Will Jesus return in our lifetime?

[SubCruceSalus]

Assuredly I say unto you, Nod, that when the false burger king is on your tv set, that you will be likeunto Red in the film "Hoodwinked".

You will not be prepared.

 

[VW]

Jesus will return. You can go to the bank with that. Will it be tomorrow, or next week, or even next year? No, because the man of sin must be revealed first. But, soon, very soon, we shall see Him coming in the clouds in His glory. Much must as yet happen, but so much can happen in a few years. Consider just the first few years of the century, where we have just begun in the twelfth year, and already we have seen to of the largest earthquakes in history, along with two devasting tsunamis. A terriost attack of unbelievable proportions, a hurricane that wiped out a major city, an earthquake that de sated an entire country, all in just over ten years.

We have very short perceptions. This is one of our must glaring failings. We just don't have the vision to see change as it, to us, creeps by. However, change is not o ly happening at a tremendous rate, but it is accelerating. I just installed a 2 terabyte drive in my desktop. Just for grins, that number looks like this: 2,000,000,000,000. That is how many characters can be stored in one place that is only about 3" x 5" x 1" high. 20 years ago that much storage was beyond everyone's reach except a few governments.

His day is soon.

In Christ,

 

[wakeup]

To experience the return of Christ means we would first experience the Anti Christ. There will be many that will be damned because of the anti christ. People who do not follow him will suffer immense hardship. You need to be ready for that.

we need to have a very strong foundation.your near friends and family,will be your greatest enemy. they will disagree with what your are doing thinking that you have gone crazy, and will put pressure on you to take the number and finish with it,thingking to help you. must be strong,like a rock,because the enemy is strong.

''wakeup''.

 

[wakeup]

Jesus will return. You can go to the bank with that. Will it be tomorrow, or next week, or even next year? No, because the man of sin must be revealed first. But, soon, very soon, we shall see Him coming in the clouds in His glory. Much must as yet happen, but so much can happen in a few years. Consider just the first few years of the century, where we have just begun in the twelfth year, and already we have seen to of the largest earthquakes in history, along with two devasting tsunamis. A terriost attack of unbelievable proportions, a hurricane that wiped out a major city, an earthquake that de sated an entire country, all in just over ten years.

We have very short perceptions. This is one of our must glaring failings. We just don't have the vision to see change as it, to us, creeps by. However, change is not o ly happening at a tremendous rate, but it is accelerating. I just installed a 2 terabyte drive in my desktop. Just for grins, that number looks like this: 2,000,000,000,000. That is how many characters can be stored in one place that is only about 3" x 5" x 1" high. 20 years ago that much storage was beyond everyone's reach except a few governments.

His day is soon.

In Christ,

the black horse is riding now: the pale horse will follow this is the false prophet coming ,he will go after the true believers that rebel against him by refusing the number.

 

[Loloy]

If Jesus would come into our lifetime... It would be a privilege...

Wow... amazing.. This is great.... we can meet him face to face...

Jesus is my Superhero!!!... wohooo

 

[wakeup]

Nod, your jokes get you everywhere. Thats hilarious.

Sorry Wakeup, but I am gonna read into Nod's post and agree with her that its ridiculous to think we know when he is coming.

Many have tried to predict and were all wrong. Yes, the Bible tells us of signs but who really knows exaclt when that day will come? None of us.

you obviously are one of them that are fast asleep:
Jesus said to stay awake,or you will be robbed of your reward.
that would be a great loss.rev.1:3. blessed is he that readeth,and they that hear the words of this prophecy,and keep those things that are written there in: for the time is at hand. obviously not for you:
the prophesies are there,but not to be understood,no one will:so just dont worry about them prophesies. lets eat and drink for tomorow we will die.

''wakeup''.

 

[SubCruceSalus]

lol Jim Jones, anyone? Would you like the red or purple koolaid? Seriously, "wakeup", Matthew chapter 24 clearly states that no one knows the day or the hour, not even Jesus, but only the Father knows. Sure, God said there would be road signs and all, and that there would be an eventual tribulation period that would be readily recognizable, but still, no one knows the day or the hour. For you to presume that you have any sort of time-frame that is based in truth would make you a false prophet; otherwise known as a deceiver. Matthew 24:2-51 reads as follows:

1And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25Behold, I have told you before.

26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Now it mentions several times what we're to do in regards to folks who try to proclaim a certain time-frame for Jesus return; I really don't think you want to be one of those, wakeup.

 

[journey41]

lol Jim Jones, anyone? Would you like the red or purple koolaid? Seriously, "wakeup", Matthew chapter 24 clearly states that no one knows the day or the hour, not even Jesus, but only the Father knows. Sure, God said there would be road signs and all, and that there would be an eventual tribulation period that would be readily recognizable, but still, no one knows the day or the hour. For you to presume that you have any sort of time-frame that is based in truth would make you a false prophet; otherwise known as a deceiver. Matthew 24:2-51 reads as follows:

Its in the bible Sub Cruce. God gave us a big clue on how to work it out. We go by signs yes, that is obvious, We know when those certain prophesies are fulfilled how long we have left until Jesus returns. But there is a more accurate way of calculating. Not to the day or hour, but very close to the time of Christs return.

