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Locutus

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This is the Messianic temple that was being built when Peter spoke, along with foundation stones - the apostles:

Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Eph 2:22 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

To be looking for an earthly temple laid in dirt and built with masonry is plainly not found in the scriptures.
 

iamsoandso

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It didn't give a time, you have to look at Amos to get the time.

lol, if you look at the scriptures you gave from Acts it says when it would happen "after the gentiles were called out for his name" not before or during...
 
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lol, if you look at the scriptures you gave from Acts it says when it would happen "after the gentiles were called out for his name" not before or during...
No it doesn't lol. It says AFTER THIS... after the words preceeding verse 11.

Amos 9:11 KJV
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

The gentiles are part of the tabernacle of David, how can the tabernacle of David be built if the gentiles aren't called out? Get it... the building can't be built without the building materials lol.
 

iamsoandso

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No it doesn't lol. It says AFTER THIS... after the words preceeding verse 11.

Amos 9:11 KJV
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

The gentiles are part of the tabernacle of David, how can the tabernacle of David be built if the gentiles aren't called out? Get it... the building can't be built without the building materials lol.

lol...lol,,,
 
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go to verse 11 and explain "after' to me....
You can't figure out what preceeded verse 11?

Amos 9:8-10 KJV
Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the Lord .

[9] For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

[10] All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.

AFTER THAT is this:

Amos 9:11 KJV
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
 

iamsoandso

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You can't figure out what preceeded verse 11?

Amos 9:8-10 KJV
Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the Lord .

[9] For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

[10] All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.

AFTER THAT is this:

Amos 9:11 KJV
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

Acts 15:11 says that they believed they would be saved by grace even as they(gentiles) the scriptures you gave said when is it before during or after?
 
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Maybe the NASB will make more sense to you.

Acts 15:15-18New American Standard Bible (NASB)

15 With this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written,
16 After these things I will return,
And I will rebuild the [a]tabernacle of David which has fallen,
And I will rebuild its ruins,
And I will restore it,
17 So that the rest of [b]mankind may seek the Lord,
And all the Gentiles [c]who are called by My name,’
18 Says the Lord, who [d]makes these things known from long ago.

 

Locutus

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Act 15:16 After (Greek - meta) this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

Strongs

G3326 meta met-ah'

a primary preposition (often used adverbially);

properly, denoting accompaniment; "amid" (local or causal);

And "amid" would comply with Amos:

Amos 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:


No cookie for you Soandso...:p
 
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Acts 15:11 says that they believed they would be saved by grace even as they(gentiles) the scriptures you gave said when is it before during or after?
You need to learn how to read, I can't help you with that.
 
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He's parapharasing Hosea iamsoandso. AS IT IS WRITTEN, after these things.... the things that were written prior to verse 11 in Amos.
 
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lol I'm just glad everyone else can read along and keep up...
I realize it's hard to read things objectively when you have preconceived ideas. You have to drop those preconceived ideas and read the verses for EXACTLY what they say, not what you want them to say.
 
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ok before during or after?
After this:

Amos 9:8-10 KJV
Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the Lord .

[9] For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

[10] All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.

Then this happens:

Amos 9:11 KJV
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
 

iamsoandso

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look at post 5235 and use those scriptures that he was quoting when he gave the time.
 
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look at post 5235 and use those scriptures that he was quoting when he gave the time.
I'm done. I've been explaining the timing to you for the last 30 minutes and you still have no idea what those verses are saying and there's nothing I can say that I haven't already said to make it any clearer. I suggest you ask the Lord to show you.
 

Locutus

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look at post 5235 and use those scriptures that he was quoting when he gave the time.
It's how he understands it that counts - and for failing to quote his post, no cookie and you now get to stand in the corner..:p