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Blain

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You know the reason why I stopped being a pretrib believer? specifically because of such people. over and over again these so called scholars the watchmen of the wall these teachers these people who done the research and have narrowed it down to the T are all over youtube and all over the web. some do it simply for views and subscribers and thus make butt loads of money others do it with good intentions but are waaaay off the mentality to do it others still think themselves authorized by God to do these things and keep his church filled with hope for his return and yet the fact they continue try to predict when he will come and how they constantly are pulling at straws setting date and setting certain things and events to signify the time is near only brings more and more disappointment for those who believe them.

I was a new believer and I only learned about the rapture within the first nine months of being saved and I in my ignorance sought after such people on youtube many who i know now as false prophets and self declared speakers of god's words and voice utterly destroyed my hope in the rapture in fact it began to be so bad that the rapture was no longer hope for me I became so spiritually exhausted just hearing the word rapture and had to beg God to cut my ties with the rapture until I was mature and ready to grasp it and deal with it which I clearly was not.

Even now as much I want to believe in it as much as I want to have hope that he might be that close to taking us home I am still unable to allow myself to for fear of being destroyed like I was before. I checked up on these false teachers and false prophets a while back to see if they had maybe had a change of heart but what I saw was that they are continuing their same things and what infuriated me was how so many people were buying into it and being misled. The damage such people did me....I cannot bear the thought of them doing this to so many others and it infuriated me I was so angry that they would continue to do this and damage people giving them false hope only to be let down but such people have not yet learned what is going on and so even though they are continually let down they still cling to these teachers.

The protective anger that father feels for his children that fire that burns in his eyes, when I saw this I knew it all to well even just speaking of it and remembering it makes me boil inside
 

blue_ladybug

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I read the title of this and thought, "what in the world".. lol
 

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They forgot about the re-make of Phil Collin's song "I can feel it coming in the air tonight".
 
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Sept. 23 comes to mind, and you in particular warning me for not seeing the signs in the sky!

This article has picked up to Dec. 31, 2018. But you would know that, had you read the post!
I never said one time that the end would be on Sept. 23rd.....so....post where I said emphatically the end would be here on the 23rd of September....I will wait
 
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I know this has been clearly covered in our numerous Dooms Day Threads, and clearly Babylon Bee has been in the BDF checking out prophecy, but I thought the precise version, "18 reasons the rapture will be in 2018" was pretty accurate!


At some point, every believer has wondered if the Rapture is imminent. It’s only natural to ask if Jesus is coming back today, tomorrow, or in fifty years. Now, we know that Jesus told us we can’t know the day or the hour, but we’re pretty sure we are the exception—because we’ve been staring pretty hard at star charts, numbers, newspaper headlines, and yes, even our Bibles, and we’ve cracked the code.

