Preach flat earth and lead people to Christ.

[dcontroversal]

A question....no mouthy comments....just answers that make sense....

If the earth was flat....how could the words North and South be applied and used in the bible? I fully understand East and West being applicable if a flat circle is divided in half.....but how could North and South be applicable.......

 

[GaryA]

If the earth was flat....how could the words North and South be applied and used in the bible? I fully understand East and West being applicable if a flat circle is divided in half.....but how could North and South be applicable.......

North is toward the center. South is away from it.

 

[GaryA]

If the earth was flat....how could the words North and South be applied and used in the bible? I fully understand East and West being applicable if a flat circle is divided in half.....but how could North and South be applicable.......

There is no need to divide the 'circle' in half.

East is around the 'circle' in a CCW direction. West is around the 'circle' in a CW direction.

 

[Rachmiel]

Since things are a bit more civil today
I think I will ask my question I've meant to ask
It is to the people that subscribe to whatever version of so-called flat earth theory
The others need not apply or answer here
I am just curious what made you first think the earth was not a sphere?
To put it another way, what was it that cracked the shell?
Was it something of science; an observation, or a test?
Was it something you heard from someone else?
A video? A friend? A book? Historical research?
Was it the Bible, and if so, what verse?

 

[dcontroversal]

North is toward the center. South is away from it.

yeah right.......still not buying flat earth

 

[dcontroversal]

Since things are a bit more civil today
I think I will ask my question I've meant to ask
It is to the people that subscribe to whatever version of so-called flat earth theory
The others need not apply or answer here
I am just curious what made you first think the earth was not a sphere?
To put it another way, what was it that cracked the shell?
Was it something of science; an observation, or a test?
Was it something you heard from someone else?
A video? A friend? A book? Historical research?
Was it the Bible, and if so, what verse?

I have asked for two sets of verses in context that states verbatim the earth is flat....no takers....

 

[GaryA]

I have asked for two sets of verses in context that states verbatim the earth is flat....no takers....

Please see this post.

 

[dcontroversal]

Please see this post.

Yeah....that does not prove a flat earth and why are there no pictures of a massive Ice wall holding everything in.......? Did you look at the pics from AU?

 

[Rachmiel]

I have asked for two sets of verses in context that states verbatim the earth is flat....no takers....

If you go back and read
One man answered you all ready
Many get hung up on the circle of the earth part
And neglect the part about the heaven stretched like a tent
There are other such verses as well that if you put them together
Indeed they do not support a spherical earth
This is why Copernicus was tried
And recanted of his heresy
It's a sort of an irony
But spherical earth and the heliocentric model
Are legally still a heretical fantasy
Admitted to be a lie from their own author
Whom was inspired by the ancient spherical earth believers
The ancient greek idol worshippers
So it is little to wonder at why they pick curious names
For all of their lofty projects that they proclaim
Did Apollo take them to the Moon indeed?
Or will they now hope in Mars to save them?
Times change, but some things stay the same
I guess just let them stay how they are
Let them believe in the power of greek gods and man
And we will believe the Bible no matter what they do
But if you are asking me specifically for two:

Psalm 136:6

[SUP]6 [/SUP]To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.

Proverbs 8:27-29

[SUP]27 [/SUP]When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

 

[dcontroversal]

If you go back and read
One man answered you all ready
Many get hung up on the circle of the earth part
And neglect the part about the heaven stretched like a tent
There are other such verses as well that if you put them together
Indeed they do not support a spherical earth
This is why Copernicus was tried
And recanted of his heresy
It's a sort of an irony
But spherical earth and the heliocentric model
Are legally still a heretical fantasy
Admitted to be a lie from their own author
Whom was inspired by the ancient spherical earth believers
The ancient greek idol worshippers
So it is little to wonder at why they pick curious names
For all of their lofty projects that they proclaim
Did Apollo take them to the Moon indeed?
Or will they now hope in Mars to save them?
Times change, but some things stay the same
I guess just let them stay how they are
Let them believe in the power of greek gods and man
And we will believe the Bible no matter what they do
But if you are asking me specifically for two:

Psalm 136:6

[SUP]6 [/SUP]To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.

Proverbs 8:27-29

[SUP]27 [/SUP]When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

Nice verses....none of them prove a flat earth

 

[Rockrz]

Did you guys hear the space station was jacked by some unknown space jackers?

