The Rapture

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Allenbee I am curious as to what you mean by EXODUS NOW? What exactly does this entail? I have seen you use the phrase quite a few times, yet the meaning of it is lost on me.
Could you explain what you mean by that? I do not get it.
 
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heartofdavid

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Rev 12;
“A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head”.

First…. we identify the woman;
To me… this “woman” is depicting the righteous of the earth , who have sun for day and moon at night. These righteous are son’s of GOD since mother Eve. The “woman” at Geneses 3;15 who crushes Satan’s head… at end times.

V 10; “For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, (the woman)
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
11 They triumphed over him
by the blood of the Lamb
(Christian’s)
and by the word of their testimony; (good news of the KINGDOM . Math 24;14).
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death”. (These ones martyred are raptured as firstfruits . Math 24;31

So… right now today, and tomorrow… satan is accusing man of loving his way ; “eating and drinking and marrying” , as the rich get richer and the poor poorer, whereas GOD’S WILL is for man to SHARE the earth.

So that is exactly why I believe we are to EXODUS from Satan’s evil Babylon, to prove Satan a liar. To “flee to the mountains” BEFORE the tribulation at Math 24; 6-14 to live GOD’S WAY keeping all his laws and statutes.”The voice in the wilderness” in the spirit of Elijah, BEFORE and DURING the great tribulation. BEFORE our Lord returns… which is; ”immediately after the tribulation of those days”. Math 24;29

Some raptured and some on earth…the woman.


13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.
The birth is CAUSED by the woman who OBEYED our Lord to flee… to live GOD’S WAY, thereby proving satan a LIAR.
BUT… still they preach the good news of the Kingdom, to help those still in satans Babylon to GET OUT… UNTIL Satan is cast out of heaven… PERMANENTLY :

NOW Satan is on earth as a man with all his demons !!! THIS… is the man of lawlessness, "the disgusting thing causing desolation", and will stand in the the holy place, claiming to be GOD and can bring fire down from heaven, to mislead even the chosen ones.

BUT;

14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. (Christians and Messianic Jews).

“EXODUS… movement of JAH people” …. Bob Marley :p (haha...sorry bout that, but a good song).

SO… “to flee to the mountains” to live GOD’s WAY,is before the first 3 ½ years of the great tribulation at Math 24;6-14, but preaching the good news of the Kingdom to call as many as possible out of Babylons destruction.

UNTIL... we see the SIGN of our lord’s presence, at Math 24;30. (the great crowd at Rev 7;9-17, h; "In sight of the throne and the lamb"). NO MORE are we part of satans nations "eating and drinking" who mourne at the sign.

THEN... we “fly to the wilderness” permanently, AWAY … from the face of the Serpent, and the justified WRATH of GOD… LEAD by our Lord and King…JESUS, for the final 3 ½ years.


GOD’S WILL for the earth , mankind, and all HIS creation at GENESES is realized at Rev 21; 3-4; “The tent of GOD will be with mankind”.

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Oh cheer up you rapture freaks…you get wings with everlasting life
;), as the earth now becomes part of GOD’s ever expanding universe. YES we will be able to “materialize” and “dematerialize” as our Lord showed us.
Forget your selfish beliefs and rather DO… GOD’S WILL… for earth and mankind.

Makes sense to me...TO BE WITH THE LORD !!!
Amazing that the obvious is off the table,but this wild ride is supposed to be taken seriously.
 

Allenbee

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Sorry...I've studied end time prophesy for so long, "EXODUS" eventually became very obvious to me, as I found it in all the end time prophets especially Isaiah.

Ok...you do know from Math 24, a great tribulation is the next BIG thing to happen on earth...right.
Now EXODUS TODAY... is because events on earth today, have the whole Christian world agreeing the GT it is happening, or very near.
AND it is before our Lord returns, as he appears "immediately after the tribulation"...OK !

SO...SURELY our Lord will show HIS BELIEVERS how to avoid this tribulation.
So the pretrib rapture was invented to avoid this tribulation, but I do not believe we were put on earth... to all go to heaven !!!

Anyway, you do know Satan is the ruler of this evil mess we are in today, and before man can destroy GOD's beautiful creation with the looming nuclear wars etc, HE will destroy satans Babylon rule, and flatten all cities, factories, power stations, weapons of war... just everything...to protect HIS creation...the earth. THAT is the reason for the great tribulation...and it MUST happen.

What about us...mankind ?

So... when we know what GOD will target... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know we should flee from the targets worldwide.
To exodus satans Babylon... is to flee from it. Simple as that, but do not flee alone. Flee as an Ecclesias (church).

Does God have a problem with the earths wilderness ? Definitely not, as this is HIS creation.

I'm in the hell of South Africa, but in this otherwise very beautiful country we have vast mountainous area's, very sparsely populated, or not at all. So I seek EXODUS believers here, and the plan is a "Christian Kibbutz" type of self sufficient town. A daughter of Zion, as MT Zion will fill the whole earth when our King arrives.

