of Magenta's comment.....serious

Originally Posted by Magenta
You are not a universalist in the least :)

Though I would not say I have seen everything you have ever written :D

It is still clear to anyone who has any idea at all about what you espouse and
believe of Scripture, that universalism is not in there in any way, shape, or form
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,395
113
because he gave them a measure doesnt meen he still didnt have more to give
Jesus was given faith without measure....and our faith can be increased....what's your point....other than to disagree with me on everything I say
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
We will see this differently because you believe in predestination....we see it differently than DCONN and Ariel, because they believe in universalism
Well that's a lie. I for one don't believe in universalism.

I am beginning to wonder if talking to you is a waste of time though.
 

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2014
70,869
9,601
113
Sorry to say, Jimbo doesn't know the truth. That's what happens when someone refuses to believe God's word..


JIMBO calls telling the truth "worshiping false idols."

Satan is the father of lies, after all.