Would you still Love God?

[Depleted]

I have a question for every one.

Would you love God IF; He didn't Heal(I believe in divine healing)? He didn't answer prayer? If He didn't save you?

not only this, i would like to ask that if you were to love God, it would mean taking the lowest poorest state imaginable, taking on the greatest suffering and sickness (like a leper) and not only that but choosing God ment CHOOSING HELL.

Would you still Choose to love Him?

No. I wouldn't. I wouldn't because if he never answered prayer it would prove he is a liar. If he is a liar, he's certainly not God. So why would I follow him if I can't trust him and he's not God?

This question is like asking "Would you still believe in the sun if it was a snowball?" Kind of silly question because if the sun was a snowball, the whole substance of the solar system would evaporate so there is no way we'd be here to have that conversation. It sounds like an interesting conversation, but it is really hyperbole against logic thought, so not as interesting as it sounds on the surface. It even loses at the concept that we chose him to begin with.

 

[Depleted]

Loving God is nothing more than loving your neighbor and helping those in need.

So you think God is a philosophical/moral stance? Yikes!

 

[Depleted]

Well aside from what I said that God does not heal, save or answer a man because of his lack of faith or his sinful life.

I believe that God has a right time when you will be healed, answered or saved.

Remember it took 430 years for the children of Israel to be saved from the bondage of Pharaoh.

It took many years for a blind man to be cured by Christ.

I never believe that God will never answer, cure or heal any men unless you lack faith or living a sinful life.

He just have the right time for each man when He wants to do this on him.

So, he's going to save everyone if we just give him 430 years to get it done? Yikes!

 

[wanderer6059]

No. I wouldn't. I wouldn't because if he never answered prayer it would prove he is a liar. If he is a liar, he's certainly not God. So why would I follow him if I can't trust him and he's not God?

This question is like asking "Would you still believe in the sun if it was a snowball?" Kind of silly question because if the sun was a snowball, the whole substance of the solar system would evaporate so there is no way we'd be here to have that conversation. It sounds like an interesting conversation, but it is really hyperbole against logic thought, so not as interesting as it sounds on the surface. It even loses at the concept that we chose him to begin with.

is called creative thought, thinking of what you give on a daily for Him or your neighbor because of what He was willing to give for you. open up you mind and eyes a bit sister, stop taking things so seriously

 

[Shamah]

No. I wouldn't. I wouldn't because if he never answered prayer it would prove he is a liar. If he is a liar, he's certainly not God. So why would I follow him if I can't trust him and he's not God?

This question is like asking "Would you still believe in the sun if it was a snowball?" Kind of silly question because if the sun was a snowball, the whole substance of the solar system would evaporate so there is no way we'd be here to have that conversation. It sounds like an interesting conversation, but it is really hyperbole against logic thought, so not as interesting as it sounds on the surface. It even loses at the concept that we chose him to begin with.

What if we pray for something He does not want for us? He would not do things to make it happen nor present it to us.

or

What if He sets something before us that we do not want even thought it is what is best? Anything could happen, He could even punish for disobedience. (Hebrews 12:5-9,5 And you have forgotten the appeal which speaks to you as to sons, “My son, do not despise the discipline of יהוה, nor faint when you are reproved by Him,"6 for whom יהוה loves, He disciplines, and flogs every son whom He receives.” Pro 3:11-12."7 If you endure discipline, Elohim is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom a father does not discipline?"8 But if you are without discipline, of which all have become sharers, then you are illegitimate and not sons."9 Moreover, we indeed had fathers of our flesh disciplining us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits, and live?")

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Proverbs 3:5-7, “Trust in [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; Know Him in all your ways, And He makes all your paths straight Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and turn away from evil.”[/FONT]

 

[garee]

I have a question for every one.

Would you love God IF; He didn't Heal(I believe in divine healing)? He didn't answer prayer? If He didn't save you?

not only this, i would like to ask that if you were to love God, it would mean taking the lowest poorest state imaginable, taking on the greatest suffering and sickness (like a leper) and not only that but choosing God ment CHOOSING HELL.

