The Covenants Of Mohammed
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K
No,Im not playing games.I quoted what you said.You are the one playing games. I read your OP and the article and so far am the only one who appears to have read the article. Im answering and discussing the article which is what you asked for. So stop changing and dodging what you are saying. Im not misquoting you,I used your exact words.
It is only by vague warnings and prophecies.
1 John 2:22 "Who is the liar? It is he who denies that Jesus is the Christ. It is the antichrist that denies the Father and the Son"
Note that it says he who denies that Jesus is the Son of God, not he who denies that Jesus was really a great guy. Honoring Him by saying He was good but then claiming He was not what He said He was is not honoring Him.
Well why dont you correct them when you see them instead of just making a thread to tell everyone here they know nothing and youre the expert?
And please tell us where we are getting the quran wrong.
I dont totally agree, we dont need to accept Muhammads message, but its good to know what he taught. Islam turns more god fearing people away from Christ than any other false doctrine in the world, its good to know how to argue it.
1 John 2:22 "Who is the liar? It is he who denies that Jesus is the Christ. It is the antichrist that denies the Father and the Son"
Note that it says he who denies that Jesus is the Son of God, not he who denies that Jesus was really a great guy. Honoring Him by saying He was good but then claiming He was not what He said He was is not honoring Him.
Well why dont you correct them when you see them instead of just making a thread to tell everyone here they know nothing and youre the expert?
And please tell us where we are getting the quran wrong.
I dont totally agree, we dont need to accept Muhammads message, but its good to know what he taught. Islam turns more god fearing people away from Christ than any other false doctrine in the world, its good to know how to argue it.
No he was NOT for Christ, he denies Jesus was crucified, denies He was Gods son, and denies the trinity flat out. That is all any born again Christian has to know to KNOW Mohammed was a false profit and Islam is an anti-Christ religion. I don't know what you're trying to sell here, but you are dead wrong.
I disagree YB.
Really the prophecy of the Temple Mount is Christ's great prophecy for our age.
Islam is Hagar , Mt Sinai.
Israel of the flesh is now camped on Sinai.
This is just basic stuff, and perhaps I am naive to think an honest scriptural discussion won't quickly degenerate into a "burn the berean" contest.
Really the prophecy of the Temple Mount is Christ's great prophecy for our age.
Islam is Hagar , Mt Sinai.
Israel of the flesh is now camped on Sinai.
This is just basic stuff, and perhaps I am naive to think an honest scriptural discussion won't quickly degenerate into a "burn the berean" contest.
K
And here we are again. People post and when they are held to their own words they put people on ignore.lol Such snowflakes. smh Tormenting a person by presenting FACTS and their OWN words? Where do these people come from. If they can't stand behind what they post why are they here? So tired of this nonsense. The OP doesn't want facts at all,they want their facts to be agreed with.
K
If you read the Quran and the Hadith you would understand that Islam is a very violent religion. The founder,Muhammad,was a violent murderer and people were to convert to Islam either by slavery or death. He killed a man once and forced his wife to have sex with him in the very blood of her husband.Do not be deceived,Islam is violent,allah is a false god and Muhammad was no prophet.
[video=youtube;qv1cWoa-N_U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv1cWoa-N_U&t=249s[/video]
The greatest threat to terrorist groups like the Islamic State, The Taliban, Boko Haram, Al-Shabaab, and Al-Qaeda, is not a UN resolution or the US Military. The greatest threat to terrorists is an informed population, because only an informed population can undermine the ideology that gives rise to jihad.
With this in mind, let's go through 10 facts about the Qur'an, history's
most effective manual for violently subjugating nations and cultures.
Fact number 1: The word Qur'an means recitation. The Qur'an is something that is supposed to be recited from memory. Muhammad and his companions weren't big on reading, and in Muhammad's time, portions of the Qur'an were only written down as memory aids. It wasn't until later that some of his followers came up with the idea of putting it all together into book form.
So, why would Muslims want to recite the Qur'an? Because:
Fact number 2: Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the word of Allah. The angel Gabriel, as the story goes, delivered verses to Mohammed, and Mohammad passed these verses on to his followers. But as far as the Qur'an is concerned, Gabriel and Muhammad were mailmen. It's the word of Allah not the words of Gabriel or Muhammad. Why do Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the word of Allah? Because:
Fact number 3: Muhammad said so.
