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Please tell me where in the world do the word's "Jesus Spray" come from. Have I lived a sheltered life or; are these word's that PeterJen's has just made up in his mind. If this is a common phrase please tell me; who on earth would even dare mention the Son of God in such terms, just sayin'
His view of the imputed righteousness of Christ which is a trick that will nor work....You know....the rich man in HELL told Abraham that the word of God would not work either.......such a degrading thing to say about JESUS and his imputed righteousness.....
 
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Magentas giff implies people actually believe Jesus spray does work, lol.

Funny that, I never knew people had taken the idea this far.
But then people have no rules or respect for obvious limits and consistency.
 
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actually ignore doesn't do any good after all if a person knows they are on ignore then they may just take advantage and spout out even more,having no technical person to correct them,so still no ignore from me.
True, but if a person is being a troublemaker, and everyone ignores them, they will have no audience. a person who has no audience has no reason to continue.
 
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I disagree, when someone is on ignore my life becomes more peaceful, ignore works for me.
I was on here over 4 years before I ever put one person on ignore.....he was the first.......and I dealt with more than a handful of those whose stance was similar....meaning, a stance that lacked any credible witness for the truth.
 
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WHAT PART OF CLEANSED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB do you not understand?


Hebrews 9:22 (NIV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

Revelation 7:13-14 (HCSB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Then one of the elders asked me, “Who are these people robed in white, and where did they come from?”
[SUP]14 [/SUP] I said to him, “Sir, you know.” Then he told me: These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Acts 11:9 (NKJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] But the voice answered me again from heaven, 'What God has cleansed you must not call common.'

2 Peter 1:8-11 (ESV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to confirm your calling and election, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.




Hebrews 1:2-3 (YLT)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] in these last days did speak to us in a Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages;
[SUP]3 [/SUP] who being the brightness of the glory, and the impress of His subsistence, bearing up also the all things by the saying of his might--through himself having made a cleansing of our sins, sat down at the right hand of the greatness in the highest,


What part of Christ's Cleansing Blood do you object to? ? ?
By his words and what he states.....none of it....!
 
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His view of the imputed righteousness of Christ which is a trick that will nor work....You know....the rich man in HELL told Abraham that the word of God would not work either.......such a degrading thing to say about JESUS and his imputed righteousness.....
dc - You stand before God with unrepented of sin, sin held to consciously, in rebellion against
Gods word and witness and claim Jesus's blood will wash you clean and save you?

Why and how? You are in rebellion against love and all He stands for. You know the truth
yet hold to rebellion, why would God forgive you? The cross was not enough for you to honour
Him and walk in His ways, you still believed holding on to sin was ok.

Is this not the theology you are holding on to, and the answer God will give you?
Enter in my good and faithful servant. Not sure you can find this anywhere in scripture.
I am willing to listen if you can find anywhere.
 
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I was on here over 4 years before I ever put one person on ignore.....he was the first.......and I dealt with more than a handful of those whose stance was similar....meaning, a stance that lacked any credible witness for the truth.

The problem is, like with PJ, Multiple people have been telling him the same things over and over, We put him on ignore. The new person comes in, and tells him the same things others have already told him, then they get sick, put him on ignore, then new people come in, tell him the same thing.....

It gets old..
 
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dc - You stand before God with unrepented of sin, sin held to consciously, in rebellion against
Gods word and witness and claim Jesus's blood will wash you clean and save you?

Why and how? You are in rebellion against love and all He stands for. You know the truth
yet hold to rebellion, why would God forgive you? The cross was not enough for you to honour
Him and walk in His ways, you still believed holding on to sin was ok.

Is this not the theology you are holding on to, and the answer God will give you?
Enter in my good and faithful servant. Not sure you can find this anywhere in scripture.
I am willing to listen if you can find anywhere.
You really don't know what your talking about......serious!
 

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His view of the imputed righteousness of Christ which is a trick that will nor work....You know....the rich man in HELL told Abraham that the word of God would not work either.......such a degrading thing to say about JESUS and his imputed righteousness.....
His lack of understanding is colossal. Remember his assertion that a person returning to faith amounts to universalism, when universalism would mean that even those who never acknowledge Christ are also saved? The unsaved were not being addressed until he included them, and then pretended others meant what he erroneously stated, which was conveniently overlooked by him, though he repeatedly accuses others of having no understanding. Once you see through his charade there is no going back. I pray he comes out of his delusion.
 
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The problem is, like with PJ, Multiple people have been telling him the same things over and over, We put him on ignore. The new person comes in, and tells him the same things others have already told him, then they get sick, put him on ignore, then new people come in, tell him the same thing.....

It gets old..
I heard that....you would think he would take a hint.
 
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I was on here over 4 years before I ever put one person on ignore.....he was the first.......and I dealt with more than a handful of those whose stance was similar....meaning, a stance that lacked any credible witness for the truth.
I am struck to the core, you have hurt me, I am shaken that one such as you should
put me on ignore. Thankfully it is a blessing not to respond to your repeated missquoting,
miss representing, slander, lies, distortions of the very things I write. Everything I write
comes from scripture and is inspired by God. I do make mistakes, occasionally, for which
I feel very bad, but these are few. I am so cautious, everything I do share has come from
much study and consideration, much more than I can consciously remember or know.

