What was the "different gospel" in Galatians 1:6?l

[Hizikyah]

I've read the whole book several times and the central message is: Christians are not under the Law.

This passage has notinhing to do with not being subject to "do not murder" or "don not steal"

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to Me; Master! Master! will enter into the Kingdom of YHWH, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Master! Master! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practiceiniquity.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]practice” is word #G2038 Strong's Concordance - ergazomai: I work, trade, do, Original Word: ἐργάζομαι, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: ergazomai, Phonetic Spelling: (er-gad'-zom-ahee), Short Definition: I work, trade, do, Definition: I work, trade, perform, do, practice, commit, acquire by labor.[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]iniquity” is word #G458 Strong's Concordance - anomia, lawlessness, Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin[/FONT]


Those in Messiah are not under the curse;

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The “curse of the Law” is receiving death for sin worthy of death. Yahshua/Jesus took that curse upon Himself for all those in Him.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:17, "All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not unto death."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 21:22-23, “And when a man has committed a sin worthy of death, then he shall be put to death and you shall hang him on a tree. Let his body not remain overnight on the tree, for you shall certainly bury him the same day – for he who is hanged is accursed of Yah – so that you do not defile the land which [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength is giving you as an inheritance.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Galatians 3:10-14, “10, "For as many as are of works of Torah are under the curse, for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all that has been written in the Book of the Torah, to do them.” (Deut 27:26) 11, "And that no one is declared right by Torah before YHWH is clear, for “The righteous shall live by belief. (Hab 2:4)” 12, "And the Torah is not of belief, but “The man who does them shall live by them, (Leviticus 18:5)” 13, "Messiah redeemed us from the curse of the Torah, having become a curse for us – for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs upon a tree.” – (Deut 21:23) 14, "in order that the blessing of Aḇraham might come upon the nations in Messiah [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to receive the promise of the Spirit through belief."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Galatians 3:13,(KJV) "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law (death), being made a curse for us, for it is written, Cursed is everyone who hangeth on a tree."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 2:24, "who Himself bore our sins in His body on the timber, so that we, having died to sins, might live unto righteousness, by whose stripes you were healed.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 53:4-5, “Truly, He has borne our sicknesses and carried our pains. Yet we reckoned Him smitten·, stricken by YHWH, and afflicted. But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our crookedness. The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 4:1-2, "Therefore, since Messiah suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, so that he no longer lives the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but according to the desire of YHWH."[/FONT]

 

[Grandpa]

Peter is talking about twisting what Paul said into an excuse for Lawlessness:

2 Peter/Kepha 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."

Also there is a difference between being subject to the Creator's Commands and seeking to be justified by one keeping of said Commands. Big difference:

Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy, so I (Paul) worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."


Romans 7:25, "Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin."


Acts 21:24, "Take them, and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that those things they were informed about you (forsaking the Law), were lies, and that you (Paul), yourself, walk orderly, and keep the Law."


1 Corinthians 7:19, "For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of Yah?"

Here we can see Paul says to establish that Law in conforming with faith:




Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."


Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"


Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"


1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."


Romans 7:7, Shall we therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet."


Romans 7:12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."


Ephesians 6:2-3, "Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."

Here we can see Paul says to establish that Law in conforming with faith:




Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."



Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"



Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the Commands of יהוה and possessing the Witness of יהושעMessiah."

If Peter was worried that people weren't working at the law and that was what the error of the wicked is then he would have said grow in the knowledge and work of the law.

But that isn't Peters solution. Peters solution is to grow in Grace and the Knowledge of the Lord.

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Galatians 2:19-21
19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

(led away with the error of the wicked... Need to Grow in Grace and in the Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ)

 

[Hizikyah]

If Peter was worried that people weren't working at the law and that was what the error of the wicked is then he would have said grow in the knowledge and work of the law.

But that isn't Peters solution. Peters solution is to grow in Grace and the Knowledge of the Lord.

