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snugpug240

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wow, thank u for all of ur comments!! im so glad we are able to discuss this topic, and although many of us are very passionate about our beliefs, i am thankful that everyone has remained respectful of everyone else's opinions. (well, except for that one guy lol) thank u very much everyone!! i am certainly getting a much clearer picture of what God thinks about tattoos!!
 
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CameronMMS

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something I asked...
 
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DanuckInUSA

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#44
So it is all figure out then?
 
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CameronMMS

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#45
eeeerrrrrrmmmmm I don't know... I feel bad now knowing that it might've been me :/ uugh!
 
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Valence

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It's interesting, isn't it, that people talk about tattoos being bad in relation to our bodies being temples for God, but not so many Christians are willing to be as vehement when it comes to over eating, as if one sin (if the first is a sin) is greater than the other. Are there any other verses about tattoos? Because the only one that came up with the search "tattoo" on my Bible software was the Lev 19:28 mentioned already in this thread, that seems to specify tattooing as an act of mourning.

When God's grace is mentioned, we often think immediately of His sacrifice on the cross, His willingness to forgive us over and over again, His ability to make good what people mean to be evil, but maybe His grace also encompasses the things that He gives us because He loves us and likes to see us enjoy His gifts. Oranges, for instance. The human race could live without oranges, but God gave them to us anyways, because He is good and gracious. It is, however, possible to eat too many oranges and become sick, as it is possible to drink too much wine and become drunk, or drive your car heedlessly and kill someone in a wreck (though not all wrecks are caused by heedlessness, don't get me wrong). Those things by themselves, oranges, wine, modern transportation, are not evil, but we can use them in ways that are sinful. Perhaps this also applies to tattoos and piercings?

Personally I have no plans on getting any tattoos (this mental image of a tattoo on old saggy, age marked skin keeps popping up in my head ;) ) though it doesn't really bother me if other people have them. However, a neat solution for those of us who don't like the idea of permanence is a do-it-yourself henna kit. Indigo also, though I haven't tried it. Henna is super easy and lasts anywhere from a few days to a few weeks, so if you don't like it, you don't have to put up with it for long. My fam did henna together and we really had a great time coming up with designs and wearing the henna. Also we practiced beforehand with decorators icing, to make sure we liked the designs, of course ;)


EDIT: Just realized how much that last bit sounded like a commercial, "But wait! There's more! Call within the next five minutes and get...." Yeah, sorry :D
 
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JimM1228

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It's interesting, isn't it, that people talk about tattoos being bad in relation to our bodies being temples for God, but not so many Christians are willing to be as vehement when it comes to over eating, as if one sin (if the first is a sin) is greater than the other. Are there any other verses about tattoos? Because the only one that came up with the search "tattoo" on my Bible software was the Lev 19:28 mentioned already in this thread, that seems to specify tattooing as an act of mourning.

When God's grace is mentioned, we often think immediately of His sacrifice on the cross, His willingness to forgive us over and over again, His ability to make good what people mean to be evil, but maybe His grace also encompasses the things that He gives us because He loves us and likes to see us enjoy His gifts. Oranges, for instance. The human race could live without oranges, but God gave them to us anyways, because He is good and gracious. It is, however, possible to eat too many oranges and become sick, as it is possible to drink too much wine and become drunk, or drive your car heedlessly and kill someone in a wreck (though not all wrecks are caused by heedlessness, don't get me wrong). Those things by themselves, oranges, wine, modern transportation, are not evil, but we can use them in ways that are sinful. Perhaps this also applies to tattoos and piercings?