Even so I know I only share in part, and there is much more of His glorious truth to share
and grasp. Your main fear appears to be guilt about the way you life and your motivations.

For me, I only know my walk, and the blessing God is to me. It brings me great joy, more each
day to see it flowing in my heart and out to others. There are so many broken people in this
world that need healing and a touch of His love, but you seem more concerned about sin
and how often you fall into it. Have you not ever thought you may have a problem which you
are in denial about and need help?
 
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His lack of understanding is colossal. Remember his assertion that a person returning to faith amounts to universalism, when universalism would mean that even those who never acknowledge Christ are also saved? The unsaved were not being addressed until he included them, and then pretended others meant what he erroneously stated, which was conveniently overlooked by him, though he repeatedly accuses others of having no understanding. Once you see through his charade there is no going back. I pray he comes out of his delusion.
Deception at its finest. They're the hardest people to reach. I've seen more drug addicts and homosexuals accepting Jesus' grace than some Christians.
 

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Speaking as a person who had a wicked flea infestation a few years ago in my old apartment, I can only say this..


Fleas are NOT worth saving. Fleas are evil, sneaky, ugly little vermin and MUST die.. I am not a flea lover. I am a flea hater. DEATH TO ALL FLEAS!!!!!!!!!!!! Laughing.png


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No one can walk with Jesus unless they are saved first which is a one time eternal event based upon faith....your working for anti-Jesus dogma cannot save a flea.......
 
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His lack of understanding is colossal. Remember his assertion that a person returning to faith amounts to universalism, when universalism would mean that even those who never acknowledge Christ are also saved? The unsaved were not being addressed until he included them, and then pretended others meant what he erroneously stated, which was conveniently overlooked by him, though he repeatedly accuses others of having no understanding. Once you see through his charade there is no going back. I pray he comes out of his delusion.
I absolutely agree........all I know is the Spirit of God would not lead someone saved to say some of the thing he has said....especially the one about putting too much emphasis upon Jesus and not enough on ourselves........Satanic to the core.....
 
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You really don't know what your talking about......serious!
:) I wish this was true, because then I would have no responsibility to share.
I learnt an important lesson in business, if you see a problem share it, because it might change
the future, but if you keep silent, you will never know.

We are called to be light in a dark place. We are called to love and do good works.
We are called to forgive and not to judge, but to correct and bring Praise to His name.

So that is what I do. I pray and hope this is your desire also.

But I think something else dwells in your heart that stops this.
 
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Deception at its finest. They're the hardest people to reach. I've seen more drug addicts and homosexuals accepting Jesus' grace than some Christians.
SOME so-called Christians........they know they need JESUS....the self righteous hypocrites who push a working for sinless perfectionist charade are in no need of JESUS......
 
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Speaking as a person who had a wicked flea infestation a few years ago in my old apartment, I can only say this..


Fleas are NOT worth saving. Fleas are evil, sneaky, ugly little vermin and MUST die.. I am not a flea lover. I am a flea hater. DEATH TO ALL FLEAS!!!!!!!!!!!! View attachment 174615



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Touche, and I agree HAHAHHAHAHH My mom had about 10 cats and she got overrun with them......it took like 10 bombs and downsizing 8 cats to get rid of them and over a month of war.......
 

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​What I don't understand about what he says about putting too much on Jesus and not enough on ourselves is... isn't that what we are supposed to do? Bring all our problems to Jesus? If we put it all on ourselves and leave Jesus out of the equation entirely, then we will fail miserably. BUT if we take whatever problem or issue to Jesus, then HE helps us handle it. :)
 

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Deception at its finest. They're the hardest people to reach. I've seen more drug addicts and homosexuals accepting Jesus' grace than some Christians.
It is more than that, for the deliberate way he constantly tells others they are unsaved while he continually speaks with a forked tongue is disgusting. For instance, pretending that while we rest in Christ, we are doing nothing, and giving ourselves license to sin, but when he rests in Christ, praise the Lord and hallelujah, amen, and wow isn't it too bad we are so lost that we are incapable of walking after Christ like he does, for when he sins, he is covered? :p
 

blue_ladybug

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UGH.. *shudders*

Well, the strange part is, the majority of the fleas were inside my mattress and box spring.. They were 2 of the Big Lots specials..lol.. each one was one-sided, so the fleas had easy access. At first I thought they were only in the carpet, then I finally figured out where they were hiding so I threw out the mattress and box spring, got new ones and put protective covers over them. Funny part is, every time I checked Tequila, I only would see maybe only 2 or 3 on her, and the rest were in the carpet..lol.. I bombed the house, maybe 4 times, and had the exterminator come out twice and spray.. I FINALLY got rid of them.. thank God..


Touche, and I agree HAHAHHAHAHH My mom had about 10 cats and she got overrun with them......it took like 10 bombs and downsizing 8 cats to get rid of them and over a month of war.......