Company to install microchips in employees

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[for me anyway] I shall never except any manner of device which requires exactly for our right hand or eye to be involved; and if it is an ultimatum, then so be it.
I heard that.....I can stay home and not leave...I have enough for 5 years...and can extend that to 7 or 8 if I smoke deer, turkey, rabbits etc......
 
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My point is we have already been living by this system. So there comes a point when it's rejection? I've lived all my life under this system and when asked to take a chip that is what separates us and puts us in the Damned category?
 

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What about the Amish, they can live self-sufficient.

Gonna get me an Amish woman....wide hips, hard worker....:p
 
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My point is we have already been living by this system. So there comes a point when it's rejection? I've lived all my life under this system and when asked to take a chip that is what separates us and puts us in the Damned category?
The SS Administration told me that as soon as you decide to quit using the number, it is canceled. And I agree. If you refuse to use it, it serves no purpose for tracking and control. And of course your rights will go away at the same time. No more bank account, etc. And look at how SS works..you are supposed to be thankful to the beast (government) for keeping you alive and fed. Although they just took your money and are giving it back, you are supposed to be thankful for them. Just like a convict, what's your number??
 
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I'm failing to see the difference. We already live like this. Just not to the degree y'all are saying..
The SS Administration told me that as soon as you decide to quit using the number, it is canceled. And I agree. If you refuse to use it, it serves no purpose for tracking and control. And of course your rights will go away at the same time. No more bank account, etc. And look at how SS works..you are supposed to be thankful to the beast (government) for keeping you alive and fed. Although they just took your money and are giving it back, you are supposed to be thankful for them. Just like a convict, what's your number??
 
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What I'm saying is that you may have been enrolled into the system, but you can quit today. You don't have to continue to live in the system. As soon as you quit, you'll notice some serious problems with your buying and selling. The problems will be so intense that you will know that there is something seriously wrong with the number name system.

And so I say that having the microchip and being in the number name system of government worship is the same. Except of course that the chip is even nastier as it defiles your body.
 

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I work strictly "cash under the table"...:cool:

Like the politicians do...
 
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I work strictly "cash under the table"...:cool:

Like the politicians do...
See, Americans are too scared (worshipful) of the government to even joke like that because of the all-seeing eye. You should see how everyone acts around tax time. Such fear exists that you could not believe it. If people were that scared that God would see them in the movie theaters, it would be a different country.
 
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So do you suppose God will take us out of here when it comes time for everyone to have to choose this chip? He has His children owning businesses and outreach centers, missionaries. They'd no longer operate as they do now.. The preaching into all the world then the end coming and this chip mandate are 2 in the same? One ends the other.. I'm asking if that's how you see this lining up
What I'm saying is that you may have been enrolled into the system, but you can quit today. You don't have to continue to live in the system. As soon as you quit, you'll notice some serious problems with your buying and selling. The problems will be so intense that you will know that there is something seriously wrong with the number name system.

And so I say that having the microchip and being in the number name system of government worship is the same. Except of course that the chip is even nastier as it defiles your body.
 
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So do you suppose God will take us out of here when it comes time for everyone to have to choose this chip? He has His children owning businesses and outreach centers, missionaries. They'd no longer operate as they do now.. The preaching into all the world then the end coming and this chip mandate are 2 in the same? One ends the other.. I'm asking if that's how you see this lining up
The way I see it, there is to be no escape prior to the mark of the beast. I say it is already here, and they turned the SSN into the mark (the number name) with the boiling frog approach. They completed it with that offering of fire on 9/11, now there's the best excuse ever to make everyone bear a government mark. I think that the bible is clear. No buying and selling. And so that is going to mess everyone's lives up..businesses can still be owned with no number, for now, with a whole lot of bother..a whole lot. But in the future it will probably not be possible for the goal is to exterminate true Christians. The Bible says that some will lose their lives over refusing the mark. That's really going to put a damper on the outreach and ministries..
Look back into the old times of the inquisition. True Christianity in nasty times is not a cake walk. They will want to starve us out, just like the inquisitors did..they will want to exterminate us if we won't be a cog in their planetary world order. Look up 42 USC 666, subsection 13. It says that without a government number name (SSN), you cannot have a occupational license, recreational license, drivers license or marriage license. I don't know how they could be any clearer than that.
 
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Also, the first plague of god's wrath is a noisome sore upon THOSE who took the mark. Others who did not take it will still be present at that time.
 

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Me think's it would be a great time to invest in tinfoil shoulder pads..
 