Personally I have no plans on getting any tattoos (this mental image of a tattoo on old saggy, age marked skin keeps popping up in my head ;) ) though it doesn't really bother me if other people have them. However, a neat solution for those of us who don't like the idea of permanence is a do-it-yourself henna kit. Indigo also, though I haven't tried it. Henna is super easy and lasts anywhere from a few days to a few weeks, so if you don't like it, you don't have to put up with it for long. My fam did henna together and we really had a great time coming up with designs and wearing the henna. Also we practiced beforehand with decorators icing, to make sure we liked the designs, of course ;)


EDIT: Just realized how much that last bit sounded like a commercial, "But wait! There's more! Call within the next five minutes and get...." Yeah, sorry :D
i agree with you but more sin doesn't lead to more grace. and we are to enjoy HIS gifts. not man made gifts that tempt us. although i made the mistake(according to my personal belief) of getting a few tats i will not get anymore. i don't need them to show off or start a convo. i need to have a Christ centered life and it is only then that i will truly show others Christ and his ways.
 
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Valence

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i agree with you but more sin doesn't lead to more grace. and we are to enjoy HIS gifts. not man made gifts that tempt us. although i made the mistake(according to my personal belief) of getting a few tats i will not get anymore. i don't need them to show off or start a convo. i need to have a Christ centered life and it is only then that i will truly show others Christ and his ways.
Thanks for answering :) I'm wondering if the word "tempt" is being properly applied here; if the action isn't a sin, then can we truly be tempted? Idk, not very good at this, but it seems like the attitude of the person getting the tattoo would have a lot to do with whether or not it is a sin. What do you mean by "man made gifts"? Where can we draw that line? Shall we refuse to take a sick child to the doctor because the techniques used by the doctor have not been present since the dawn of time and therefore are "man made gifts"? What do we have that God has not given to us? It's not as if God just set the clock ticking once He finished creating the world, "There you go, little people, I've done my job, the rest is all for you to sort out." Thank goodness, 'cause we'd all be in a world of hurt ;)

At the same time, if getting a tattoo is such a big deal to the people around you, it would be better not to get one. Correct me if I'm wrong, proper hermeneutics is a fairly new concept for me, but 1 Cor 8 looks like a good example of this.

Now concerning food offered to idols: we know that “all of us possess knowledge.” This “knowledge” puffs up, but love builds up. 2 If anyone imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know. 3 But if anyone loves God, he is known by God.
4 Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that “an idol has no real existence,” and that “there is no God but one.” 5 For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”— 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
7 However, not all possess this knowledge. But some, through former association with idols, eat food as really offered to an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. 8 Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. 9 But take care that this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. 10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol’s temple, will he not be encouraged, if his conscience is weak, to eat food offered to idols? 11 And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died. 12 Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.


The Holy Bible : English standard version. 2001 (1 Co 8:1–13). Wheaton: Standard Bible Society.

What do you think? :)
 
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Valence

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Also, just for curiosity's sake, what's your definition of "A Christ centered life"? people have so many different opinions on the subject anymore that it's nice to know :)

Oh hey, is double posting ok on this forum? I didn't see it in the rules but could easily have missed it. Sorry if it's wrong!
 
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InkedFaith

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#50
I obviously believe it is up to me whether i get tattooed or pierced. But, sense i am a practitioner and tradesman of body modification I feel my opinion Biased as someone who is dead against it because they made decisions that turned out to be something THEY no longer support.
 
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JimM1228

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#51
Thanks for answering :) I'm wondering if the word "tempt" is being properly applied here; if the action isn't a sin, then can we truly be tempted? Idk, not very good at this, but it seems like the attitude of the person getting the tattoo would have a lot to do with whether or not it is a sin. What do you mean by "man made gifts"? Where can we draw that line? Shall we refuse to take a sick child to the doctor because the techniques used by the doctor have not been present since the dawn of time and therefore are "man made gifts"? What do we have that God has not given to us? It's not as if God just set the clock ticking once He finished creating the world, "There you go, little people, I've done my job, the rest is all for you to sort out." Thank goodness, 'cause we'd all be in a world of hurt ;)

At the same time, if getting a tattoo is such a big deal to the people around you, it would be better not to get one. Correct me if I'm wrong, proper hermeneutics is a fairly new concept for me, but 1 Cor 8 looks like a good example of this.

