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notmyown

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GOD’s Amazing Grace is to be received with forever Love and Gratitude... we are to look to the Lord our Saviour...obeying the Author and Finisher of our Faith... always counting ourselves unworthy servants...
and yet, dearly loved children. as a mum, you know what it is to love your children. though we are sinful, we love them.

isn't it amazing? God has loved us with an everlasting love! :)
 

blue_ladybug

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​Thank God that He doesn't take away our salvation when we screw up, fall off His path, or wander away.. :eek:
 
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PHart

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​Thank God that He doesn't take away our salvation when we screw up, fall off His path, or wander away.. :eek:
Right, he takes it away when you no longer rely and trust on the blood of Christ for the forgiveness of your sin. The return to the world is just the manifestation of that return to unbelief.

"we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all."

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For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified."

"26For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES. 28Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?" (Hebrews 10:10,14,26-29 NASB)

Sanctified people being punished more severely than death. Hmm....
 
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notmyown

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AMEN...if he did there would be about 15 people in heaven.....or less.......

After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands

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After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands :)
Yep, that is Jesus' propitiation for the sins of "the whole world." :D
 
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After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands

:)
HAHAHHA yes indeed ;)
 
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Phart's Song

Amazing Grace I do Not NEED
I keep MYSELF SAVED
and Set MYSELF FREE
Because JESUS is not SUFFICIENT for MEEEEEEEE
 
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naming it might be too controversial. ;)
We can call it--->"The Day Hell Froze Over" HAHAH good thing the word hell is in the bible hey......

ALL jokes aside...I have no problem standing corrected if I am wrong and can be proven wrong...in context
 
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PHart

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Phart's Song

Amazing Grace I do Not NEED
I keep MYSELF SAVED
and Set MYSELF FREE
Because JESUS is not SUFFICIENT for MEEEEEEEE
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith" (Ephesians 2:8 NIV)

5who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time." (1 Peter 1:5 NIV)

It is through faith that we access the grace by which we are saved and will be saved. No faith = no salvation. Keep believing to the very end, folks.

"2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain." (1 Corinthians 15:2 NIV)

12See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. 13But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness. 14We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end." (Hebrews 3:12-14 NIV)
 
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PHart

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Oh, by the way......did someone finally post the scripture that says trusting in God is the self righteous work of trying to justify/save oneself?

No? Didn't think so.

Meanwhile, let's meditate on the scripture that contrasts trusting with working to be justified:

5However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness." (Romans 4:5 NIV)