Jesus will return by December 31, 2018. There are millions of pieces of evidence all throughout the Bible, but we’ve narrowed it down to just the top 18. You’ll be convinced—we guarantee it.
1.) He didn’t come back every other time some quack predicted it, so this time it must be true. Every time someone’s come along and claimed that Jesus would come back in 1988, 2000, or 2012, that person’s been wrong. So the law of averages would seem to suggest that we’ve gotta be right at least one time. Maybe this is the one!
2.) The final “TRUMP” has resounded. Donald Trump = fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Make prophecy great again!
3.) We’re not totally sure how Obama ties in, but rest assured it’s all his fault. Thanks, Obama!
4.) 2018 breaks down to the formula 2 x 0 – 1 + 8 = 7, the number of the Lord. Wow! This is powerful evidence that 2018 is the year the great tribulation will kick off.
5.) The sheeple are finally waking up to global conspiracies like chemtrails, the moon landing hoax, and the globe earth myth. The new world order is going to rise up to crush those who have discovered the truth that we’re living on a flat earth and we’re covered in nasty government chem trails. The tribulation will soon follow these upheavals! Stay strong, Christian soldiers!
6.) Something about Israel and a bear and a dragon. Israel is a nation again, and the Bible talks about bears and dragons and harlots and stuff. We’re not sure how that all connects, but you’d better look to the skies. It’s happening!
7.) The 2010 Karate Kid remake. Our top sources in the spiritual realm told us that judgment day was moved up a few centuries once Jaden Smith’s remake of the classic ’80s film hit theatres.
8.) Hal Lindsey got raptured last week, and the Bible says he will be taken roughly one year before everyone else. This fulfillment of biblical prophecy puts the start of the tribulation squarely in 2018. Hal Lindsey’s rapture was just the firstfruits of what is coming.
9.) Well, whaddya know. The laptop we’re typing this up on just hit 18% battery life. Coincidence? I think not. Make sure to pay attention to seemingly random numbers throughout your day, and you too can become a biblical numerology expert.
10.) Stranger Things hit in 2016. Stranger Things Season 2 hits in 2017.What does this leave for us in 2018? Nothing but fire and brimstone.
11.) Some guy on the internet told us so in a crazed YouTube video called WEEKLY PROPHECY UPDATE. What’s more reliable than reading prophetic texts with a grounded hermeneutic? Crazed YouTube videos, that’s what! If a guy who calls himself the Third Eagle of the Apocalypse says Jesus is coming back, who are we to question him?
12.) Tim Keller’s church recently pulled off this really weird ballet dance thing that made us kinda uncomfortable. We watched this video earlier this year, and we weren’t sure what we were seeing, but we’re gonna have to err on the side of caution and conclude it’s a pretty clear sign that the coming of the Lord is at hand.
13.) Climate change is making hurricanes and turning the frogs gay. Every time the average global temperature moves up a tick, the Lord is one step closer to whisking us all way to the sky. Not to mention all the hurricanes and gay frogs! Hurry up, Jesus!
14.) The voices in my head told me so. We’ve all been having these crazy dreams where a voice whispers, “Jesus is coming back in 2018” very clearly to us. The voice sounds a little bit like Christopher Walken. Preeeeeeetty sure that’s indisputable proof of a 2018 rapture date.
15.) We bought Chick-fil-A for lunch recently and the total was $20.18. Can you say “sign from God?” Because we sure can!
16.) 2018 backwards is 8102, which probably has something to do with Daniel or Revelation or something. Amazing!
17.) If you stay up for 48 hours straight, drink lots of coffee, and squint really hard at “2018” it kinda looks like Jesus. Try it. It really works! This is just more confirmation that our prophecy is going to come true!
18.) Because nobody will buy a prophecy book that says we simply can’t know when the End Times will kick off. We’re gonna level with you here: we simply can’t sell you a boring line like “Jesus is coming soon, but we’re not sure exactly when, so trust in Him for salvation and pursue holiness.” How many copies would that book sell? 3 or 4? But if we set a date, we’re sure to rake in the big book royalty dollars.
There you have it, crystal clear! Now get your affairs in order!
Note: Due to the volatile nature of biblical prophecy, The Babylon Bee reserves the right to retract our prediction after 12:00 a.m. on January 1, 2019, postpone the date by a couple years, and retain all credibility as a source of prophetic predictions. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

18 Reasons The Rapture Will Be In 2018

PS I am not mocking God, but rather hysterical dispensationalists! I'm always looking forward to the return of Jesus!
But how do people put up with the disappointment when every prophecy proves false? Asking for a friend!

too bad you added that last bit about hysterical dispensationalists because they are far from alone
 
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Sept. 23 comes to mind, and you in particular warning me for not seeing the signs in the sky!

This article has picked up to Dec. 31, 2018. But you would know that, had you read the post!
MY THREAD is as follows and our exchanges..........SHOW ME where I set a date and warned you about anything other than your incessant attack and very rude, mouthy comments just because I posted something and ASKED A FEW QUESTIONS.......

For Signs.....1st on the List
In Genesis 1:14-19 God establishes the sun, moon and stars....he then lists 4 things they would be used for....Signs is first on the list.....throughout history we see the sun, moon and stars being used by God in unique ways to work his will or announce his will and this very applicable truth is woven throughout the bible with many events such as

Exodus <--Three days and nights of darkness Exodus 10:21-22
Joshua <--The sun and moon held in place almost a day Joshua 10:13
Job <----The 12 signs of the Mazzaroth and other astronomical events mentioned Job 26:11, 13-14 and Job 38:32
Hezekiah and proof he would live<---2nd Kings 20:9-11 and Isaiah 38:8
Jesus and his birth<---Matthew 2:1-2

Having said this.....On September the 23rd, only once in like an estimated 7000 years and after the Feast of the Trumpets which starts at sunset on the 21st and ends at sunset on the 23rd the stars, planets, sun and moon will align to mirror the sign found in Revelation 12......