Now concerning food offered to idols: we know that “all of us possess knowledge.” This “knowledge” puffs up, but love builds up. 2 If anyone imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know. 3 But if anyone loves God, he is known by God.
4 Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that “an idol has no real existence,” and that “there is no God but one.” 5 For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”— 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
7 However, not all possess this knowledge. But some, through former association with idols, eat food as really offered to an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. 8 Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. 9 But take care that this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. 10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol’s temple, will he not be encouraged, if his conscience is weak, to eat food offered to idols? 11 And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died. 12 Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.


The Holy Bible : English standard version. 2001 (1 Co 8:1–13). Wheaton: Standard Bible Society.

What do you think? :)
i see what you are saying and what i mean by man made is the tattoo itself. perhaps i worded it wrong. the artist is not a sin, his skill is not a sin, however the marking on your body MAY be. the process of it MAY be. not the person doing it. and you cannot really compare tattooing to a doctor. a dr saves lives and helps people with illness. a tattoo artist does not do anything to hurt or benefit anyone, well maybe hurt lol but like i said the new covenant(referring to your verses) was indeed made when Christ died and we no longer have to sacrifice to God.

i hope that helped sorry im at work so had to make it short.

please pick up the book by tim keller, called counterfeit Gods. it is all about idolatry and i think youd love it! it is a new view on what we may idolize without realizing etc. i encourage you to look it up. God Bless
 
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JimM1228

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Also, just for curiosity's sake, what's your definition of "A Christ centered life"? people have so many different opinions on the subject anymore that it's nice to know :)

Oh hey, is double posting ok on this forum? I didn't see it in the rules but could easily have missed it. Sorry if it's wrong!
hello friend,
Easily answered for me atleast. making God priority, dedicating as much time as i can to him, his worship, and his Glory. that can be done in many ways such as fellowship, prayer, singing etc. Along with that focusing on the Gospel as you live day to day is a great way to stay Christ centered; to have your foundation based upon what He achieved for us on the cross. My heart and foundation is based upon his death on the cross. and in that i am led to "be" a certain way in my life. a way that i feel may be glorifying God and hopefully expanding his kingdom here on earth through evangelism.
 
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I don't see anything wrong with getting a tattoo if you have the right intentions. As long as it isn't perverse or horrible, I don't think it would be desecrating your body.
 
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To sum everything up, I say if you want a tattoo, pray about it.
 
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Joshua830

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If your body is a temple then getting a tattoo is like putting graffiti on a church. You wouldnt want your grandma or a 5 year old to get a tatoo so why would you? I just think its not a natural thing god gave us to have permanent ink on ourselves and i dont believe in it either. If our main goal is to live this life the way jesus did then i believe he wouldnt want us getting tattoos but also alot of other things we do that we're not sure of. Thank you=]
 
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InkedFaith

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I say if your body is a Temple then paint the walls. I would assume your church has painted walls....
 
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If your body is a temple then getting a tattoo is like putting graffiti on a church. You wouldnt want your grandma or a 5 year old to get a tatoo so why would you? I just think its not a natural thing god gave us to have permanent ink on ourselves and i dont believe in it either. If our main goal is to live this life the way jesus did then i believe he wouldnt want us getting tattoos but also alot of other things we do that we're not sure of. Thank you=]
Who says I wouldn't want my grammie getting a tattoo? My mother got her first tattoo at Around 50 years old, I was there and supported her.
 
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Consumed

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Leviticus 19:28
You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the LORD. ESV

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if we use levitcus as the basis then we men have to stop shaving the sides of our face too, same chapter, and do everything else written in the law
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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If your body is a temple then getting a tattoo is like putting graffiti on a church. You wouldnt want your grandma or a 5 year old to get a tatoo so why would you? I just think its not a natural thing god gave us to have permanent ink on ourselves and i dont believe in it either. If our main goal is to live this life the way jesus did then i believe he wouldnt want us getting tattoos but also alot of other things we do that we're not sure of. Thank you=]

My grandma has tattoo's. Shes hardcore....


Anyways

I have a tattoo located in the very center of my facial cavity.
 

Sevndust

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i've got tattoos on the inside of my eyelids...now tell me that's not dope!