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Galatians 2:19-21
19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

(led away with the error of the wicked... Need to Grow in Grace and in the Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ)

We need to take the entire word into consideration:

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

That is but one verse, lets look at more of that passage, you may understand why Peter warned of people twisting Paul's words into Lawlessness:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans, “6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin* that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*What is sin, that we may not continue in it?[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 6:15-23, “What then? Shall we sin because we are not under Torah but under unmerited mercy? Let it not be! Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves servants for obedience, you are servants of the one whom you obey, whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness? But thanks to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]that you were servants of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of teaching to which you were entrusted. And having been set free from sin, you became servants of righteousness. I speak as a man, because of the weakness of your flesh. For even as you did present your members as servants of uncleanness, and of lawlessness resulting in lawlessness, so now present your members as servants of righteousness resulting in set-apartness. For when you were servants of sin, you were free from righteousness. What fruit, therefore, were you having then, over which you are now ashamed? For the end thereof is death. But now, having been set free from sin, and having become servants of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], you have your fruit resulting in set-apartness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the favorable gift of Elohim is everlasting life in Messiah [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]our Master.”[/FONT]

Galatians 2:19-21
19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:25, “Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"[/FONT]

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Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Again there is a difference betweeen being subject to and seeking to be justified by the Law, if simply being subject to was fallen from grace then Paul must have been fallen from grace:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy, so I (Paul) worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:25, "Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 21:24, "Take them, and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that those things they were informed about you (forsaking the Law), were lies, and that you (Paul), yourself, walk orderly, and keep the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 7:19, "For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of Yah?"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:7, Shall we therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 6:2-3, "Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."

and none can say the Law is for the Jews and Gentiles are free to rod, steal and murder. There is only one way for Jew and Greek alike.
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:6, "Yahshua proclaimed to him: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father, except through Me."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 – poimén)."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the Commands of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and possessing the Witness of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah."[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]
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(led away with the error of the wicked... Need to Grow in Grace and in the Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ)

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Peter/Kepha 3:15-17, "and reckon the patience of our Master as deliverance, as also our beloved brother Paul/Sha’ul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, as also in all his letters, speaking in them concerning these matters, in which some are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also the other Scriptures. You, then, beloved ones, being forewarned, watch, lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the delusion of the lawless, but grow in the favor and knowledge of our Master and Savior [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah. To Him be the esteem both now and to a day that abides. Amĕn.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John/Yahanan 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”[/FONT]

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[Marcelo]

Originally Posted by Marcelo

I've read the whole book several times and the central message is: Christians are not under the Law.

This passage has nothing to do with not being subject to "do not murder" or "do not steal"

I don't get you! Loveme1 told me to continue reading (Galatians 1) and I did it til the end.

 

[Studyman]

I don't get you! Loveme1 told me to continue reading (Galatians 1) and I did it til the end.

In Gal. 3 Paul speaks of a law that was "ADDED" 430 years after Abraham, "Till the Seed should Come". He said the law was "ADDED" because of "Transgressions".

This would mean two things, #1. There was already a Law in place that another Law was "ADDED" too. #2. And the Added Law, which Abraham did not have, was only to be in place until Jesus came back.

The Levitical Priesthood "work's of the Law" for remission of sins we know Abraham didn't have because Levi wasn't born yet.

Could this be the "law of Works" Paul is speaking about that the Jews were still pushing? Could this be the Law that was "ADDED" to God's Commandments?

I think scriptures support this view.

Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.



28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Gal. 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

18 For if the inheritance be of the law,(ceremonial "works" of the Levitical Priesthood) it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Abraham had laws, just not the Levitical Priesthood "Law of Works"





19 Wherefore then serveth the law?(Law of Works) It was added because of transgressions,(to an existing law) till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

So then it appears that a more accurate statement would be "Christians are not under the Levitical Priesthood sacrificial ceremonial "Works of the Law" for remission of sins.

Something to consider.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Originally Posted by LoveGodForever

A different Gospel is one that tries to do away with God's WORD or only uses some of God's WORD to make it of none effect.

The different Gospel is one that tries to separate God's LAW from the LOVE of God.

Why is God's Law important to helping someone to have faith in Christ alone?

Because it is only through the Law of God (10 commandments) that any of us have a knowledge of what sin is (1John 3:4; Rom 3:20; 24). If we do away with God's Law we have no knowledge of sin. If we have no knowledge of sin we have no need of a savior. If we have no need of a savior we have no salvation. If we have no salvation we are lost. "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law." (Rom 2:12).

