Did Jesus abolish the law? Should we keep the commandments?

[eternally-gratefull]

7 What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet.
12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.
13 Did that which is righteous, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through that which was righteous, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful.
14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.


1 John 3:4, "...for sin is the transgression of the Law."

I knew that before I was saved, THATS what brought me to jesus

That has not changed, I still know win is sin, and I know I still sin.

But instead of focusing on my sin, and how sinful I am, I choose to act like christ, and instead focus on loving and serving others, and seek after the things of the spirit.

Go ahead. Follow the law. The law was made for sinners, You must have not yet been tutored by the law. So maybe you still need it.

When are you going to stop focusing on rules and regulations and start focusing on serving others my friend?

You focus so much on self and the flesh while trying to be obedient, when do you have time for God and others?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

My prayer is we may all find him through His Word. Only in the Word can we know the truth because that is who He is. We ignore the Word we ignore the one who LOVES all and is calling all to come and it is the word that will judge us all in the last days. I hope it will not be too late for any that have ears to hear. Many are called but few are chosen

So when are you going to hear what God says, and not what you want to hear?

 

[Hizikyah]

It refers to people who are born again by faith as saints, and states they are the ones who obey the commands.

Sabitarians, or people who claim salvation is made by obedience to Gods law, are not saints. They are wannabes.

So anyone who guards the 7th day Sabbath claims justification by works?

you seem to be making connections that are not there.

 

[Hizikyah]

I knew that before I was saved, THATS what brought me to jesus

That has not changed, I still know win is sin, and I know I still sin.

But instead of focusing on my sin, and how sinful I am, I choose to act like christ, and instead focus on loving and serving others, and seek after the things of the spirit.

Go ahead. Follow the law. The law was made for sinners, You must have not yet been tutored by the law. So maybe you still need it.

When are you going to stop focusing on rules and regulations and start focusing on serving others my friend?

You focus so much on self and the flesh while trying to be obedient, when do you have time for God and others?

Yopu frame things in you mindset, the word says:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."[/FONT]

 

[loveme1]

My prayer is we may all find him through His Word. Only in the Word can we know the truth because that is who He is. We ignore the Word we ignore the one who LOVES all and is calling all to come and it is the word that will judge us all in the last days. I hope it will not be too late for any that have ears to hear. Many are called but few are chosen

Relay the Word of GOD with Love.. for the Glory of GOD and the Salvation of man..

GOD’s Law is still to be Kept and taught by His Children through Faith in the Lord’s Testament.

 

[LoveGodForever]

So when are you going to hear what God says, and not what you want to hear?

We should not point people to the teachings of men over the Word of God. For me, he must increase and I must decrease. I only point all to the Word of God because it is there we find the one who loves us that we may love him. I know him and am known by him. All that he shows me I see and must show to all because I am blind.

He tells me it is those that say they see that do not see. They point all to themselves and not to him who loves all. These are they that have once known him or do not know him. Who am I that he should choose me out of the world? I am no one but he is all.

If I did not believe him I would not know him. What can I do without him? He is love and now I love. I follow him now because I love him who first loved me. I do not judge you but His Word will judge us because they are there for all to see.

All are welcome to see and hear God's Word, however many are called but few are chosen. Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils but His Word is promises to deliver us and it is here we must find safety. We ought to obey God rather than man. God is love and he that dwells in love dwells in God. It is hard to kick against the pricks.

Goodnight all late my time. May God bless you all as you seek Him through his Word. May His name be praised forever and ever AMEN!

 

[loveme1]

So anyone who guards the 7th day Sabbath claims justification by works?

you seem to be making connections that are not there.

Hizikyah find out what wine the bottle is filled with old or New.. then you will know know if the bottle is in unbelief or Belief..

Justified by Faith is the bottle with New wine..

 

[valiant]

We should not point people to the teachings of men over the Word of God. For me, he must increase and I must decrease. I only point all to the Word of God because it is there we find the one who loves us that we may love him. I know him and am known by him. All that he shows me I see and must show to all because I am blind.

He tells me it is those that say they see that do not see. They point all to themselves and not to him who loves all. These are they that have once known him or do not know him. Who am I that he should choose me out of the world? I am no one but he is all.