And because you or others have not picked it up yet, (from the OT) does not give you the right to call Wake-up a false prophet. You are the one lacking here in what has been revealed in the scriptures. It is so simple to work out...Such a big clue was given that can not be refuted... I personally do not think that we should tell anybody when that time is...So Wakeup, just keep it to yourself. They all have a lot to learn first. All they need to know is that the false prophet is coming soon and they can work the rest out for themselves...

We should be ready at all times anyway, for we are human, and can also die of sickness, or accident before Christs actual return. Our destiny will be sealed then.

 

[SubCruceSalus]

You can't even say that it's close; no one knows the day or the hour, therefore saying "oh yeah, it's going to be soon" is not something you can say. That passage talks about wars, and rumors of wars, and other such things, but that we're not to be troubled by it. Thank you, but I will call Wakeup a false prophet, because he acts as though he knows that it'll be sometime soon. Do I believe that we should live in a state of preparedness? absolutely, no one can take the next second for granted. I would not ever tell someone that Jesus was returning in any kind of timeframe other than to say, "in the Father's good timing".

 

[journey41]

You can't even say that it's close; no one knows the day or the hour, therefore saying "oh yeah, it's going to be soon" is not something you can say. That passage talks about wars, and rumors of wars, and other such things, but that we're not to be troubled by it. Thank you, but I will call Wakeup a false prophet, because he acts as though he knows that it'll be sometime soon. Do I believe that we should live in a state of preparedness? absolutely, no one can take the next second for granted. I would not ever tell someone that Jesus was returning in any kind of timeframe other than to say, "in the Father's good timing".

[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply SubCruce. If you look at the following verses then maybe it can enlighten you a little;

Matt 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: For all things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

This is backed up in Rev
Rev 6:3 And there went out another horse that was RED, and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

O.k. There has always been wars since the beginning, but Rev was written about 90 AD. We are talking about the signs of the last days. What came after this many years later? World War 1 & 2. Very big wars indeed. That Red horse is still riding & nations still argue and fight therefore smaller wars are continuing, & brewing...The Red horse hasn't stopped, he's still riding. So this Red horse has come already.

now for the next horse.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Mat 24:8 All these are the BEGINNING of SORROWS.

This is backed up in Rev
Rev 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a BLACK HORSE; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny, and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

O.k. if the red horse has come already, and past, and we are in the next period, the black horse , and the black horse is obviously talking about food shortages, which in turn escalates the price of food, and Matt 24 says that there will be FAMINE, & PESTILENCES & EARTHQUAKES, and all this is happening NOW and if you will turn on your t.v. you can check to see if its true, then wouldn't you say that we are in the BLACK HORSE STAGE. The black horse doesn't stop riding, he keeps going till it gets worse., and after this stage it states "THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS" then wouldn't you say that the end is close? Cause whats the next stage....THE PALE HORSE - The false prophet. TRIBULATION BROTHER.

Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall KILL you: and YE shall be HATED of all nations for MY NAMES SAKE.

Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a PALE horse: and his name that sat on him was DEATH, and HELL followed with him. And POWER was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to KILL with the sword, and with HUNGER, and with DEATH, and with the BEASTS of the earth.

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened up the fifth seal, I saw under the alter the SOULS of THEM that were SLAIN for the WORD of GOD, and for the TESTIMONY which THEY HELD.

This is the tribulation of the saints. It is at the door. You should be preparing. Put your armour on and train yourself christian soldier. Train yourself to be strong for when the day comes. Ask the Lord for the grace to give you wisdom and knowledge, so you can be a helpful servant and warn your christians brothers to be prepared and not put them to sleep. You are young and have so much to learn, and I can only say this to encourage you, for if I lied to you then you may run out of oil, for you have falsely accused a true servant of Christ for telling the truth and he/us/we can back anything up with scripture, and speak confidently concerning the truth, but not all of you can take it because of your unbelief & innability to discern a truth from a lie.

So to compare Wake-up as a Jim Jones case, in which Jones murdered his own followers and they allowed him because of LACK OF KNOWLEDGE & BLIND FAITH & HIGH REGARD FOR MAN, then you have some serious learning to do because unlike the muslems and the cults we do not murder our own but warn our brothers that WE are going to be murdered by a very wicked man, and not by our own brothers, and that it is all Gods will, so we better make sure that we are right with Christ and train ourselves to put Christ first before mother, father, child, possessions & fear because our reward awaits us and nothing compares.

Take care, God bless you and I hope you take no offence.
Regards
Journey.

 

[Loloy]

I do believe no one will know the specific day or the hour - but we will know it's season - through signs -

remember the parable of the Fig tree?

 

[journey41]

I do believe no one will know the specific day or the hour - but we will know it's season - through signs -

[/QUOTE]Yes, Loloy, Amen to that. The funny thing is that not many of us saints will be around when Christ comes, for we will be waiting to be resurrected.