God's Law shows us that we are sinners in need of a savior. God's Law was given to us that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God (Rom 3:19). It shows us that we are sinners and cannot save ourselves from this disease that we have within us so that we can by Faith lay hold of the promises of God's Words so that Jesus can save us from our sins. Jesus did not come to save the righteous (those that think they do not need saving) but sinners (those that know their need of saving) (Matt 9:12-13; Mark 2:17; Luke 5:32) God's Law has always been part of the true Gospel of Christ. The counterfeit Gospel does not have it. God's forever Law (the 10 commandments) is the foundation of both the Old and the New Covenant and the very foundation and basis of the true Gospel of Christ. It will be the basis of the judgement where we will all be accountable to God.

The Law of God is the only way of showing us who we truly are, sinners in need of a Saviour and in this condition we can see for the first time Him who loved us and washed us in His own blood and by faith only lay hold of the promises of God’s Word. (2Pet 1:4) It is here as we believe God that he changes us from living a life of breaking God's Law to a life of walking with him. It is through the operation of God through Love because he first loved us that we follow Jesus not for salvation but because of love. Love is the fulfilling of God's Law in us who walk not after the flesh (carnal sinful mind) but after the spirit and why Jesus says to his followers, "If you love me keep the commandments" (John 14:15).

People cannot see that this is the operation of God in the believer and assume God's people believe they are saved by their works, when in fact Jesus is saving us from our sins to walk in newness of life in fulfillment of His new Covenant promise (Heb 8:10-12)...... Gods Sheep hear His Voice salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's Law (1John 3:4) whosoever is living in sin has neither seen him nor known him (1John 3:6) ............

Galatians 2
16 know that a man is not justified by works of the Law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law, because by works of the Law no one will be justified.

Hello IanWhoIam, nice to meet you.

Sorry for the slow reply. I hope you do not mind me saying this to you but where does the post you are quoting from above disagree with the scripture you posted and what does the scripture you posted in your view have to do with the post you are replying to?

Who is saying that anyone is justified by the works of the Law?

It seems indeed you did not read the post you responded to or did not understand what was written.

The main point of the post you responded to is that through God's LAW is the knowledge of sin (Romans 3:20). If you have NO LAW you do NOT have the knowledge of Good and Evil. You cannot know what SIN or RIGHTEOUSNESS are. If you have no knowledge of what SIN is then there is NO way you can KNOW the Savior.

Jesus says I have not come to call the RIGHTEOUS (those that have no need and think they are ok) I have come to call sinner. They that be whole do not need a physician but those that are sick. GO learn what that means...

We are ONLY saved by GRACE through FAITH and NOT of OURSELVES it is a GIFT OF GOD and not of WORKS Lest any man should boast (Ephesians 2:8)

It's never been about following the law its always been about following Christ by faith through love alone. Faith that works by love is what fulfills God's Law in those that walk in His Spirit (Romans 13:8-10).

Obedience is only the fruit of faith and a sign that someone is genuinely following God's Word (Matthew 7:17-27). If you seek obedience without faith you will never attain it because this is the gift of God written on the heart (Ephesians 2:8; Galatians 2:16; Hebrews 8:10-12).

But if you believe God's Word, your faith will be counted for righteousness in God's eyes (Romans 1:17; Philippians 3:9). If your faith does not have the fruit of obedience (God's work in you) than you are still in your sins and have not seen him or known him and your faith is dead (Philippians 2:13; Hebrews 10:26-27; 1 John 2:2-4; 1 John 3:3-9).

What we are talking about is SIN and how SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's Kingdom. If you profess to have saving FAITH but your faith does NOT have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE to God's Word then your faith is DEAD and you are still in your SINS and do not KNOW him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE all as he first LOVED us. LOVE is the fulfilling of the LAW in those who walk by FAITH in God's Spirit. (James 2:18; 20; 26; Romans 13:8-10; 1 John 3:3-10; James 2:8-12; Matthew 7:13-20)

There are only two classes of people spoken about in God's Word. These are those that follow God by Faith through LOVE and those that do not. Those that do NOT BELIEVE have rejected His Word. Those that have NOT Heard the WORD are ignorant and God winks at. Those that have heard the Word however and have rejected God's Word are UNBELIEVERS and unless they repent and confess their SINS they WILL NOT Enter into God's Kingdom (Hebrews 10:26-27)

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

To balance your interpretation of the scripture you quoted above it is written;

Romans 3
31, Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we ESTABLISH THE LAW.

