Cessationism and Mental Illness
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Elizabeth, I am so sorry to hear of this terrible shooting. I do not read the news on Sunday, and I had not yet read it today, this is the first I have heard of this! I will be praying for your family, the church and community!
I think the thread was just a satirical response to a thread yesterday, not directed to you personally. Personally, I detest when people throw around accusations of mental illness to describe other members of the body of Christ, on either side of the charismatic divide. I work with the mentally. Some are Christians, and sadly some are atheists because of what they have gone through with their mental illness.
There are patterns you learn to see where psychosis is concerned. We had a member in my group stop her meds this summer, and she went completely delusional. We tried to talk her down, but she lacked insight into her condition. About a month later, late August, we got word she had crashed and burned. She had killed herself! And she was not a Christian!
So mental illness is very serious and should never be joked about! I hope the OP will repent of the mean spiritedness of this thread, and ask for it to be closed. I had the feeling that Sparkman was really looking to see if people hearing the voice of God were mentally ill. I hope that I as a non-charismatic was able to reassure him, not just from my experiences, but from the Bible that as Christians, we do need to walk with God, and that includes knowing and hearing his voice!
As for these gift lists, why not use Romans 12:3-5, instead? Then tongues does not need to be a dividing point!
"For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.4 For as in one body we have many members, and the members do not all have the same function,5 so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.6 Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith;7 if service, in our serving; the one who teaches, in his teaching;8 the one who exhorts, in his exhortation; the one who contributes, in generosity; the one who leads, with zeal; the one who does acts of mercy, with cheerfulness." Romans 5:3-5
J
Sooooo Elisabeth 619 posts about seeking prayer requests for my home state and current residence,and expresses her annoyance for this thread,and somehow she is in your words"bashing" someone?
No she is not she was merely stating her feelings on this subject which is not anything to go off the wall about with "your bashing" her with no justifiable cause,besides it's wrong to do so anyways.
No she is not she was merely stating her feelings on this subject which is not anything to go off the wall about with "your bashing" her with no justifiable cause,besides it's wrong to do so anyways.
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I would have listened a whole lot better if a mass judgment had not been her opening statement
no need for that
anger, fear and pain will sometimes sound like that though I guess
she is hurting, which I get, but what she is saying is not true of most of the people here
in point of fact, you have no idea if I did pray, because I did see her post
I will speak up when someone starts swinging at everyone for no reason, which is basically what happened
the op did not try to make an offensive thread.
frankly, I find it more offensive that someone comes on and gives everyone what for and then people takes sides and carry torches and start accusing
but like I said, just another day on CC
the ongoing "I am a better Christian than you are never stops"
no need for that
anger, fear and pain will sometimes sound like that though I guess
she is hurting, which I get, but what she is saying is not true of most of the people here
in point of fact, you have no idea if I did pray, because I did see her post
I will speak up when someone starts swinging at everyone for no reason, which is basically what happened
the op did not try to make an offensive thread.
frankly, I find it more offensive that someone comes on and gives everyone what for and then people takes sides and carry torches and start accusing
but like I said, just another day on CC
the ongoing "I am a better Christian than you are never stops"
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here is the original post...in the news forum
http://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/158451-mass-shooting-tennessee-church-please-pray.html
like I said, no need to get angry over something totally unrelated
if anyone should take a breath and not have an emotional moment, it seems we are not a Christian
http://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/158451-mass-shooting-tennessee-church-please-pray.html
like I said, no need to get angry over something totally unrelated
if anyone should take a breath and not have an emotional moment, it seems we are not a Christian
J
once again where is this so called swinging,she spoke her view on this subject,and yeah she wasn't glad of how the subject was presented referring to it as not being Christian by way of sarcasm,but big deal,and she didn't indicate specifically anyone in her post so she was just speaking her thoughts,no need to take it personal.
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that's not what I said
you do yourself no favor by misinterpreting the fact that the behavior being exhibited is what causes the friction in the first place
the original thread mocked anyone who said they had heard from God in a literal sense...Angela had no trouble joining in and agreeing if people stated they heard from God...that is in an audible voice...then they most likely had mental issues
the idea behind this thread, is to illustrate how it sounds when the idea is presented from another angle
people do not seem to want to listen. IMO, most people react and do not listen and are happy to have a 'cause' even if they do not know what it is really about
I did see the original post...I don't always post a prayer, but many times I do pray. I pray when I see horrendous things going on in the world and part of that prayer is 'God have mercy'
maybe try to be someone who thinks for themself. your poster judged everyone here because of her emotional state
I am trying, I don't know why, to explain that there was no reason to tell everyone they are not behaving like she thinks they should
the entire thing is ridiculous and what is even more ridiculous, is the fact that another just as ridiculous arguement will come along and give opportunity for people to post against those they already do not care for and everyone will consider their work as a good Christian well done
I absolutely do care about praying for others, sad I am sitting here explaining it, but I do not care for the responses being made as though no one does in fact care
I am also aware of the fact that practically no one will even give pause to understand what I am saying
some of the posters in this thread, were quite happy to label all posters in another thread that said they had heard from God audibly (and by the way I have not, so that is not my gripe) as not quite right
the hypocrisy is over the top
J
Welcome to the monkey house. 
I thought you were a tourist tourist don't tell me you have settled in to a monkey house?
how about you take the monkey house with an unlimited supply of bananas and I'll stay on Christian Chat,and look after who is left after you leading the monkeys away,deal?
It's obvious your motive is to argue and show absolute no respect for anyone who you don't see eye to eye with. Since you asked what I have personally done involving other tragedies the occurred recently I will tell you. Aside from praying I spent quite a bit of money I do not have to buy supplies for the hurricane victims. Me and a local friend opened up our homes as drop off locations for others to make donations such as toys, cleaning supplies, food, Etc. Not only have I done what I could have for victims of recent events I donate money EVERY week to local charities. I volunteer for veterans, help give away school supplies to school children who can't afford it and my most ongoing project is the local republican and Democratic Party in my county coming together as a bipartisan group and helping veterans together. I don't like bragging about what I do. As a matter of fact I don't like telling it. I certainly don't do it for attention but you asked.
I'm sorry it bothers you that a sister in Christ felt discouraged by harsh comments made when I just wanted a little uplifting and surround myself around the best people I can. I'm sorry you feel the need to berate me in the way you have. ActuLly, I'm not sorry. You're only showing a reflection of your own character. Not only do I ask for prayer for the victims of the shooting I really hope people here pray for you as well.
One more thing, the church that was shot was a cessationist church. I as well am cessationist. So yeah, this thread was a little bothersome.
I'm sorry it bothers you that a sister in Christ felt discouraged by harsh comments made when I just wanted a little uplifting and surround myself around the best people I can. I'm sorry you feel the need to berate me in the way you have. ActuLly, I'm not sorry. You're only showing a reflection of your own character. Not only do I ask for prayer for the victims of the shooting I really hope people here pray for you as well.
One more thing, the church that was shot was a cessationist church. I as well am cessationist. So yeah, this thread was a little bothersome.
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well then, let me introduce to the thread that started it all and we are on the same page with regards to calling people mentally ill or unstable because they have had a different expereince
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/158277-has-god-ever-spoken-you-audibly.html
I don't know if you posted in that or not, but the remarks of some people in this thread, who are all about how awful this thread is, had no problem participating in the above thread because they agreed with it
that thread spawned this thread...for better or worse apparently
and now, we have this offering in the BDF which really does not belong in the BDF but prob in miscellaneous
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/158460-mental-disorders-do-you-have.html
welcome to the jungle...