 

[Rachmiel]

Nice verses....none of them prove a flat earth

Sure they do
David says God stretched the earth above the waters
Solomon says God set a compass upon the face of the depth
And by the decree of God there is a bounds by which cannot pass the sea
We could also try this in the reverse
And I could say show even one single verse
That says the earth is a sphere
But don't fret overmuch over this question I ask
It is an impossible task
Because it is not there
And even more impossible is it to say that it spins around the sun in the air
As many verses directly contradict that claim
But if you do not believe the Bible I cannot make you
Nor do I will to try to
All I have done is answer your query
It's up to you to believe the Bible or not
And the matter goes much deeper really than the shape
Philosophically it's a fundamental question of belief
Does one trust their fathers or that from doomsday they can escape?
Or should we trust our God by whom the earth and heavens were made?

 

[pckts]

Nice verses....none of them prove a flat earth

None of the verses prove a globe earth, with or without your criteria and logic.

Here are two more for you to dismiss as figurative:

◄ Daniel 4:11 ►

New International Version
The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth.
[h=1]Matthew 4:8 (KJV)[/h]Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;


How is a tree visible to the entire earth on a globe?

How can Christ see all the kingdoms of the world at once from a high mountain on a globe?

Just say it's figurative and dismiss It, I assume.

 

[Rachmiel]

None of the verses prove a globe earth, with or without your criteria and logic.

Here are two more for you to dismiss as figurative:

◄ Daniel 4:11 ►

New International Version
The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth.
Matthew 4:8 (KJV)

Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;


How is a tree visible to the entire earth on a globe?

How can Christ see all the kingdoms of the world at once from a high mountain on a globe?

Just say it's figurative and dismiss It, I assume.

Well anyways
Since I know you subscribe to the flat earth theory
I wanted your opinion particularly
Going back to my original post of the day
What is it that first made you think this way?

To re-post my question in case it was missed:

Since things are a bit more civil today
I think I will ask my question I've meant to ask
It is to the people that subscribe to whatever version of so-called flat earth theory
The others need not apply or answer here
I am just curious what made you first think the earth was not a sphere?
To put it another way, what was it that cracked the shell?
Was it something of science; an observation, or a test?
Was it something you heard from someone else?
A video? A friend? A book? Historical research?
Was it the Bible, and if so, what verse?

 

[pckts]

Well anyways
Since I know you subscribe to the flat earth theory
I wanted your opinion particularly
Going back to my original post of the day
What is it that first made you think this way?

To re-post my question in case it was missed:

Since things are a bit more civil today
I think I will ask my question I've meant to ask
It is to the people that subscribe to whatever version of so-called flat earth theory
The others need not apply or answer here
I am just curious what made you first think the earth was not a sphere?
To put it another way, what was it that cracked the shell?
Was it something of science; an observation, or a test?
Was it something you heard from someone else?
A video? A friend? A book? Historical research?
Was it the Bible, and if so, what verse?

When I was an atheist I dismissed The Bible's credibility and divine inspiration because the authors thought the earth was flat (referencing four corners and other things) and the sun revolved around it, rather than knowing the correct model like me.

I was interested in the moon landing hoax since I was in middle school, but the documentaries and claims always left me inconclusive, because I was watching what I now know as "controlled opposition disinformation". When the "Stanley Kubrick helped fake the moon landing and put hidden messages into The Shining" theory gained more popularity, I re-examined everything as an adult because I like the shining and moon landing conspiracy. I then started watching non-government approved moon landing hoax documentaries, which made it clearly evident it's a hoax and you can't unsee the zipper on the costume afterwards.

From there I figured the ISS, Mars, and Satellite hoax were worth looking into, and to my shock and amazement they were just as fake as the moon landing. Then after all of my concrete evidence of space travel and truthful government entities was thrown out the window, I was open to the possibility of the "flat earth theory" that I heard about a year or two before quickly in passing as the "flat earth society". I thought they were "Live action role-playing" or something. I looked into it and after hearing how controlled "space travel" airline travel, Antarctica and north pole travel were, as well as "secret societies" being behind anything globe, I decided the earth wasn't a spinning ball, and that the sun worshipers and occultists deceived the peasants in Europe in the 1600's because they could by word of mouth and numbers.

Also, once someone presented the idea to me that all the photos of earth are CGI, I looked at them again and it was obvious they were fake, and I'm still shocked this doesn't happen to everyone.