 

[wakeup]

lol Jim Jones, anyone? Would you like the red or purple koolaid? Seriously, "wakeup", Matthew chapter 24 clearly states that no one knows the day or the hour, not even Jesus, but only the Father knows. Sure, God said there would be road signs and all, and that there would be an eventual tribulation period that would be readily recognizable, but still, no one knows the day or the hour. For you to presume that you have any sort of time-frame that is based in truth would make you a false prophet; otherwise known as a deceiver. Matthew 24:2-51 reads as follows:

1And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25Behold, I have told you before.

26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Now it mentions several times what we're to do in regards to folks who try to proclaim a certain time-frame for Jesus return; I really don't think you want to be one of those, wakeup.

hi s c s. you have to read scriptures very carefully:
in verse29. it says immediately after the tribulation: how immediate:?
is it one year after; one month after; is it ten yrs after? or is it one hundred years after. immediately means very soon after: but you say no one will know??
yes no one knows the----day----hour----but to know the week is possible: or the month: must stydy the prophesies; have you? you take care, and God bless.

''wakeup''.

 

[wakeup]

I do believe no one will know the specific day or the hour - but we will know it's season - through signs -

remember the parable of the Fig tree?

christ said ''immediately after the tribulation''
immediately means immediate: not one month or one year.
so we can know the week; if we know the prophesies. to say that we will never know, is mind boggling to me.

 

[thimsrebma]

you obviously are one of them that are fast asleep:
Jesus said to stay awake,or you will be robbed of your reward.
that would be a great loss.rev.1:3. blessed is he that readeth,and they that hear the words of this prophecy,and keep those things that are written there in: for the time is at hand. obviously not for you:
the prophesies are there,but not to be understood,no one will:so just dont worry about them prophesies. lets eat and drink for tomorow we will die.

''wakeup''.

I think its kind of presumptuous to call someone fast asleep because they dont agree with knowing exactly when Christ wil return.

The prophecies have not been fufilled so we cannot say he is coming in our lifetime. Even if one was to say one has been fulfilled there is no time frame for the next. We only know the order in which they will occur not how soon.

 

[wakeup]

I think its kind of presumptuous to call someone fast asleep because they dont agree with knowing exactly when Christ wil return.

The prophecies have not been fufilled so we cannot say he is coming in our lifetime. Even if one was to say one has been fulfilled there is no time frame for the next. We only know the order in which they will occur not how soon.

if you read mat.24. you might get the idea. need to read girl need to read.

 

[FSUBoy966]

People have said since like the 1500's in Europe that "the end is soon." It's impossible to figure out when the end of times is coming. Natural disasters and wars have existed for all eternity. Jesus will return when Jesus wants to return. No man will know when he does until he reveals himself. The end might come in five minutes, or in 3534586346256959750321 years. Only Jesus knows.

 

[thimsrebma]

if you read mat.24. you might get the idea. need to read girl need to read.

I do my share of reading. It actually supports my point.

Jesus says that ABCD are going to happen. But at no point does he say that A is going to take this long and then B is going to take this long, etc.

Yes we need to be vigilant, however no man knows when He is coming back, we may know it may be soon but soon but how soon is soon. Maybe in a few years or in 20 years. In the grand scheme of life 20 years is not that long so it can still be considered soon. Some people living now may not see another 20 yrs.

I am not saying that he def. will not come in my life time but at the same time I cannot conclude that he will as all prophecies before His return have not happened yet.

 

[SubCruceSalus]

Journey41, you're presuming knowledge in regards to prophecy; there have been always famine, hunger, wars, rumors of wars, etc. There have been greater natural disasters in the past than all the earthquakes and such of late, and far greater persecution of the church than what you see today. Your attempt at trying to dismiss my argument on grounds of my age are as cheap as they are infantile. My metaphor concerning Jim Jones was one that apparently went over your head, so I'll explain it to you in the simplest of terms: "Wakeup" was implying that if we didn't listen to him then we were all "asleep" and would suffer for having disregarded him. That kind of mentality is the same that was to be found in the Jim Jones cult. Now that you've had it explained to you, I would imagine you'd understand it. Now, personally addressing "wakeup": No one knows the day or the hour, scripture says that. The tribulation is going to be a long-suffered event, and not something you can see a sign for saying, "Now entering the tribulation zone". Going contrary to the scriptures is something that we're warned against, so I would call on you to repent. If Jesus knew the month or the week, then he would have said such, but did he? No! He said that only the Father knows.

 

[wakeup]

People have said since like the 1500's in Europe that "the end is soon." It's impossible to figure out when the end of times is coming. Natural disasters and wars have existed for all eternity. Jesus will return when Jesus wants to return. No man will know when he does until he reveals himself. The end might come in five minutes, or in 3534586346256959750321 years. Only Jesus knows.

has it ever occur to you that we could die anytime?
what if you die today: you open your eyes, but a 1000yrs has gone past, and there was Jesus in front of you opening your book? and you are judged.
you know where i am coming from? to those people that died 1500yrs ago; when they open their eyes, it will be the same day to them. thats why Jesus saying 2000yrs ago
the kingdom is nigh. where is it ? it is 2000yrs now, was he lying? no, he was speaking the truth. you have a nice day.

''wakeup''.