What do you all think about this and do you believe this is significant.......

A sign from the God of heaven to humanity?


YOUR MOUTHY RESPONSE


Originally Posted by Angela53510

First, using the zodiac to predict the future is New Age and occult. Forget this nonsense about "Biblical" astronomy. Different cultures have called the patterns in the sky by totally different names. And this entire thread is about trying to use earthly signs, like astrology, to predict the end.

This is not prophecy or interpretation at all! It is evil, because Satan originated the whole concept of the zodiac. Yes, they are God's stars. He put them in place and started them in motion! The catch is that as the solar system travels through the universe, the constellations relative to us, change! The constellations that existed in John's time, it for that matter, when God created the universe have changed! They are variable, and should not be used for this kind of New Age prophecy thinly disguised with a few Scriptures, as usual, torn out of context.

The fact is, Jesus told us the one sign that matters in Matt 24!

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." Matt 24:14

How I long for the time when I can come to the BDF and see threads about the new countries and tribes where the gospel is being preached! How marvellous to hear of whole cultures coming to Christ!

This whole idle speculation is typical of American culture, which is all about self! About Jesus coming for me! Not about Jesus returning to a world, where there will be people from "every tribe and kindred!"

If you want to look at Revelation, try this verse!

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After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands." Rev 7:9

How did all that multitude get there? Well, someone preached the gospel to them! That is God's Plan A, and there is no Plan B!

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How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?" Romans 10:14

Some if you have heard me say this before! I am pointing no fingers. But are you part of the problem, sitting around looking at the sky for Jesus return?

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Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.” Acts 1:11

Or, are you part of the solution -preaching the gospel to the lost, at home and abroad? And if you can't go, then pray for God to send forth workers into the fields, which are ripe for harvest.

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Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest." Matt 9:28

Please stop this idle and fruitless chatter, and instead, let us focus on doing the task every Christian has been called to do! And that is share the gospel with the lost!

MY REPLY

Go study the Mazzaroth mentioned in job then mouth.....I personally am tired of every time someone posts something you chime in Angela with this ALL knowing wisdom and then began touting your education....the bible is clear...the first on the list is SIGNS and then SEASONS and the bible is equally clear that BIBLICAL ASTRONOMY IS ACCEPTABLE AND NOT SOMETHING TO BE DISMISSED! The only idle chatter is your diatribe against most threads...THIS IS BIBLE discussion and the BIBLE contains way more than just the gospel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND if you don't like the subject.....go find a thread you can rip someone else in!

YOUR RESPONSE

Funny, I reread my post, and I can't find a single mention of my "education!"

It had nothing to do with my education, and everything to do with being saved out of the New Age movement, which I was involved long before I had an undergrad degree, let alone post grad!

I saw this same type of drivel being pushed in the New Age movement, except then, it was the coming of gurus, ascended masters and the matreya! Signs and wonders in the zodiac. The exact same contents as this post, and you know, they would often refer to the Bible.

I think it is important to warn people away from this kind of nonsense. You start a thread with garbage, expect to have it criticized. Not because I am smart or educated, but because of how God delivered me from the New Age movement.

Sorry, you don't frighten me! Not likely I will be leaving, and I will stand against people who put together posts which are lacking in Biblical content, and instead incorporating the evils of the New Age movement.

Desert Rose posted an excellent critique on this prediction back on page 1, which is why I didn't get into the more technical aspects of this fad. Perhaps, Dcon, you should go back and read it, to see how absurd this whole thread and the idea it pushes us!

By the way, I learned about the constellations of the zodiac changing over the millennia from an astrologer, before I was saved. She read my chart, and nothing corresponded to actual life events. Even this astrologer figured out the basic astrophysics principle, that the stars don't influence. I don't happen to think God will use them to presage his return, either! JMO! Certainly not badly thought out ones like the OP!

MY RESPONSE

So what......you learned from an astrologer....I learned for JOB and his UNDER INSPIRATION allusion to it (THE MAZZAROTH) and MOSES when he was inspired to write of the SIGNS and SEASONS associated with the SUN, MOON and STARS......NEXT.......and LUKE must be retarded as well when he was inspired to write what he wrote about the fearful signs and sights in the heaven....and lastly...just because you were one time sold out to new ageism and astrology does not mean the scriptures that deal with it makes one of the same caliber....wake up and push your drivel someplace else Angie
 
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Nehemiah6

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IMO When in Mt 24:34 Jesus says this generation shall not pass away He refers to the generation that witnesses the rebirth of national Israel. This in effect says that at least one person who was alive on 11/18/1948 will live to experience either the rapture or Jesus' return or both.
Marc,

This is a commonly held interpretation, but it would be better to take the meaning of genea in that verse as "this nation", since it can mean race, family, or generation, and would be applicable to Jews.