Would you still Choose to love Him?

We walk by the eternal faith, not seen. The law offaith must be established in the parables according to the prescription givenin 2 Corinthians.

The gospel is not concerned with these bodies of death.God heals all His creatures indiscriminately.

2Corinthians 4:18While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the thingswhich are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the thingswhich are not seen are eternal.

The focus is never on the temporal .As in all parables theSpirit of Christ hides the spiritual meaning from unconverted man who dobelieve something when seen with their eyes.

A good example is seen with John who was facing suredeath and had some doubt.
Christ came to give spiritual sight to the lost, as wellas ears to hear the gospel in order for the spiritually lame to walk , the lepers are used to show those dead in their trespasses and sin they will be raised,those spiritually bankrupt (poor) willbe given the richness of the gospel

Luke7:22Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, andtell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lamewalk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

It is why he came .

John9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world,that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

Isaiah29:18And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and theeyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

Isaiah42:18Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see.

 

[Zmouth]

No. I wouldn't. I wouldn't because if he never answered prayer it would prove he is a liar. If he is a liar, he's certainly not God. So why would I follow him if I can't trust him and he's not God?

Don't you mean if he didn't answer all prayers?

21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. 22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
Matt 21:21-22

 

[Zmouth]

We walk by the eternal faith, not seen.

Could you clarify what you are referring unto as the 'eternal' faith?

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

While an interesting statement, considering that Paul saw a light above the brightness of the sun would be indicative that the light that he saw was not eternal, since things which are seen are not eternal.

At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. Acts 26:13

 

[Zmouth]

If one loves the truth then why would the God of truth have to do anything in order for someone to love it?

 

[breno785au]

I have a question for every one.

Would you love God IF; He didn't Heal(I believe in divine healing)? He didn't answer prayer? If He didn't save you?

not only this, i would like to ask that if you were to love God, it would mean taking the lowest poorest state imaginable, taking on the greatest suffering and sickness (like a leper) and not only that but choosing God ment CHOOSING HELL.

Would you still Choose to love Him?

I think this is such a silly question.

Weove Him because He first loved us and we love Him for who He is as He reveals Himself to us.

If He didn't answer my prayer for me to know who He is then there would be no one for me to know who to love.

Such questions are so meaningless.

 

[Depleted]

What if we pray for something He does not want for us? He would not do things to make it happen nor present it to us.

or

What if He sets something before us that we do not want even thought it is what is best? Anything could happen, He could even punish for disobedience. (Hebrews 12:5-9,5 And you have forgotten the appeal which speaks to you as to sons, “My son, do not despise the discipline of יהוה, nor faint when you are reproved by Him,"6 for whom יהוה loves, He disciplines, and flogs every son whom He receives.” Pro 3:11-12."7 If you endure discipline, Elohim is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom a father does not discipline?"8 But if you are without discipline, of which all have become sharers, then you are illegitimate and not sons."9 Moreover, we indeed had fathers of our flesh disciplining us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits, and live?")

Proverbs 3:5-7, “Trust in יהוה with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; Know Him in all your ways, And He makes all your paths straight Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear יהוה and turn away from evil.”

Matt. 6:33 [FONT=&quot]But [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]seek first [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]the kingdom of God and his righteousness, [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]and all these things will be added to you.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]34 “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.[/FONT]

 

[Depleted]

is called creative thought, thinking of what you give on a daily for Him or your neighbor because of what He was willing to give for you. open up you mind and eyes a bit sister, stop taking things so seriously

Sorry, not going to ever stop taking what God says and does less seriously for creativity's sake.

 

[blossom68]

yes!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Adstar]

I have a question for every one.

Would you love God IF; He didn't Heal(I believe in divine healing)? He didn't answer prayer?

Yeah.. My God has decided not to heal me on some occasions. His will be done.. I still love Him..
And yeah my God has very often not granted requests.. I still love Him because i trust in His wisdom on the matter..