This is because SIN will keep ALL who are practicing is OUT of the Kingdom of HEAVEN.

May God bless you as you seek Him through His Word.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

In Gal. 3 Paul speaks of a law that was "ADDED" 430 years after Abraham, "Till the Seed should Come". He said the law was "ADDED" because of "Transgressions".

This would mean two things, #1. There was already a Law in place that another Law was "ADDED" too. #2. And the Added Law, which Abraham did not have, was only to be in place until Jesus came back.

The law spoken of in Gal 3:17-21 was not added to another "law":

Galatians 3:

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.



vs 17 – God gave the promise to Abraham.

vs 19 – The law was added because of transgressions till the Seed should come to Whom the promise was made.

vs 17 – the law which was 430 years after the promise does not and cannot disannul the promise.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

In Gal. 3 Paul speaks of a law that was "ADDED" 430 years after Abraham, "Till the Seed should Come". He said the law was "ADDED" because of "Transgressions".

This would mean two things, #1. There was already a Law in place that another Law was "ADDED" too. #2. And the Added Law, which Abraham did not have, was only to be in place until Jesus came back.

The Levitical Priesthood "work's of the Law" for remission of sins we know Abraham didn't have because Levi wasn't born yet.

Could this be the "law of Works" Paul is speaking about that the Jews were still pushing? Could this be the Law that was "ADDED" to God's Commandments?

I think scriptures support this view.

Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.



28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Gal. 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

18 For if the inheritance be of the law,(ceremonial "works" of the Levitical Priesthood) it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Abraham had laws, just not the Levitical Priesthood "Law of Works"





19 Wherefore then serveth the law?(Law of Works) It was added because of transgressions,(to an existing law) till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

So then it appears that a more accurate statement would be "Christians are not under the Levitical Priesthood sacrificial ceremonial "Works of the Law" for remission of sins.

Something to consider.

Rom 3: 20 - Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Levitical law does not fit. It does not give us knowledge of sin, It is again just symbolic of what must be done to PAYL for sin, once we have been proven Guilty by the moral law


Rom 5 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. 16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
20 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more, 21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

levitical law can not be used here, Levitical law does not judge, Moral law has to be context. Because moral law is what condemns, or judges a person (who breaks the law) Levitical law is symbolic of the answer the the condemnation. The death of Christ.


Rom 7 - 4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”[a] 8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead. 9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death. 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me. 12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.

again, Not levitical law. For the levitical law can not tell us what sin is, the moral law does this.

Also proves the moral law which kills was not given until moses, because there was sin before the law was given, but in all these examples. The person did not die until the law told what sin was (thou shalt not covet) Paul makes it clear. The commandment (ie though shalt not covet) which he and the jewish people thought brought life, brought instead death. Again, the levitical law was symbolic of the answer which was fulfilled by CHrist. Not the law which caused us to die.

James 2 - but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors

again, not levitical law. The levitical law does not condemn us, It shows us the answer to sin the thing needed to bring us who are dead because of sin back to life.

 

[Studyman]

The law spoken of in Gal 3:17-21 was not added to another "law":

Galatians 3:

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.



vs 17 – God gave the promise to Abraham.

vs 19 – The law was added because of transgressions till the Seed should come to Whom the promise was made.

vs 17 – the law which was 430 years after the promise does not and cannot disannul the promise.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

 

[Grandpa]

Hebrews 7:18-19
[FONT=&quot]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

2 Peter 3:17-18
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[FONT=&quot]17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

2 Corinthians 3:6-9
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[FONT=&quot]6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Hebrews 4:2-3
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[FONT=&quot]2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Galatians 3:10-12
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[FONT=&quot]10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.[/FONT]

 

[Marcelo]

Originally Posted by LoveGodForever

A different Gospel is one that tries to do away with God's WORD (the law of Moses) or only uses some of God's WORD to make it of none effect.

If this is true, how come Paul wrote the following:

Galatians 5:2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.

See? Only those who let themselves be circumcised are obligated to obey the law.

 

[Studyman]

=eternally-gratefull;3383828]Rom 3: 20 - Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Levitical law does not fit. It does not give us knowledge of sin, It is again just symbolic of what must be done to PAYL for sin, once we have been proven Guilty by the moral law

Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by(Law of) faith without the deeds of the law.(Law of works)

Rom 5 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 (For until(Before) the law(Law of Works) sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. (There was Law, just not the Law of Works)14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. 16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
20 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more, 21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

levitical law can not be used here, Levitical law does not judge, Moral law has to be context. Because moral law is what condemns, or judges a person (who breaks the law) Levitical law is symbolic of the answer the the condemnation. The death of Christ.