Strong's Concordance
genea: race, family, generation
Original Word: γενεά, ᾶς, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: genea
Phonetic Spelling: (ghen-eh-ah')
Short Definition: a generation
Definition: a generation; if repeated twice or with another time word, practically indicates infinity of time.

γενεάν αὐτῆς, Josephus, Antiquities 5, 1, 5. the several ranks in a natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy: Matthew 1:17 (ἑβδόμῃγενεά οὗτος ἐστιν ἀπό τοῦ πρώτου, Philo, vit. Moys. i. § 2).
b. metaphorically, a race of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character; and especially in a bad sense a perverse race: Matthew 17:17; Mark 9:19; Luke 9:41; Luke 16:8; (Acts 2:40).

So what Jesus was saying (with the full knowledge that the Jews would be dispersed in 70 AD and would have no nation until 1948) is that the "race" or"family" of Israel would not pass way -- or be obliterated -- until all these things were fulfilled. Keeping in mind that Christendom believed for centuries that the Church had replaced Israel while the Muslims occupied Palestine. this is a more plausible interpretation. After 1948 people began to see that Israel would be a nation at the time of the second coming of Christ. And now it is evident.

It is interesting to see how some (not speaking of you) would smear all Dispensationalists with the same brush applied to the date-setters (who may or may not be Dispensationalists.). I read something about "hysterical Dispensationalists" on this thread. It goes to show how prone Christians are to put down those who do not hold to their views. Well to me it matters not, since Dispensationalism is the only hermeneutic system which does not ignore (or change the meaning of) large chunks of Scripture or deem them irrelevant.
 

davida

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This kind of anti-intellectual attitude is what fuels this sort of eschatological madness!

Paul was highly educated, and yet God saved him! Luke was a doctor, and his Greek is complex and advanced. I'm reading Luke in Greek right now, and it is not a walk in the park. Hebrews was written by a real scholar. Then there was Nicodemus, a Pharisee, and Jesus imparted some of the most important information we have on salvation, in John 3! Joseph of Arimethea was another Pharisee who not only followed Jesus, but arranged to have the body of the crucified Jesus laid in his tomb. That would mean he could not use it!

So you are wrong in 2 counts! Many Pharisees did not miss his first coming!

As for the second coming, what does the Bible say?

"Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,
“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
and every tongue shall confess to God.” Romans 14:10b-11



"So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” 9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. 10 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, 11 and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.” Acts1:6-11

Does this sound secret? Does this say you will know the day, the times or the seasons?

NO! It says everyone is going to know and see it happen. Some may have missed the first coming of Jesus Christ, but let me assure you, no one is going to miss the second coming!
My degree is in accounting. I have no problem with intellectuals only with the pompous
 

davida

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And I was not referencing the Second coming but the Rapture. I see why your inferences are faulty if you did not see my reply with regard to the topic of your thread or was this an effort of setting up a strawman claiming I said something I did not say.
 
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This kind of anti-intellectual attitude is what fuels this sort of eschatological madness!

Paul was highly educated, and yet God saved him! Luke was a doctor, and his Greek is complex and advanced. I'm reading Luke in Greek right now, and it is not a walk in the park. Hebrews was written by a real scholar. Then there was Nicodemus, a Pharisee, and Jesus imparted some of the most important information we have on salvation, in John 3! Joseph of Arimethea was another Pharisee who not only followed Jesus, but arranged to have the body of the crucified Jesus laid in his tomb. That would mean he could not use it!

So you are wrong in 2 counts! Many Pharisees did not miss his first coming!

As for the second coming, what does the Bible say?

"Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,
“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
and every tongue shall confess to God.” Romans 14:10b-11



"So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” 9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. 10 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, 11 and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.” Acts1:6-11

Does this sound secret? Does this say you will know the day, the times or the seasons?