If He didn't save you?

I would still admire God because His wisdom is good and true.. If he decided not to save me i would know that it was my fault not His fault.. He is perfect and without fault..

not only this, i would like to ask that if you were to love God, it would mean taking the lowest poorest state imaginable, taking on the greatest suffering and sickness (like a leper) and not only that but choosing God ment CHOOSING HELL.

No.. We mst be prepared to lose everything and we must be prepared to face severe persecution even unto death for our Faith in God but that does not mean we will or must go through that level of extreme suffering.. And no we are not called upon to go to Hell.. The LORD Jesus Christ died on the cross to save us from entering Hell..

 

[OneFaith]

I have a question for every one.

Would you love God IF; He didn't Heal(I believe in divine healing)? He didn't answer prayer? If He didn't save you?

not only this, i would like to ask that if you were to love God, it would mean taking the lowest poorest state imaginable, taking on the greatest suffering and sickness (like a leper) and not only that but choosing God ment CHOOSING HELL.

Would you still Choose to love Him?

Yes I love God whether or not He heals me or blesses me.

God always answers every single one of His children’s prayers (yes, no, or wait).

If He didn’t save me? Absolutely. I already told Him, “If I ever go to hell, then I will love You from afar. No fire or worms or darkness could ever be more painful to me than not being with You. Wherever I end up is in Your hands, but one thing is certain: I love you now, and I will never stop loving You for all eternity, no matter where I am or what I experience.”

Nothing could ever be worse than to be separated from God.

 

[wanderer6059]

Sorry, not going to ever stop taking what God says and does less seriously for creativity's sake.

so you can stop for a minute to think if you would take on yourself what the Lord endured for you? thats taking God seriously sister, what you are doing is being simple and shallow minded, open your eyes a bit and get another look at the way He works, its beautiful.

 

[wanderer6059]

I think this is such a silly question.

Weove Him because He first loved us and we love Him for who He is as He reveals Himself to us.

If He didn't answer my prayer for me to know who He is then there would be no one for me to know who to love.

Such questions are so meaningless.

how is it silly to say hey would you do what Jesus did for you? would you love God even if He didn't first love you. questions like this are never meanngless because they help focus ourselves outward thinking of Him and others more of our-self.

 

[wanderer6059]

No.. We mst be prepared to lose everything and we must be prepared to face severe persecution even unto death for our Faith in God but that does not mean we will or must go through that level of extreme suffering.. And no we are not called upon to go to Hell.. The LORD Jesus Christ died on the cross to save us from entering Hell..

thats the point of my question would you endure what Jesus endured for you for His sake? He so loved us that he was mor than willing to walk into hell, so why shouldn't i be just as willing for His sake.

i just say this because i think i have the audacity to let fear get in the way of me going and telling someone about how He took hell fro me, all because i feel a little uncomfortable.

 

[preacher4truth]

I have a question for every one.

Would you love God IF; He didn't Heal(I believe in divine healing)? He didn't answer prayer? If He didn't save you?

It appears you are really asking (perhaps without knowing) if the lost love God. They do not, they are enemies of God, hostile toward him, and at enmity with him.

not only this, i would like to ask that if you were to love God, it would mean taking the lowest poorest state imaginable, taking on the greatest suffering and sickness (like a leper) and not only that but choosing God ment CHOOSING HELL.

There is no such reality.

Would you still Choose to love Him?

We love him because he first loved us, otherwise we'd still be hostile toward God, and at enmity with him. Man cannot choose to love God, man cannot even come to God unless it has been granted by the Father.

 

[wanderer6059]

It appears you are really asking (perhaps without knowing) if the lost love God. They do not, they are enemies of God, hostile toward him, and at enmity with him.



There is no such reality.



We love him because he first loved us, otherwise we'd still be hostile toward God, and at enmity with him. Man cannot choose to love God, man cannot even come to God unless it has been granted by the Father.

i am asking believes to think about how much He loves us, and also if they are committed to loving the lost the same.

lot of people missing the point on this lol