This is speaking to the Laws Abraham kept,(Law of Faith) not the Levitical Priesthood that was not "ADDED" yet.

Rom 7 - 4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit(Alive in Christ) and not in the oldness of the letter.(Dead in our sins)7 What shall we say then?

Is the law sin?(

Law of faith) Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”[a](This is not speaking to the "ADDED" Levitical Priesthood) 8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead. 9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death. 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me. 12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.

Heb. 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

10 Commandments = Law of Faith, ""good" "Just" "holy"

Levitical Priesthood= Law of Works, "Carnal commandment"

"If you want to inherit life, keep the Commandments. "WHICH" ones, the "Law of works" or the "Law of Faith".

Jesus answers quoting not the Levitical Priesthood "Law of Works" but the Good, just and Holy Law of Faith, that Abraham obeyed.

again, Not levitical law. For the levitical law can not tell us what sin is, the moral law does this.

Yes, the LP was only to #1. administer God's Moral Law. Heb. 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,)

#2. Cleanse sins we may have committed by ceremonies and sacrifices which foreshadowed what Jesus would do for us.

Heb. 9:9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

Also proves the moral law which kills was not given until moses, because there was sin before the law was given, but in all these examples. The person did not die until the law told what sin was (thou shalt not covet) Paul makes it clear. The commandment (ie though shalt not covet) which he and the jewish people thought brought life, brought instead death. Again, the levitical law was symbolic of the answer which was fulfilled by CHrist. Not the law which caused us to die.

Gen. 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Gen. 13:13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.

Gen. 18:20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

Gen. 39:9 There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God?

James 2 - but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors

All this transgression had nothing to do with the Levitical Priesthood, rather, God's moral Law, the ":Law of Faith" which was there in the beginning and people chose to follow, like Abel, Noah and Abraham, or not, like Eve, Cain and Sodom.

again, not levitical law. The levitical law does not condemn us, It shows us the answer to sin the thing needed to bring us who are dead because of sin back to life.

Yes. So shall we sin after we are brought to life? We agree that we should not, YES!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you know how to edit after you post. Would be nice if did not have to clean up errors in responses..

Rom 3: 20 - Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.



Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by(Law of) faith without the deeds of the law.(Law of works)

This is speaking to the Laws Abraham kept,(Law of Faith) not the Levitical Priesthood that was not "ADDED" yet.

Heb. 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

10 Commandments = Law of Faith, ""good" "Just" "holy"

Levitical Priesthood= Law of Works, "Carnal commandment"

"If you want to inherit life, keep the Commandments. "WHICH" ones, the "Law of works" or the "Law of Faith".

Jesus answers quoting not the Levitical Priesthood "Law of Works" but the Good, just and Holy Law of Faith, that Abraham obeyed.

The law of faith is this,

Abraham BELEIVED God and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

Paul said the command killed. The command is not the law of faith, it is the law of death

Yes, the LP was only to #1. administer God's Moral Law.

Heb. 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,)

#2. Cleanse sins we may have committed by ceremonies and sacrifices which foreshadowed what Jesus would do for us.

Heb. 9:9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.



Gen. 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Gen. 13:13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.

Gen. 18:20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

Gen. 39:9 There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God?

James 2 - but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors

All this transgression had nothing to do with the Levitical Priesthood, rather, God's moral Law, the ":Law of Faith" which was there in the beginning and people chose to follow, like Abel, Noah and Abraham, or not, like Eve, Cain and Sodom.

Yes. So shall we sin after we are brought to life? We agree that we should not, YES!

If you do sin and you are under law. Your penalty is death.

Period.

Levitical law can not kill you. Nor is it the law of works.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

The commandments in existence at time of Abraham were contained in the covenant God made with Noah:

Gen 9:1 – repopulate the earth
Gen 9:2-3 – plants and animals under control of mankind
Gen 9:4 – do not eat meat with the blood still in it
Gen 9:5 – do not murder
Gen 9:6 – shed the blood of those who shed blood


In the context of Gal 3, Paul speaks of the covenant made solely by God. Abraham slept while God confirmed His promise to Abraham (see Gen 15:4-21, and especially vss 12 and 17). Heb 6:13 tells us For when God made promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no greater, He swear by Himself.

