The point is without parable Christ the word of God spoke not.Refusing to follow the prescriptions needed to rightfully divide does not make them without effect
I'm so tired of people trying to use the scripture above to demonstrate that we can't know what God is saying to us. So here is the scripture:
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The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”
He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.
Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. This is why I speak
to them in parables:
“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
“ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
For this people’s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.’
But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.
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So, the people that Jesus was speaking parables to was that generation of Israel and that in fulfillment of the prophecy of Isaiah against them.
Did you see the Lord's answer which says "But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear."?
In saying "Your eyes" he was speaking to the disciples and therefore all believers throughout the entire church period.
In short, the word of God is not a parable that the church cannot understand. The thousand is not a spiritual thousand so that its length can't be known.
He is intelligent enough to use His poetic language in a parable that hides the spiritual unseen meaning from the lost.We walk by faith that comes from hearing the spiritual understanding and not the temporal as that seen (the flesh of men)
Your error is in assuming that God was using poetifc language and that is a parable. There is nothing parabolic about Rev.20:1-7. When it states that Satan is going to be bound in the Abyss for a thousand years, that's what it means. When it states that they will rule with Christ for a thousand years, that's what it means.
A theme of a parable is symbolism representing what is literal. There is no spiritualism to it. The only spiritualism is in your own head.
Yes describing all the saints as his chaste virgin bride. "A great number which no man can count,"Not describing an outward unconverted Jew.
You have no clue as to what the word of God says and you therefore should not even utter scripture. All you are doing is aiding in its distortion.
Yes describing all the saints as his chaste virgin bride. "A great number which no man can count,"Not describing an outward unconverted Jew.
First of all, that great number of white robed saints is not the bride. This is who they are:
"After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language"
So according to the verse above, those in white robes which no man can count are Gentile believers, And then the elder tells John:
"These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
The same great tribulation that tanakh says is not mentioned anywhere in scripture, yet there it is right in plain view.
The very fact that the elder is asking John who this group is, demonstrates that they are not the church, not to mention that after the end of chapter 3 the word church is never used again. It drops out abruptly.
12,000 times twelve thousand (144,000) points to that one bride the whole church as His chaste virgin bride. Not a outward Jewish males that have no had a sexual experience.That kind of idea is foreign to the scriptures.At the most it looks to vererate Jewish flesh for some reason or other?
Well let's see if your assumption (an that is all that it is) is supported by scripture:
"Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel"
Nope! It doesn't! The scripture is clear in that they are 144,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel. John even breaks the 144,000 into 12,000 per tribe.
Garee, you have got parable on the brains! You invent things that are not there. You ignore the literal writing of scripture and opt for spiritual mumbo jumbo that isn't there.
He does not use the term "not really" when speaking n parables
My point being that, it is impossible for God to speak literally to you and people like you, because you don't believe his word, but instead you ignore what his word says and make up your own meaning.
Tribes signify gates by which we enter into fellowship with Christ not fellowship with the flesh of a outward Jew.
No, tribes do not signify gates, but is referring to the literal twelve tribes of Israel, which are called by name and your told right in the scripture that they come out of Israel.