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So even tho we already have a type of mark the chip is the apex and a no going back, you've just rejected God? Yeah we can opt out now but majority hasn't, why doesn't that count now?
The way I see it, there is to be no escape prior to the mark of the beast. I say it is already here, and they turned the SSN into the mark (the number name) with the boiling frog approach. They completed it with that offering of fire on 9/11, now there's the best excuse ever to make everyone bear a government mark. I think that the bible is clear. No buying and selling. And so that is going to mess everyone's lives up..businesses can still be owned with no number, for now, with a whole lot of bother..a whole lot. But in the future it will probably not be possible for the goal is to exterminate true Christians. The Bible says that some will lose their lives over refusing the mark. That's really going to put a damper on the outreach and ministries..
Look back into the old times of the inquisition. True Christianity in nasty times is not a cake walk. They will want to starve us out, just like the inquisitors did..they will want to exterminate us if we won't be a cog in their planetary world order. Look up 42 USC 666, subsection 13. It says that without a government number name (SSN), you cannot have a occupational license, recreational license, drivers license or marriage license. I don't know how they could be any clearer than that.
 

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I'll say it again....

I don't believe "the mark of the beast" is something that will be "snuck up on you".... like someone sticking a "kick me" sign on your back....

accepting the mark of the beast is a voluntary CHOICE you make... a choice to follow and worship the beast. You have to CHOOSE to follow the beast. Having a SSN or a microchip that allows you to buy/sell makes ZERO difference in your salvation...

UNLESS, you are told to swear allegiance to, or bow down and worship the beast, in order to get the mark/implant/number/whatever your imagination can come up with...

Nobody can MAKE you worship the beast... it's a choice YOU make.... a choice to be identified with the beast, instead of God.

Just my humble opinion....
 

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the mark has not arrived. it will be brought into existence when the anti christ himself will come into power. only then will his mark be known. who do you know that can bring fire from heaven. who do you know that have no regard for the rich and their money right now. tell me. who do you know that is against God ,sitting in the Holy place right now, tell me.
 
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Thank you. This is where I was going...
I'll say it again....

I don't believe "the mark of the beast" is something that will be "snuck up on you".... like someone sticking a "kick me" sign on your back....

accepting the mark of the beast is a voluntary CHOICE you make... a choice to follow and worship the beast. You have to CHOOSE to follow the beast. Having a SSN or a microchip that allows you to buy/sell makes ZERO difference in your salvation...

UNLESS, you are told to swear allegiance to, or bow down and worship the beast, in order to get the mark/implant/number/whatever your imagination can come up with...

Nobody can MAKE you worship the beast... it's a choice YOU make.... a choice to be identified with the beast, instead of God.

Just my humble opinion....
 
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So even tho we already have a type of mark the chip is the apex and a no going back, you've just rejected God? Yeah we can opt out now but majority hasn't, why doesn't that count now?
I believe that it does count now. I don't want to think that everyone who takes/keeps the mark plainly rejects God. The Bible doesn't say that they who take it will be thrown in the lake of fire. But it does say they will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and the lamb. The majority has not opted out or quit, but the majority can never be expected to do what's best..

Even with the chip, someone can have one jabbed in them and then tear it out or have it destroyed. So that's why I don't think the number itself is so much different...Also the bible speaks of a number name, and so I think that is what's the key..also, compare to the white stone referred to. Military dog tags had the SSN on it. Their "secret name" stamped on their "dog" tag..just like a pet or property.
 
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I'll say it again....

I don't believe "the mark of the beast" is something that will be "snuck up on you".... like someone sticking a "kick me" sign on your back....

accepting the mark of the beast is a voluntary CHOICE you make... a choice to follow and worship the beast. You have to CHOOSE to follow the beast. Having a SSN or a microchip that allows you to buy/sell makes ZERO difference in your salvation...

UNLESS, you are told to swear allegiance to, or bow down and worship the beast, in order to get the mark/implant/number/whatever your imagination can come up with...

Nobody can MAKE you worship the beast... it's a choice YOU make.... a choice to be identified with the beast, instead of God.

Just my humble opinion....
I somewhat agree that many will choose...I will also add that some will be forced under threat of death...the word CAUSE is used to describe what takes place and those who refuse will be killed by being beheaded....this does indicate to some extent a forced action......I DO AGREE it will not come online unnoticed.....
 
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For it to not count now doesn't line up with how God is.. He's always for or always against.. The mark is something completely different.. That's the only way it falls in line with how God is....
I believe that it does count now. I don't want to think that everyone who takes/keeps the mark plainly rejects God. The Bible doesn't say that they who take it will be thrown in the lake of fire. But it does say they will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and the lamb. The majority has not opted out or quit, but the majority can never be expected to do what's best..

Even with the chip, someone can have one jabbed in them and then tear it out or have it destroyed. So that's why I don't think the number itself is so much different...Also the bible speaks of a number name, and so I think that is what's the key..also, compare to the white stone referred to. Military dog tags had the SSN on it. Their "secret name" stamped on their "dog" tag..just like a pet or property.
 

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I somewhat agree that many will choose...I will also add that some will be forced under threat of death...the word CAUSE is used to describe what takes place and those who refuse will be killed by being beheaded....this does indicate to some extent a forced action......I DO AGREE it will not come online unnoticed.....
Yes... I believe if it comes to that, we all will have to choose... either worship/follow the beast, or be killed.

I cannot think of a better way to die.... acknowledging Jesus as Lord and God.

although, I wouldn't mind taking as many of them as possible with me.... ;)