Then in Gal 3:17, Paul writes the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after --- 430 years after what? After the covenant was confirmed before of God in Christ. The law that came 430 years after the covenant cannot disannul the covenant.

What Gal 3 is telling us is that fulfillment of the promise does not rest upon our keeping the law. Fulfillment of the promise rests solely upon God's faithfulness to fulfill that which He promised to Abraham.

Those who partake of God's promise to Abraham do so through the same faith Abraham had whereby he attained the promise.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Originally Posted by LoveGodForever

A different Gospel is one that tries to do away with God's WORD (the law of Moses) or only uses some of God's WORD to make it of none effect.

If this is true, how come Paul wrote the following:

Galatians 5:2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.

See? Only those who let themselves be circumcised are obligated to obey the law.

Hello Marcelo, please do not quote me and add things into my posts that I did not say (highlighter in RED above; see original post # 8 linked)

Circumcision is included in the laws of Moses written in the Book of Moses originally given to Abraham and passed down to the Children of Israel. It is one of the many Shadows pointing to the New Covenant of God's Law (10 commandments) written on the heart. (Romans 2:27-29; Hebrews 8:10-12; 1 Cor 7:19).

The Mosaic laws for remission of SIN are NOT God's Law (10 commandments) which gives the knowledge of Good and Evil (SIN and Righteousness) see Romans 3:20; 7:7; James 2:11 and 1 John 3:4. SIN is still SIN as shown through God's LAW.

If you KNOWINGLY break any of Gods commandments and SIN and do NOT REPENT and seek God's FORGIVENESS of your SINS your SINS will keep ALL who are in the practice of BREAKING any one of God's commandments OUT of God's Kingdom because you have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son (Romans 6:23; Hebrews 10:26-27)

May God help you as you seek Him through His Word

 

[OtherWay210]

The different gospel, is in reference to the fake jews in the priesthood that would send people to try and convert them into basically the old covenant .. But there is a bit more to that. Remember those Paul worked for, before his conversion, though they held Moses seat in a sense ; Christ called out as being fake ; and ignoring the laws of Moses for the traditions of their own fathers. Traditions which were Not found in the law of the OT. Not Gods words. Even some being appointed by the Romans, not God.

So the statement is not a jab at the Bible, nor Gods laws, its a warning against specifically those who were infiltrating the group, and drawing them into false teachings, Very much applies today, with such things as rapture in my view. Or those spreading bad fruits ' with catch phrase like, just believe and be saved, disregard Gods Bible the way its written for drive through doctrines .

 

[Hizikyah]

I don't get you! Loveme1 told me to continue reading (Galatians 1) and I did it til the end.

Im not sure what this has to do with anything I said.

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."


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[dcontroversal]

Faith plus works for salvation....

 

[Hizikyah]

Faith plus works for salvation....

I thought faith without works was dead? and works was the sign of true faith?

James 2:14-26, “14 My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him. 15, "And if a brother or sister is naked and in need of daily food, 16, "but one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” but you do not give them the bodily needs, what use is it? 17, "So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead. 18, "But someone might say, “You have belief, and I have works.” Show me your belief without your works, and I shall show you my belief by my works. 19, "You believe that Yah is one. You do well. The demons also believe – and shudder! 20, "But do you wish to know, O empty man, that the belief without the works is dead? 21, "Was not Aḇraham our father declared right by works when he offered Yitsḥaq his son on the slaughter-place? 22, "Do you see that the belief was working with his works, and by the works the belief was perfected? 23, "And the Scripture was filled which says, “Aḇraham believed Yah, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness.” And He called him, “he who loves Yah. 24, "You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone. 25, "In the same way, was not Raḥaḇ the whore also declared right by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? 26, “For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works.”

I wonder if James (Yahshua/Jesus) brother wrote his letter in response to Galatians?

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 14:12-13, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the Commands of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and the Belief of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Master from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, in order that they rest from their labors, and their works follow with them.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 2:12, “For as many as have sinned without the Law, will also perish without the Law, and as many as have sinned in the Law, will be judged by the Law.”[/FONT]

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