The Qur'an was supposedly revealed to one man, Muhammad. Unlike the Bible, which contains numerous shorter works written by around 40 different authors, the Qur'an stands or falls with the lone testimony of Mohammed, a guy who's first impression of his revelations was that they were demonic, a guy who repeatedly tried to kill himself, a guy who believed he was the victim of magic spells that give him delusional thoughts and false beliefs. A guy who delivered versus to his followers and later blamed the devil for tricking him. A guy who had sex with a nine year old girl, had nine wives at one time, even though the Qur'an says Muslims can only have four, married the divorced wife of his own adopted son after causing the divorce; told his followers that it is okay to beat their wives into submission, and so on.
So... What evidence did Muhammad offer to show that his revelations were from Allah?
Fact number four: Muhammad's main argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an, was what we'll call the argument from literary excellence, one of the silliest arguments ever offered by anyone for anything. My poetry is better than your poetry,so my poetry must be the inspired word of Allah. The idea is that no one can produce something as wonderful as or more wonderful than the Qur'an.
Now, there are all kinds of things we could do to make the Qur'an better than it is. We could take out the verses about slaughtering unbelievers or about raping female captives or about having sex with pre-pubescent girls But one simple way to improve the Qur'an would be to put it in chronological order because:
Fact number 5: The Qur'an is not arranged chronologically. Apart from the first chapter, which is a short prayer, the rest of the Qur'an is basically arranged from the longest chapters to the shortest chapters. But the longer chapters were generally much later than the shorter chapters, so the Qur'an is thoroughly disorganized, making it very difficult to read. You might not care about the order, but it's actually extremely important, because"
Fact number 6: Some parts of the Qur'an abrogate or cancel other parts of the Qur'an. Later revelations typically abrogate earlier revelations, but since the Qur'an isn't arranged chronologically, we don't know which verses are cancelled, and which versus still apply, without massive collections of commentaries to help sift through this mess.
You will recall that the main argument for its divine origin is that it is so incredibly well-written, that it must be from God. Yes so wonderfully written that nobody can understand what they're supposed to do without consulting a team of scholars. This is my modern take on the Qur'an; what did Muhammad's contemporaries think of it?
Fact number seven: Muhammad's contemporaries were convinced that the Qur'an was plagiarized from earlier sources. How do we know what they thought about the Qur'an? We know because the Qur'an repeatedly tells us that Muhammad's contemporaries accused him of stealing his stories from others. How did Muhammad respond to charges of plagiarism? He declared that:
Fact number 8: The Qur'an is a continuation of previous scriptures. The reason so much the Qur'an sounded so familiar to the people of Arabia wasn't that Muhammad was plagiarizing earlier sources, those earlier sources were also the word of Allah. That's why they sounded the same!
Of course Muslims today know that those earlier sources thoroughly contradict the Qur'an, so they are forced to claim that the earlier sources were corrupted. This is extremely odd because:
Fact number 9: The Qur'an was only compiled into a book because much of it was lost. According to Muslim sources, entire chapters of the Qur'an were forgotten. Large passages came up missing, verses vanished. This is in spite of the fact that Allah promised, He promised in chapter 15 Verse 9, to protect the Qur'an from corruption. He couldn't do it, which calls into question the rest of what he said in the Qur'an. Why is this relevant? Because:
Fact number ten: The Qur'an is the highest authority on matters of sharia:
Raping female captives, beating women into submission, chopping off
hands for stealing, grown men marrying little girls. These things come
from this book (the Qur'an), which most certainly is not the word of God.
Learn these facts, my friends, and share them with others.
The greatest threat to terrorist groups like the Islamic State, The Taliban, Boko Haram, Al-Shabaab, and Al-Qaeda, is not a UN resolution or the US Military. The greatest threat to terrorists is an informed population, because only an informed population can undermine the ideology that gives rise to jihad.
With this in mind, let's go through 10 facts about the Qur'an, history's
most effective manual for violently subjugating nations and cultures.
