Why the Gap Theory is unacceptable

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Lucy-Pevensie

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There is a "gap" in your data bank. Please note:

GENESIS 1

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And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day...

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And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day...

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And the evening and the morning were the third day...

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And the evening and the morning were the fourth day...

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And the evening and the morning were the fifth day...

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And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Now who can deny that "evening and morning" repeated six times defines each day, and it is also stated plainly as a specific day?
But what of the seventh? God rested. No mention of "evening then morning the seventh day." It leaves an unspecified time period for the seventh day.
 

oldhermit

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I do not believe in the gap theory. I have read Genesis 1 in Hebrew, and although I am not close to where Marc is, I didn’t not see a gap. It is just not there.

What I do remember is all the theosophy and books by Blavatsky and Alice Bailey I read, that claim all this nonsense. But so much more! Atlantis, reincarnation, it got so esoteric it was crazy. And of course Jesus, ONE of the ascended masters.

People need to stick to the Bible. Even if a gap is remotely hinted at in Genesis, we know nothing, and idle speculation is unproductive and good for nothing!
It is interesting how mere speculation so easily become doctrine. This is what happened to those in Romans 1. "For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools,"
 

oldhermit

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I have a question for those of you who hold the gap theory. I just want to make sure I understand your position correctly. Is it your opinion that "in the beginning" represents a period of undefined and unqualified time before the creation events of chapter one, and that the events of chapter one are separated by eons of time from "in the beginning?"
 

trofimus

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#44
There is a "gap" in your data bank. Please note:

GENESIS 1

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And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day...

Now who can deny that "evening and morning" repeated six times defines each day, and it is also stated plainly as a specific day?
Everyone who is reading the text more carefuly and not just "evening and morning".

For example, there could not be real evening/morning before sun (if you believe that sun was created later than our planet).

For another example, Adam could not be created, to know and name all millions of animals (or probably billions, if you believe all animals were living in the same epoch) and to feel lonely in just one literal day.

Etc.
 
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#45
There is a "gap" in your data bank. Please note:

GENESIS 1

5
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day...

8
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day...

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And the evening and the morning were the third day...

19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day...

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And the evening and the morning were the fifth day...

31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Now who can deny that "evening and morning" repeated six times defines each day, and it is also stated plainly as a specific day?
There's a lot you're not taking into account here neh. For instance, you are insisting on literal 24 hour days before the sun and moon were ever created. We mark a day by the sun and moon and what they do, but it is doubtful, to me, that God marked what He called a day by a sun and moon not yet created.

That's just one of the things I don't think you take into account. That you are marking days by a light that wasn't created yet. In my opinion.
 
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Learned men did come to that conclusion. I still stand by the fact that they came to their conclusion with Darwinism in the back of their minds. The gap theory is just a theory.. Where is the gap? where does it say in sipture that God created the world and basically satan ruined it..so God started again and then satan ruined it again? that is what I would call a gap!

But I know a small amount of people still hold this view... I just can;t see it being a tenable argument..and the vast majority of scholars now agree. I don't believe the 'linguistics' conclude a two world creation.
I disagree that Darwinism was the catalyst. I think the meaning of the Hebrew words was the catalyst. Just my opinion, based on the Hebrew words being much different than the translation conveys. Good morning by the way!
 

oldhermit

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There's a lot you're not taking into account here neh. For instance, you are insisting on literal 24 hour days before the sun and moon were ever created. We mark a day by the sun and moon and what they do, but it is doubtful, to me, that God marked what He called a day by a sun and moon not yet created.

That's just one of the things I don't think you take into account. That you are marking days by a light that wasn't created yet. In my opinion.
Do you think the only way for time to be quantified is by the existence of the sun and moon?
 

p_rehbein

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If the Gap theory is proven unacceptable, uh, er, do I have to take my Jeans back?
 
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Do you think the only way for time to be quantified is by the existence of the sun and moon?
No...I think a morning and evening for a human such as myself is one rising of sun and moon. But an evening and morning BEFORE the creation OF them is curious.

When God said let there be light, this was not referring to the sun but to the SON, whom through all we see was created. So I think He marked time starting with when He brought Light to a dark place. The light of the sun is very obviously not the light that marked the first day, because it was not yet created.
 

oldhermit

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No...I think a morning and evening for a human such as myself is one rising of sun and moon. But an evening and morning BEFORE the creation OF them is curious.

When God said let there be light, this was not referring to the sun but to the SON, whom through all we see was created. So I think He marked time starting with when He brought Light to a dark place. The light of the sun is very obviously not the light that marked the first day, because it was not yet created.
Would you agree that it is God and not the sun and moon who is responsible for creating, qualifying, and quantifying time?
 
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Would you agree that it is God and not the sun and moon who is responsible for creating, qualifying, and quantifying time?
Yes. But also, I agree that the way we mark a day is by an evening and morning through a cycle of sun and moon as he gave the sun and moon FOR us to mark time and season. But the first few days were not marked out by them because they weren't created and neither was man.

God began marking time apart from them. He began marking time by the moment He called the uncreated Light to this dark place.

So the first days were not marked by them but rather by a different Light.

We go by a 24 hour cycle and we are held to it. God doesn't sleep.
 

tourist

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If the Gap theory is proven unacceptable, uh, er, do I have to take my Jeans back?
You may need a receipt unless you bought them at Walmart. They'll take anything back no questions asked.
 

MichaelOwen

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If the Gap theory is proven unacceptable, uh, er, do I have to take my Jeans back?
This was the best response to this thread.....welp....looks like Gap will be losing a lot of business :rolleyes:
 

oldhermit

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Yes. But also, I agree that the way we mark a day is by an evening and morning through a cycle of sun and moon as he gave the sun and moon FOR us to mark time and season. But the first few days were not marked out by them because they weren't created and neither was man.

God began marking time apart from them. He began marking time by the moment He called the uncreated Light to this dark place.

So the first days were not marked by them but rather by a different Light.

We go by a 24 hour cycle and we are held to it. God doesn't sleep.
What is there about the evening and morning of the first day and the evening and the morning of the fourth day that you find hard to reconcile? Is us just because of the absence of the sun and moon or is there something else?
 
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What is there about the evening and morning of the first day and the evening and the morning of the fourth day that you find hard to reconcile? Is us just because of the absence of the sun and moon or is there something else?
I don't have any problem reconciling them. The first cycle of darkness to light just doesn't appear to be based on the creation of them.
 
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Let me ask you, hermit, when God said let there be light, do you believe this to be the uncreated Light that lights every man coming into the world?
 
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oldhermit

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Let me ask you, hermit, when God said let there be light, do believe this to be the uncreated Light that lights every man coming into the world?
No. John tells us that that light is Jesus, and he is not a product of creation. He is in fact the Creator. This light is not that which represents the glory of God such as we find in the dedication of the Temple. This is light that did not existed before this time. This is light that is called into existence by the command of God. This is light that is comprised of matter. It is created light that is not produced by celestial sources. It is only human speculation and presumption that would insist that physical light that is comprised of matter cannot exist without some kind of celestial bodies. The fact that these sources were not yet created tells us that in the natural world, material light preceded stars or any other natural source.