If I did not believe him I would not know him. What can I do without him? He is love and now I love. I follow him now because I love him who first loved me. I do not judge you but His Word will judge us because they are there for all to see.

All are welcome to see and hear God's Word, however many are called but few are chosen. Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils but His Word is promises to deliver us and it is here we must find safety. We ought to obey God rather than man. God is love and he that dwells in love dwells in God. It is hard to kick against the pricks.

Goodnight all late my time. May God bless you all as you seek Him through his Word. May His name be praised forever and ever AMEN!

You are trapped inside your tin can, which is symbolic of being trapped by the Law. We are free to serve Christ and obey HIM and His word rightly divided,. You follow your way, we will follow ours,

 

[beta]

which law and how long?
what about when Jesus said it is finished on the cross? how about that.

The 10 Com are a separate Law spiritual and eternal given by GOD personally and to which He 'added no more Deut 5v22...the rest 'contained in ordinances/works through Moses were dealt with by Yahshua/Jesus on the cross Eph 2v15; Col 2v14;

When Yashua said 'it is finished' He was more likely to have referred to His human mission on earth than to abolish law in general....He most obviously did not for how could He then tell the wicked and lawless to depart from Him into everlasting fire

 

[loveme1]

You are trapped inside your tin can, which is symbolic of being trapped by the Law. We are free to serve Christ and obey HIM. You follow your war, we will follow ours,

That is precisely what LGF is proposing to serve and Obey Christ... that is Loving Christ..

 

[valiant]

The 10 Com are a separate Law spiritual and eternal given by GOD personally and to which He 'added no more Deut 5v22...the rest 'contained in ordinances/works through Moses were dealt with by Yahshua/Jesus on the cross Eph 2v15; Col 2v14;

When Yashua said 'it is finished' He was more likely to have referred to His human mission on earth than to abolish law in general....He most obviously did not for how could He then tell the wicked and lawless to depart from Him into everlasting fire

The ten words are part of God's covenant with ISRAEL when He delivered them from bondage.

We are free to follow a higher law given by Christ.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

When are you going to stop focusing on rules and regulations and start focusing on serving others my friend?

You focus so much on self and the flesh while trying to be obedient, when do you have time for God and others?

Friend, do you know him personally and if not how can you accuse him of this? We can't judge our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.

Psa_119:44 So shall I keep thy law continually for ever and ever.

David said he will keep the law for ever and ever, maybe we are missing something somewhere.

God bless friends

 

[Studyman]

i believe its the devil working to get folks who recently got saved mixed up in all kinds of false doctrines.

when u get saved he gets mad that he cant take u to hell no more. so he will try to ruin ur life.

Yes, it is true the devil infiltrates Christianity. Jesus warned as much.

Yes, man has been creating images of their own gods and their own traditions since the beginning. Some created images of God after the likeness of a Golden calf and created "Feasts unto the Lord" to worship it with

Others in modern times create images of God in the likeness of some long haired men's hair shampoo model, and they create huge religious High Days in worship of this same god.

But we have all been warned of such things yes? So intimately Paul had it right in his speech regarding the WEAK in faith.

Rom. 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

The God of Abraham is all powerful and wise, or he is not to be trusted. By our works we show which one of these choices we have made.

He said don't create images of Him. I'm like, OK God. He says don't work on Saturday. I'm like, OK God, you are the Boss, you bought me with a price, I can no longer create my own path.

The preaching that the devil is trying to trick people into submitting to God is amazing. And what is more amazing is how "MANY" actually believe that this is true.

Matt. 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Deceive me into doing what? Following the God of Abraham and His Son? or Following the doctrines and traditions of men?

 

[beta]

The ten words are part of God's covenant with ISRAEL when He delivered them from bondage.

We are free to follow a higher law given by Christ.

Who else does God make covenants with ? if you are not of Israel 'physically OR spiritually no covenant applies to you'
Do you think CHrist's law is not based on the Farher's Word ? Are the two not ONE ?

 

[Studyman]

You are trapped inside your tin can, which is symbolic of being trapped by the Law. We are free to serve Christ and obey HIM and His word rightly divided,. You follow your way, we will follow ours,

Rom. 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law,(Not dead in our sins) but under grace?(clean slate) God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

We are all servants to something.