NO! It says everyone is going to know and see it happen. Some may have missed the first coming of Jesus Christ, but let me assure you, no one is going to miss the second coming!
Excellent response that will tick off the pompous anti-intellectuals! :D
 
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This is very true :)




I meant on CC......and as far as the Pharisee comment above...both SAUL and Nicodemus had to be educated before they understood the full scope of JESUS and what he was about....just saying....
 

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I know this has been clearly covered in our numerous Dooms Day Threads, and clearly Babylon Bee has been in the BDF checking out prophecy, but I thought the precise version, "18 reasons the rapture will be in 2018" was pretty accurate!


At some point, every believer has wondered if the Rapture is imminent. It’s only natural to ask if Jesus is coming back today, tomorrow, or in fifty years. Now, we know that Jesus told us we can’t know the day or the hour, but we’re pretty sure we are the exception—because we’ve been staring pretty hard at star charts, numbers, newspaper headlines, and yes, even our Bibles, and we’ve cracked the code.

Jesus will return by December 31, 2018. There are millions of pieces of evidence all throughout the Bible, but we’ve narrowed it down to just the top 18. You’ll be convinced—we guarantee it.
1.) He didn’t come back every other time some quack predicted it, so this time it must be true. Every time someone’s come along and claimed that Jesus would come back in 1988, 2000, or 2012, that person’s been wrong. So the law of averages would seem to suggest that we’ve gotta be right at least one time. Maybe this is the one!
2.) The final “TRUMP” has resounded. Donald Trump = fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Make prophecy great again!
3.) We’re not totally sure how Obama ties in, but rest assured it’s all his fault. Thanks, Obama!
4.) 2018 breaks down to the formula 2 x 0 – 1 + 8 = 7, the number of the Lord. Wow! This is powerful evidence that 2018 is the year the great tribulation will kick off.
5.) The sheeple are finally waking up to global conspiracies like chemtrails, the moon landing hoax, and the globe earth myth. The new world order is going to rise up to crush those who have discovered the truth that we’re living on a flat earth and we’re covered in nasty government chem trails. The tribulation will soon follow these upheavals! Stay strong, Christian soldiers!
6.) Something about Israel and a bear and a dragon. Israel is a nation again, and the Bible talks about bears and dragons and harlots and stuff. We’re not sure how that all connects, but you’d better look to the skies. It’s happening!
7.) The 2010 Karate Kid remake. Our top sources in the spiritual realm told us that judgment day was moved up a few centuries once Jaden Smith’s remake of the classic ’80s film hit theatres.
8.) Hal Lindsey got raptured last week, and the Bible says he will be taken roughly one year before everyone else. This fulfillment of biblical prophecy puts the start of the tribulation squarely in 2018. Hal Lindsey’s rapture was just the firstfruits of what is coming.
9.) Well, whaddya know. The laptop we’re typing this up on just hit 18% battery life. Coincidence? I think not. Make sure to pay attention to seemingly random numbers throughout your day, and you too can become a biblical numerology expert.
10.) Stranger Things hit in 2016. Stranger Things Season 2 hits in 2017.What does this leave for us in 2018? Nothing but fire and brimstone.
11.) Some guy on the internet told us so in a crazed YouTube video called WEEKLY PROPHECY UPDATE. What’s more reliable than reading prophetic texts with a grounded hermeneutic? Crazed YouTube videos, that’s what! If a guy who calls himself the Third Eagle of the Apocalypse says Jesus is coming back, who are we to question him?
12.) Tim Keller’s church recently pulled off this really weird ballet dance thing that made us kinda uncomfortable. We watched this video earlier this year, and we weren’t sure what we were seeing, but we’re gonna have to err on the side of caution and conclude it’s a pretty clear sign that the coming of the Lord is at hand.
13.) Climate change is making hurricanes and turning the frogs gay. Every time the average global temperature moves up a tick, the Lord is one step closer to whisking us all way to the sky. Not to mention all the hurricanes and gay frogs! Hurry up, Jesus!
14.) The voices in my head told me so. We’ve all been having these crazy dreams where a voice whispers, “Jesus is coming back in 2018” very clearly to us. The voice sounds a little bit like Christopher Walken. Preeeeeeetty sure that’s indisputable proof of a 2018 rapture date.
15.) We bought Chick-fil-A for lunch recently and the total was $20.18. Can you say “sign from God?” Because we sure can!
16.) 2018 backwards is 8102, which probably has something to do with Daniel or Revelation or something. Amazing!
17.) If you stay up for 48 hours straight, drink lots of coffee, and squint really hard at “2018” it kinda looks like Jesus. Try it. It really works! This is just more confirmation that our prophecy is going to come true!
18.) Because nobody will buy a prophecy book that says we simply can’t know when the End Times will kick off. We’re gonna level with you here: we simply can’t sell you a boring line like “Jesus is coming soon, but we’re not sure exactly when, so trust in Him for salvation and pursue holiness.” How many copies would that book sell? 3 or 4? But if we set a date, we’re sure to rake in the big book royalty dollars.
There you have it, crystal clear! Now get your affairs in order!
Note: Due to the volatile nature of biblical prophecy, The Babylon Bee reserves the right to retract our prediction after 12:00 a.m. on January 1, 2019, postpone the date by a couple years, and retain all credibility as a source of prophetic predictions. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