Fact number 1: The word Qur'an means recitation. The Qur'an is something that is supposed to be recited from memory. Muhammad and his companions weren't big on reading, and in Muhammad's time, portions of the Qur'an were only written down as memory aids. It wasn't until later that some of his followers came up with the idea of putting it all together into book form.
So, why would Muslims want to recite the Qur'an? Because:
Fact number 2: Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the word of Allah. The angel Gabriel, as the story goes, delivered verses to Mohammed, and Mohammad passed these verses on to his followers. But as far as the Qur'an is concerned, Gabriel and Muhammad were mailmen. It's the word of Allah not the words of Gabriel or Muhammad. Why do Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the word of Allah? Because:
Fact number 3: Muhammad said so.
The Qur'an was supposedly revealed to one man, Muhammad. Unlike the Bible, which contains numerous shorter works written by around 40 different authors, the Qur'an stands or falls with the lone testimony of Mohammed, a guy who's first impression of his revelations was that they were demonic, a guy who repeatedly tried to kill himself, a guy who believed he was the victim of magic spells that give him delusional thoughts and false beliefs. A guy who delivered versus to his followers and later blamed the devil for tricking him. A guy who had sex with a nine year old girl, had nine wives at one time, even though the Qur'an says Muslims can only have four, married the divorced wife of his own adopted son after causing the divorce; told his followers that it is okay to beat their wives into submission, and so on.
So... What evidence did Muhammad offer to show that his revelations were from Allah?
Fact number four: Muhammad's main argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an, was what we'll call the argument from literary excellence, one of the silliest arguments ever offered by anyone for anything. My poetry is better than your poetry,so my poetry must be the inspired word of Allah. The idea is that no one can produce something as wonderful as or more wonderful than the Qur'an.
Now, there are all kinds of things we could do to make the Qur'an better than it is. We could take out the verses about slaughtering unbelievers or about raping female captives or about having sex with pre-pubescent girls But one simple way to improve the Qur'an would be to put it in chronological order because:
Fact number 5: The Qur'an is not arranged chronologically. Apart from the first chapter, which is a short prayer, the rest of the Qur'an is basically arranged from the longest chapters to the shortest chapters. But the longer chapters were generally much later than the shorter chapters, so the Qur'an is thoroughly disorganized, making it very difficult to read. You might not care about the order, but it's actually extremely important, because"
Fact number 6: Some parts of the Qur'an abrogate or cancel other parts of the Qur'an. Later revelations typically abrogate earlier revelations, but since the Qur'an isn't arranged chronologically, we don't know which verses are cancelled, and which versus still apply, without massive collections of commentaries to help sift through this mess.
You will recall that the main argument for its divine origin is that it is so incredibly well-written, that it must be from God. Yes so wonderfully written that nobody can understand what they're supposed to do without consulting a team of scholars. This is my modern take on the Qur'an; what did Muhammad's contemporaries think of it?
Fact number seven: Muhammad's contemporaries were convinced that the Qur'an was plagiarized from earlier sources. How do we know what they thought about the Qur'an? We know because the Qur'an repeatedly tells us that Muhammad's contemporaries accused him of stealing his stories from others. How did Muhammad respond to charges of plagiarism? He declared that:
Fact number 8: The Qur'an is a continuation of previous scriptures. The reason so much the Qur'an sounded so familiar to the people of Arabia wasn't that Muhammad was plagiarizing earlier sources, those earlier sources were also the word of Allah. That's why they sounded the same!
Of course Muslims today know that those earlier sources thoroughly contradict the Qur'an, so they are forced to claim that the earlier sources were corrupted. This is extremely odd because:
Fact number 9: The Qur'an was only compiled into a book because much of it was lost. According to Muslim sources, entire chapters of the Qur'an were forgotten. Large passages came up missing, verses vanished. This is in spite of the fact that Allah promised, He promised in chapter 15 Verse 9, to protect the Qur'an from corruption. He couldn't do it, which calls into question the rest of what he said in the Qur'an. Why is this relevant? Because:
Fact number ten: The Qur'an is the highest authority on matters of sharia:
Raping female captives, beating women into submission, chopping off
hands for stealing, grown men marrying little girls. These things come
from this book (the Qur'an), which most certainly is not the word of God.
Learn these facts, my friends, and share them with others.