I like the analogy of a bird in a cage. I am the bird, God's instructions are the cage. As long as I am in this cage I am safe. I have food, water, and I can see my surroundings. But because I am a carnal animal, I sometimes forget that I am protected by this cage. I look out the window and see all these other birds flying free as the wind and my flesh longs to be free, with all of them, from the cage.

So let's say I dwelled on the glimpses of the free birds outside my cage and forget about the safety and comfort I really have. Then one day the cage door is left open and I can now choose to stay in safety, or fly away to my version of freedom.

If I have forgotten about the wisdom of the cages creator, and forgotten about the food that is always there, and the warmth and water that is always there I will fly out of the cage the first chance I have.

I will hit the skies declaring "I'm free from God's Gage", free at last from the burden of that cage. And as I am flying and souring like all the other birds I see, without a care in the world, a Hawk I didn't see swoops down and kills me and eats me for dinner.

God's Love is His Law. Those who are His know this and they stay in His Love even when the door is open.

He who has an ear, let him hear.

 

[JaumeJ]

If you knew Jesus and what He teaches and what is written you would know Hismission in the flesh and His suffering was finished... Why do you contort the words of the Word? What do you gain from this?

which law and how long?
what about when Jesus said it is finished on the cross? how about that.

 

[followjesus]

If you presently do not hear Jesus Christ's teaching, I cannot force you to.

Jesus Christ did not abolish the law. He fulfilled it.....big difference.

and even more than that, he makes us able to uphold the righteousness of it. the truth of the Law is met in those who follow Jesus and His Gospel. thats kind of the whole point, Jesus came to call sinners ( those who transgess Gods Law) to repentance ( those who stop transgressing Gods Law and return to His ways) and to a death of the first creation and a new birth of a new creation created in truw righteousness and in Gods Image.

 

[Studyman]

The ten words are part of God's covenant with ISRAEL when He delivered them from bondage.

We are free to follow a higher law given by Christ.

God's covenant with us is the same covenant He gave to Abraham.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

When Abrahams children cried out because of affliction of Egypt. (symbolic of sin) He remembered His covenant with Abraham.

Ex. 2:23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage.
24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.

Paul said the Levitical Priesthood sacrificial "Works of the Law" were "ADDED" to this covenant God had with Abraham because of transgressions of it. (See Gal. 3:19)

This "Law of works" (Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.) did not make Abraham righteous because they were not instituted until 430 years after God made His Covenant with Abraham. This "temporary "Law of works" as Paul calls it, was to be a shadow of Christ's sacrifice "until the Seed should come". (Gal. 3:19)

Now that He has Come, we are back to the "Law of Faith" Abraham was blessed for following. That is why Paul said we must have "The Faith of Abraham".

Most will reject this truth as prophesied.

 

[Grandpa]

The Lord Jesus abolished your carnal work and carnal understanding of the law (10 commandments)

The Lord Jesus magnified the law so that we would know that our work at it fell short.


Once we realize that our BEST work falls short of obedience we must seek someone more powerful than ourselves to "help" us.

That would be the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.


If we turn from Him back to our own carnal understanding and carnal work at the law there is no hope for any obedience.

Only through faith in Christ do we have hope of Righteousness. Right standing before God.

 

[JaumeJ]

Why do you teach against imitating Jesus Christ in obeying the Father?

This is not of the Holy Spirit.

Why do you teach against obeying the commandments of God.

Paul teaches the law is established by faith. By faith I know His commandments are good. Why do you persist in attempting to discourage the faithful, those who have the law established by their faith on their herts?

I did not even know the law was good until I realized just how evil mankind is without God, and after changing my direction from this age to my heavenly Father, it became obvious to me His commandments ae good.

Why do you persist?

The Lord Jesus abolished your carnal work and carnal understanding of the law (10 commandments)

The Lord Jesus magnified the law so that we would know that our work at it fell short.


Once we realize that our BEST work falls short of obedience we must seek someone more powerful than ourselves to "help" us.

That would be the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.


If we turn from Him back to our own carnal understanding and carnal work at the law there is no hope for any obedience.

Only through faith in Christ do we have hope of Righteousness. Right standing before God.