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blue_ladybug

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Then she needs to take a break from here for awhile.. Go calm down, but she won't do that. She thinks it's funny to say all these hurtful things to people.. sad but true.. Instead, she's letting satan use her.. :(


I know not but you can see FranC is obviously very hurt.. I'm close to tears that this is taking place.. a sad sight. Nothing to gloat or gain say.
 
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I enjoyed the musical interlude. Need more of that here. If this thread were a movie that would be the theme song.
LOL What would you name the movie? Gone with the Winds of Doctrines or The Gong Show as in everyone that participates has gong loco?
 
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UnderGrace

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Thank you Stephen

It is not that I take it personally,

We know Jesus bore the sins of the world in tremendous love, but I think someone needs to self reflect on why this has been

said, even if this thread is so abhorrent to some it can never justify maligning the very blood of Christ




I'm just now seeing this, I'm that far behind.

I DON'T APPROVE WHATSOEVER OF SAYING CHRIST'S DYING FOR ANYONE WAS A WASTE!

I wouldn't say such a thing whether it was true or not!

Fran, you really ought to apologize to those involved.:(
 

Magenta

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(Ephesians 2:8-9) "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast."

(Rom. 3:20, 28)
"because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin...For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law."

(Galatians 2:16) "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified."
 
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This thread makes me think of this...

Which one am I?
Neither one.
Go find a better image.
I reject that one.

And go away.
We're having a fun time here.
Don't interrupt!
 
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Ugly

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I know not but you can see FranC is obviously very hurt.. I'm close to tears that this is taking place.. a sad sight. Nothing to gloat or gain say.
Actually i'm amazed you're taking sides at all. None of the involved are right. No matter if you're someones friend or not. There are no victims here.
 

loveme1

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Then she needs to take a break from here for awhile.. Go calm down, but she won't do that. She thinks it's funny to say all these hurtful things to people.. sad but true.. Instead, she's letting satan use her.. :(
Satan is not using FranC... Fran is having a moment as well all do.. a break would be good but love and care may be a start.
 
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Ugly

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Which one am I?
Neither one.
Go find a better image.
I reject that one.

And go away.
We're having a fun time here.
Don't interrupt!
It's no wonder you and Blue don't get along. You're so similar.
 
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Trouble is my friend it's not going to happen.
I wish it would.
Well, Bill,
I said it.

How come no one else can?

Know why?

THERE IS NO LOVE ON THIS THREAD.

But much hatred.
 
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I don't really think that it's a hate thread. It's sorta like an edgy version of the Speak Your Mind thread without the cookies. This thread has high entertainment value.
Friend, that's the first thing I can remember we disagree on.:)
 

AllenW

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Girl,
don't you be worried about my relationship with God.

YOU have enough worries of your own with that weird theology you believe in.

BTW, STUDY UP!
I just realized, blue bug has be on ignore so she doesn't see my posts on trying to make peace
so she's in her own little world with only the people she talks too
 
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I got lost in English class .I wish I did pay more attention you are much better at writtiing, sister .

I have been found without a righteousness of myself therfore saved by an imputed work of God who does work in the believer to both will and do His good pleasure. Will you be found with a righteousness of your own self like the man in Mathew 7 or one performed by a work of Christ's faith through the labor of God's love alone?

My (comments highlighted purple.)

Phi 3:9 And be found in him, "not having mine own righteousness", which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of (coming from)Christ, the righteousness which is of (coming from) God by faith......(that works in us)

What if some believe not (no faith)? Will there no faith make the faith of God work as a labor of His love without effect?

Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.For what if some did not believe?(no faith) shall their unbelief (no faith) make the "faith of God" without effect?(to effect is to work) God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. Rom 3:2

If I could add it seems to be what sister Magenta was sharing when she shared a verse from Romans 3.

No one is righteous of their own self like the man in Mathew 7. All who live in a body of sin, a body of death continue to sin and continual to fall short of the glory of God all the days of their lives not receiving the promise.
Well. Someone noticed!

And let me tell you something,
I could do much better than this,
but I like to downplay how I could really write.
It makes Others uncomfortable to read the English I'm capable of.
It's rather intimidating.

I didn't read the rest of your post.

It's too long and it looks too serious.

Instead of belittling me back when, you should have posted stuff like this that we could have discussed.
I really do know the N.T. REALLY well.

Too little, to late.
But thanks for the effort.
 

loveme1

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Actually i'm amazed you're taking sides at all. None of the involved are right. No matter if you're someones friend or not. There are no victims here.
I can comfort those in need if I wish.. just as you can be amazed at me doing so.. it is okay for everyone to take sides except me? Why not try and bring peace and comfort?
 

AllenW

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Satan is not using FranC... Fran is having a moment as well all do.. a break would be good but love and care may be a start.
there is only retaliation
that's what this thread is all about
self-righteousness and retaliation

an odd couple for sure
 
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No need for you to concern yourself with what keep means.

You have much greater problem to worry about.
Can't be any greater than life or death in interpreting the word . Are you refering to my age?.How do you define the word keep ?
 
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Nobody seems to know or interpret what the others are saying.

Has anyone else noticed this?
Only one problem with this statement.....it is not fully correct....we (those who believe the bible is clear on salvation being by grace, through faith without works added) fully understand that when someone states that works are NECESSARY to gain or keep salvation that they are pushing a dogma that has no power and that is false.....Galatians 1 and 3