My advice to everybody, is to seek EXODUS believers wherever you are.

Remember... use your money wisely, keeping on the watch.

And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

20In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;
21To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
22Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?

Isn't this better;
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
4And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
5O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.

The WHOLE house of Jacob...sons of Abraham... the end time "the Israel of God".
 

Allenbee

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exodus belief inputs;

America; Messianic Jew; Mote Judah - The greater Exodus - lion and lamb ministries.

America; Messianic Gentile (Christian)- The greater Exodus - NEW2TORA - Zac Bauer.

Google those if interested, for videos and insight, as we all still learning.

Peace my brothers
 
May 11, 2014
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exodus belief inputs;

America; Messianic Jew; Mote Judah - The greater Exodus - lion and lamb ministries.

America; Messianic Gentile (Christian)- The greater Exodus - NEW2TORA - Zac Bauer.

Google those if interested, for videos and insight, as we all still learning.

Peace my brothers
Be careful with Monte Judah and his ministry.
Another messianic jew named michael brown has critized him for saying that the book of hebrews should not be in the bible. Beware of monte judah.
 
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heartofdavid

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Sorry...I've studied end time prophesy for so long, "EXODUS" eventually became very obvious to me, as I found it in all the end time prophets especially Isaiah.

Ok...you do know from Math 24, a great tribulation is the next BIG thing to happen on earth...right.
Now EXODUS TODAY... is because events on earth today, have the whole Christian world agreeing the GT it is happening, or very near.
AND it is before our Lord returns, as he appears "immediately after the tribulation"...OK !

SO...SURELY our Lord will show HIS BELIEVERS how to avoid this tribulation.
So the pretrib rapture was invented to avoid this tribulation, but I do not believe we were put on earth... to all go to heaven !!!

Anyway, you do know Satan is the ruler of this evil mess we are in today, and before man can destroy GOD's beautiful creation with the looming nuclear wars etc, HE will destroy satans Babylon rule, and flatten all cities, factories, power stations, weapons of war... just everything...to protect HIS creation...the earth. THAT is the reason for the great tribulation...and it MUST happen.

What about us...mankind ?

So... when we know what GOD will target... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know we should flee from the targets worldwide.
To exodus satans Babylon... is to flee from it. Simple as that, but do not flee alone. Flee as an Ecclesias (church).

Does God have a problem with the earths wilderness ? Definitely not, as this is HIS creation.

I'm in the hell of South Africa, but in this otherwise very beautiful country we have vast mountainous area's, very sparsely populated, or not at all. So I seek EXODUS believers here, and the plan is a "Christian Kibbutz" type of self sufficient town. A daughter of Zion, as MT Zion will fill the whole earth when our King arrives.

My advice to everybody, is to seek EXODUS believers wherever you are.

Remember... use your money wisely, keeping on the watch.

And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

20In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;
21To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
22Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?

Isn't this better;
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
4And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
5O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.

The WHOLE house of Jacob...sons of Abraham... the end time "the Israel of God".
Each person has a destiny

Like Paul I say occupy till PERSONAL REVELATION tells me otherwise. " ...i am not willing to suffer shipwreck only,but to die also for my appointment..."

Paul was not into "fearful fleeing"

Jesus said " he who loves his life will loose it..."
 
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heartofdavid

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Be careful with Monte Judah and his ministry.
Another messianic jew named michael brown has critized him for saying that the book of hebrews should not be in the bible. Beware of monte judah.
I like mike brown
 
Apr 23, 2017
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how does this work with pre-trib rapture:

luke 17:29
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
 
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how does this work with pre-trib rapture:

luke 17:29
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
It works with pre wrath gathering and not being subjected to the wrath of God just as Noah speaks of it also. The angels told Lot they could not do anything until Lot left if I am remembering correctly. This is because God does not destroy the righteous with the wicked and does not pour His wrath on the righteous. Although there is that one chilling verse in which He does say He will destroy the righteous along with the wicked that no one can explain fully...
 
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It works with pre wrath gathering and not being subjected to the wrath of God just as Noah speaks of it also. The angels told Lot they could not do anything until Lot left if I am remembering correctly. This is because God does not destroy the righteous with the wicked and does not pour His wrath on the righteous. Although there is that one chilling verse in which He does say He will destroy the righteous along with the wicked that no one can explain fully...
where is that chilling verse u see?
 
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In fact when I googled it, I found a post of mine from 6 or 7 years ago about it on another forum. Funny. You wouldn't think my post on another forum from that long ago would be at the top of the search because surely the verse has troubled ma y men.
 
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Why would God destroy the righteous in Israel along with the wicked? And if He would, wouldn't it behoove us to understand why?
God will do right u see. this coulda been fulfilled in ad70 too........ but whenever however God will do right.
 
Apr 23, 2017
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hey i got a question thats not related to the rapture in anyway.

is Jesus Christ still in His manform? is He still 100% God and man or is he only God now that He has ascended back to heaven?? who knows u see. anyone got any verses for that?