18 Reasons The Rapture Will Be In 2018

PS I am not mocking God, but rather hysterical dispensationalists! I'm always looking forward to the return of Jesus!
But how do people put up with the disappointment when every prophecy proves false? Asking for a friend!
LOLOL. I think I will make plans to go hog hunting in January of 2019. No fear of any of this going down. This is the type of nonsense that pops up when people refuse to allow scripture to define its own definition of revealed symbols.
 

davida

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Excellent response that will tick off the pompous anti-intellectuals! :D
What would you say to Jesus if He wanted to discuss Genesis with you?

That you threw out the writings of Moses??????
 

davida

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Not hardly. Why would you ask such a thing?
I would ask this because of your statement and i quote " I threw away the writings of Moses when he killed that egyptian guy".

i thought of Jesus walking with the disciples, if you were walking with Him is the above what you would say to Him?

Do you not believe Moses was inspired by the Holy Spirit?

Not trying to be unkind but are you thinking that is funny? I do not understand when in many countries it is illegal to possess a Bible....
 
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I would ask this because of your statement and i quote " I threw away the writings of Moses when he killed that egyptian guy".

i thought of Jesus walking with the disciples, if you were walking with Him is the above what you would say to Him?

Do you not believe Moses was inspired by the Holy Spirit?

Not trying to be unkind but are you thinking that is funny? I do not understand when in many countries it is illegal to possess a Bible....
Nope, no disrespect to Moses, and of course I believe in plenary inspiration.

The quote was made in light of those who attack John Calvin and the many things he has written and accuse him of murder, and shun his good teachings due to that. Of course he never actually murdered anyone so the accusation is false and generally stems for a hatred of the doctrines of grace, the doctrines of election, predestination &c.

So, I made the quote.

Yes, I realize the writings of Calvin and other theologians are not Scripture, not even close, but God gave us such men, Ephesians 4:11. Not one of them are perfect, nor was Moses. Thus my point.

Many seem to forget Moses was a murderer. And David as well. Not to mention each of us have murdered another in some aspect or another.
 

Angela53510

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And I was not referencing the Second coming but the Rapture. I see why your inferences are faulty if you did not see my reply with regard to the topic of your thread or was this an effort of setting up a strawman claiming I said something I did not say.

Well, since I don't see the word rapture in my Bible, in any of the 4 languages I read, including Greek and Hebrew, it is you have faulty inferences. Again, I have repeated stood against dispensationalists madness, exactly because of what I see over and over in this forum. And Babylon Bee seems to have seen it too!

I'm not going to debate the ridiculousness of this imaginary secret rapture, I have posted enough on other threads! This thread was supposed to be fun, but I should have realized that some people without a sense of humour would have taken it badly!
 

Dino246

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... This thread was supposed to be fun, but I should have realized that some people without a sense of humour would have taken it badly!
Unfortunately, at least in this forum, it seems that any attempt at humour must be preceded by caveats, trigger warnings, explanations, apologies, and of course, declarations that This Is Not Personal, lest anyone take you seriously. Of course, so many people jump into a thread mid-stream that regardless of the above, someone is still going to take you seriously.

Methinks some people wear permanently-twisted knickers.
 

Blain

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Unfortunately, at least in this forum, it seems that any attempt at humour must be preceded by caveats, trigger warnings, explanations, apologies, and of course, declarations that This Is Not Personal, lest anyone take you seriously. Of course, so many people jump into a thread mid-stream that regardless of the above, someone is still going to take you seriously.

Methinks some people wear permanently-twisted knickers.
The only reason I don't have those knickers is because someone stole mine:cool: