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Many of the early Jews who accepted Jesus early fell away and the crowd cried "crucify Him".
Luke 23:
13 [FONT="]Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people,[/FONT]
I believe Jesus eluded when He gave the parable of the sowers and also when he said "I have not come to bring piece on earth but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father.....(Matt. 10:34)... 1.1 million Jews were killed at the siege on Jerusalem in 70AD, about 1 third of the population. The Christians all left Jerusalem as commanded by Jesus. The majority of Jews did not follow Jesus.
Yes, I agree, some things were fulfilled literally. But the notion that Jesus was going to actually sit on the earthly throne of David was not.
Luke 23:
13 [FONT="]Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people,[/FONT]
I believe Jesus eluded when He gave the parable of the sowers and also when he said "I have not come to bring piece on earth but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father.....(Matt. 10:34)... 1.1 million Jews were killed at the siege on Jerusalem in 70AD, about 1 third of the population. The Christians all left Jerusalem as commanded by Jesus. The majority of Jews did not follow Jesus.
Yes, I agree, some things were fulfilled literally. But the notion that Jesus was going to actually sit on the earthly throne of David was not.
Matthew 22:4 KJV
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
This is the marriage supper of the Lamb.... the wedding feast because the WEDDING SUPPER had been prepared. This happened at the first coming because those that were BIDDEN were not worthy so the servants went to the GENTILES.
Matthew 22:8-10 KJV
Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
[9] Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
[10] So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
This is the marriage supper of the Lamb.... the wedding feast because the WEDDING SUPPER had been prepared. This happened at the first coming because those that were BIDDEN were not worthy so the servants went to the GENTILES.
Matthew 22:8-10 KJV
Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
[9] Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
[10] So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
Here is my two cents for today. These passages are related, but what do they actually mean?
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains... [SUP]20 [/SUP]And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
You see before Titus came to surround Jerusalem, a voice of an angel rang out telling all the Christians in the city to flee to Pella. To protect themselves from the Jews who hated them, all the Jewish Christians of the day lived together on Mount Zion where they also had a massive church. A voice rang out from heaven saying, "Let's remove hence." This flight was written about extensively by many early Christian writers.
These Christians who fled to Pella to escape the wrath of God which would soon come upon Jerusalem in the form of the Roman siege, returned to Jerusalem after 3.5 years in fulfillment of prophesy. They then began to rebuild Jerusalem and the city became a predominately Christian city for the next thousand years. This is recorded in "Panarion 29" by Epiphanius:
7,7 Today this sect of the Nazoraeans is found in Beroea near Coelesyria, in the Decapolis near Pella, and in Bashanitis at the place called Cocabe-Khokhabe in Hebrew. (8) For that was its place of origin, since all the disciples had settled in Pella after they left Jerusalem-Christ told them to abandon Jerusalem and withdraw from it because of its coming siege. And they settled in Peraea for this reason
and, as I said, spent their lives there. That was where the Nazoraean sect began.
Now while in Pella they witnessed, and were given insight into, the age to come as recorded in Hebrews 6. You see the Woman of Rev 12 became the Jewish Christians whom salvation came to first (John 4:22). These Jewish Christians were the "wheat" growing among the "tares" which of course where the wicked, unbelieving Jews. When the end of their age came, the wheat were gathered to Pella while the Tares were gathered to be burned in Jerusalem fulfilling Mat 13. Incredibly, Jews from all over the world returned to Jerusalem for Passover and were thus trapped inside when the Romans surrounded the city.
The destruction of Jerusalem was indeed the worst tribulation any nation had ever endured, or ever will endure.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains... [SUP]20 [/SUP]And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
You see before Titus came to surround Jerusalem, a voice of an angel rang out telling all the Christians in the city to flee to Pella. To protect themselves from the Jews who hated them, all the Jewish Christians of the day lived together on Mount Zion where they also had a massive church. A voice rang out from heaven saying, "Let's remove hence." This flight was written about extensively by many early Christian writers.
These Christians who fled to Pella to escape the wrath of God which would soon come upon Jerusalem in the form of the Roman siege, returned to Jerusalem after 3.5 years in fulfillment of prophesy. They then began to rebuild Jerusalem and the city became a predominately Christian city for the next thousand years. This is recorded in "Panarion 29" by Epiphanius:
7,7 Today this sect of the Nazoraeans is found in Beroea near Coelesyria, in the Decapolis near Pella, and in Bashanitis at the place called Cocabe-Khokhabe in Hebrew. (8) For that was its place of origin, since all the disciples had settled in Pella after they left Jerusalem-Christ told them to abandon Jerusalem and withdraw from it because of its coming siege. And they settled in Peraea for this reason
and, as I said, spent their lives there. That was where the Nazoraean sect began.
Now while in Pella they witnessed, and were given insight into, the age to come as recorded in Hebrews 6. You see the Woman of Rev 12 became the Jewish Christians whom salvation came to first (John 4:22). These Jewish Christians were the "wheat" growing among the "tares" which of course where the wicked, unbelieving Jews. When the end of their age came, the wheat were gathered to Pella while the Tares were gathered to be burned in Jerusalem fulfilling Mat 13. Incredibly, Jews from all over the world returned to Jerusalem for Passover and were thus trapped inside when the Romans surrounded the city.
The destruction of Jerusalem was indeed the worst tribulation any nation had ever endured, or ever will endure.
There are some in the USA but I don't know any in Finland. You can try this site. I don't agree with all of it, but I do agree with about 80% of it and learned a few things.
Matthew 24 Fulfilled | Matthew 24, 24:14, 24:29 Commentary
Matthew 24 Fulfilled | Matthew 24, 24:14, 24:29 Commentary
In a Jewish Wedding, unless both families were from the same small town, and both had small families; YES there would be a Marriage Supper BOTH at the Bridegrooms Father's House, and as soon as possible, after that at a relative of the Bride's House, where the Bride and Bridegroom would REPEAT their VOWS in front of her Relatives. I know that analogy above leaves some questions on WHY they would not Come. It really does not say, but I can speculate, for whatever that is worth. It sounds like bitterness over Not being invited to the Wedding Ceremony in the Bridegroom's Father's House, and/or Not being chosen as part of the Bride. IF, that is the case, this group, who all think they EARNED THAT RIGHT, may be the group HE is referring to:
Matthew 7:21-23 (HCSB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ⌊only⌋ the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?’
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
That expression ‘I never knew you!', I believe with my whole heart, is a reference to their Never having established an Inner Personal Love Relationship with Jesus Christ, submitting to HIM as LORD, meaning MASTER out of SENCERE LOVE FOR HIM. Dispite all they did, they Remained lord of their own lives. This may be why he referrs to them as Lawbreakers:
Luke 10:25-28 (HCSB)
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Just then an expert in the law stood up to test Him, saying, “Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
[SUP]26 [/SUP] “What is written in the law?” He asked him. “How do you read it?”
[SUP]27 [/SUP] He answered: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] “You’ve answered correctly,” He told him. “Do this and you will live.”
I lost my wife after 36 years of Marriage to a heart attack, about 20 months ago. At no point in that marriage, did I doubt that she LOVED Jesus Christ more than me. And at no point in that marriage did I love her more than Jesus Christ, HOWEVER we both KNEW our love for each other was second only to JESUS CHRIST. That is the kind of LOVE that Truly is KNOWING HIM, and it produced in us that wanting to obey HIM purely out of DEEP LOVE FOR HIM. Where we perfect at it? NO, but as we matured Spiritually, we got better and better at walking in that DEEP LOVE FOR HIM.
Matthew 7:21-23 (HCSB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ⌊only⌋ the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?’
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
That expression ‘I never knew you!', I believe with my whole heart, is a reference to their Never having established an Inner Personal Love Relationship with Jesus Christ, submitting to HIM as LORD, meaning MASTER out of SENCERE LOVE FOR HIM. Dispite all they did, they Remained lord of their own lives. This may be why he referrs to them as Lawbreakers:
Luke 10:25-28 (HCSB)
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Just then an expert in the law stood up to test Him, saying, “Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
[SUP]26 [/SUP] “What is written in the law?” He asked him. “How do you read it?”
[SUP]27 [/SUP] He answered: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] “You’ve answered correctly,” He told him. “Do this and you will live.”
I lost my wife after 36 years of Marriage to a heart attack, about 20 months ago. At no point in that marriage, did I doubt that she LOVED Jesus Christ more than me. And at no point in that marriage did I love her more than Jesus Christ, HOWEVER we both KNEW our love for each other was second only to JESUS CHRIST. That is the kind of LOVE that Truly is KNOWING HIM, and it produced in us that wanting to obey HIM purely out of DEEP LOVE FOR HIM. Where we perfect at it? NO, but as we matured Spiritually, we got better and better at walking in that DEEP LOVE FOR HIM.
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The fact that the wise took extra tells us that they all needed replenishing,and the wise had done just that.
Note that what ever someone labels the oil,it needs to fit ,and not drastically deviate off the stories intended message.
Iow,the oil had to be fuel for our "fire" a catalyst for "light",a property to be carried in several vessels of saved believers (virgins),plus it had to be transferrable,and obviously the responsibility to have some,or a lot,was placed on each virgin/believer.
Once the components are changed,we can make the parable/bible say most anything.
Note that what ever someone labels the oil,it needs to fit ,and not drastically deviate off the stories intended message.
Iow,the oil had to be fuel for our "fire" a catalyst for "light",a property to be carried in several vessels of saved believers (virgins),plus it had to be transferrable,and obviously the responsibility to have some,or a lot,was placed on each virgin/believer.
Once the components are changed,we can make the parable/bible say most anything.
The marriage happened right here:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
This is the OT saints meeting the NT saints "in the clouds" for the wedding. This happened right after Jerusalem, the great harlot, was destroyed.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
This is the OT saints meeting the NT saints "in the clouds" for the wedding. This happened right after Jerusalem, the great harlot, was destroyed.