Then I asked God for forgiveness in fear and tears for doubting The Bible and Him and felt like a complete idiot for being an atheist (or "spiritual/newager) and trusting the government who I already thought I couldn't trust any less. This realization instantly made evolution, big bang, and denying God simultaneously impossible and evil. This is what cracked the shell/matrix and I guess the very first that made me think it was not a sphere was the lack of videos and images of the sphere or "outer space", coupled with the fact that The Bible and ancient civilizations I highly respected for building pyramids aligned to stars better than we can today, all thought it was flat. I also knew all the NASA "astrophysicists" were either jews or bitter atheists, and I use to argue with Christians for thinking the earth was 6,000 years old and they told me a lot of things in passing about government lies and flawed logic, that when applied to the flat earth model instead of the Globe made complete sense. And I questioned before all of this how the ancient structure remained alligned to the stars with "continental drift/plate movement", the sun moving in orbit and all the stars having their own orbit too, makes no sense on the globe earth model and the stationary flat one made more sense.

 

[dcontroversal]

Sure they do
David says God stretched the earth above the waters
Solomon says God set a compass upon the face of the depth
And by the decree of God there is a bounds by which cannot pass the sea
We could also try this in the reverse
And I could say show even one single verse
That says the earth is a sphere
But don't fret overmuch over this question I ask
It is an impossible task
Because it is not there
And even more impossible is it to say that it spins around the sun in the air
As many verses directly contradict that claim
But if you do not believe the Bible I cannot make you
Nor do I will to try to
All I have done is answer your query
It's up to you to believe the Bible or not
And the matter goes much deeper really than the shape
Philosophically it's a fundamental question of belief
Does one trust their fathers or that from doomsday they can escape?
Or should we trust our God by whom the earth and heavens were made?

None of them prove a flat earth and I have used a telescope before and looed at numerous planets that are globes.....and listed a bunch of things that do not add up to a flat earth....so...again...show one verse that states the earth is flat.....still waiting

 

[dcontroversal]

None of the verses prove a globe earth, with or without your criteria and logic.

Here are two more for you to dismiss as figurative:

◄ Daniel 4:11 ►

New International Version
The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth.
Matthew 4:8 (KJV)

Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;


How is a tree visible to the entire earth on a globe?

How can Christ see all the kingdoms of the world at once from a high mountain on a globe?

Just say it's figurative and dismiss It, I assume.

Show pictures of the edge of the flat earth....and the verses you quote...prove nothing

 

[pckts]

None of them prove a flat earth and I have used a telescope before and looed at numerous planets that are globes.....and listed a bunch of things that do not add up to a flat earth....so...again...show one verse that states the earth is flat.....still waiting

While you are waiting, show me one that says it's a globe. You can't.

 

[dcontroversal]

While you are waiting, show me one that says it's a globe. You can't.

Yep...show a pic of the edge.....and we can take a telescope and see globes.....so.....God is consistent....if mars, mercury, venus etc. are globes.....whereas YOU cannot show ONE solid pic or proof of a flat earth and if it was....there would be photographic proof from someone....

 

[pckts]

Yep...show a pic of the edge.....and we can take a telescope and see globes.....so.....God is consistent....if mars, mercury, venus etc. are globes.....whereas YOU cannot show ONE solid pic or proof of a flat earth and if it was....there would be photographic proof from someone....

The general public can't fly around or go to Antarctica snapping photos. That is why we do not have any photographic images of what exists beyond the ice ring. Very harsh conditions too in Antarctica, we both can agree an expedition going only God knows how far to reach the end would be difficult or who knows impossible. The Van Allens prevent us from going high in the atmosphere, maybe the extreme cold or another phenomenon makes it impossible.

You can't show a solid pics of the globe earth either, you post cartoons. I post videos higher than 60,000 ft showing no curvature but that is dismissed.

You are the one saying God is consistent and makes everything a globe, not God. I use to say the same thing, how can people think the earth was flat when they looked at the sun and moon and planets and obviously knew they were spheres? The earth is different from the sun moon and planets, that's it. Is heaven a globe too if you believe God is consistent? Earth is different from the planetary bodies, sun, moon, and stars, they revolve around us and serve purposes for us and Earth dwarfs them in size.

Do we really have any photos of Antartica in general? A image that shows a large portion of the continent at once? Not the CGI one's (or satellite photos whatever), but something where you can see a vast landscape far from the ocean.