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AnandaHya

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Re: I know you wanted 4runner to answer this Zone, buuuuuut...

lil_christian said:
Well, we weren't exactly "deserving" of anything. But Jesus gave us everything we didn't deserve not because we're worthy, but because He loves us like nobody's business (I was gonna say "loves us like heck" but that didn't seem to match up too good. lol so that's the only other thing I could think of). Because He loves us, He gave us grace. And so because of that love and grace, because of Jesus, we ARE deemed worthy of getting into Heaven and...it's just indescribable. The grace that Jesus gave us, and Jesus' love toward us...it's all indescribable. It's not anything words will ever be able to describe.
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no there is nothing to describe it. Hallejuh :) Praise Jesus!
 
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Re: I know you wanted 4runner to answer this Zone, buuuuuut...

4runner said:
Jesus think you are worthy, Jesus thinks you deserve His love, Jesus think you are worthy of His Grace. He loves you and wants you to align your opinion of you with His opinion of you. Jesus thinks you are beautiful, pure, righteous, holy. He wants you to believe this of yourself.

This I am a worthless sinner, crap breaks His heart.
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HE makes us worthy. Nothing but Him. I don't make me worthy.
 
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4runner

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Re: I know you wanted 4runner to answer this Zone, buuuuuut...

lil_christian said:
HE makes us worthy. Nothing but Him. I don't make me worthy.
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No we do not make ourselves worthy we were worthy that is why Jesus died. What Jesus does is reconcile us to God, and makes us righteous.
 
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4runner

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Let me ask you this. how much is any particular partial of land worth?
 
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lil_christian said:
Without a house? Ummm...I think a couple hundred dollars an acre. I'm not sure
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It is worth whatever someone was willing to pay for it. Jesus was willing to pay His blood for you, that makes you worthy of the blood of Christ. Do not let Satan, you pastor or anyone else on this forum tell you different.
 
lil_christian

lil_christian

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4runner said:
It is worth whatever someone was willing to pay for it. Jesus was willing to pay His blood for you, that makes you worthy of the blood of Christ. Do not let Satan, you pastor or anyone else on this forum tell you different.
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They weren't, I know what they meant
 
lil_christian

lil_christian

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They didn't mean that I was worthless. They were agreeing with the fact we didn't deserve the grace that we have been given. And that Jesus gave it anyways
 
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lil_christian

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And as I said before, there was (and still is!!) a positive side to my answers.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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4runner said:
Yet I am the one that makes excuses for sin...wow you are blind

Romans 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

When will you stop making provision for your flesh?
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I am not making excuses bud! I do not go around making excuses like "I did not mean it or Satan made me do it"

Who said I made provisions for my flesh? Do you know me? You say you are not perfect, you still sin. What makes you any better than me? You think I go around living in sin and wallowing in it? If you did you woiuld be wrong. i do my best to follow after the spirit. In doing so. I do not even think of sin, And it does not come, But I would be foolish to think I am perfect. For I am not/

The difference is I do not make excuses for it/ like you do!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Re: I know you wanted 4runner to answer this Zone, buuuuuut...

lil_christian said:
HE makes us worthy. Nothing but Him. I don't make me worthy.
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Pharisees don't see this sis. They think they are worthy. That's why they will be so angry and surprised when they are found unworthy and sent to outer darkness.
 
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NoahsMom

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HE makes us worthy. Nothing but Him. I don't make me worthy. AMEN.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I am not making excuses bud! I do not go around making excuses like "I did not mean it or Satan made me do it"

Who said I made provisions for my flesh? Do you know me? You say you are not perfect, you still sin. What makes you any better than me? You think I go around living in sin and wallowing in it? If you did you woiuld be wrong. i do my best to follow after the spirit. In doing so. I do not even think of sin, And it does not come, But I would be foolish to think I am perfect. For I am not/

The difference is I do not make excuses for it/ like you do!
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Actually he's now come out and said:

4runner said:
To be honest (and have a field day) I do not remember the last time I sinned
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In his ego thread:

LINK ::: http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...uestion-any-about-my-biblical-beliefs-47.html
 
zone

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4runner said:
Yet I am the one that makes excuses for sin...wow you are blind

Romans 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

When will you stop making provision for your flesh?
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4runner.
see the part in blue?

i'm telling ya man, that's what happens.
perfectionists are the true antinomians.

i wish you could see it.

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The peril of perfectionism is that it seriously distorts the human mind. Imagine the contortions through which we must put ourselves to delude us into thinking that we have in fact achieved a state of sinlessness.

Inevitably the error of perfectionism breeds one, or usually two, deadly delusions. To convince ourselves that we have achieved sinlessness, we must either suffer from a radical overestimation of our moral performance or we must seriously underestimate the requirements of God’s law.

The irony of perfectionism is this: Though it seeks to distance itself from antinomianism, it relentlessly and inevitably comes full circle to the same error.

To believe that we are sinless we must annul the standards of God’s Law. We must reduce the level of divine righteousness to the level of our own performance. We must lie to ourselves both about the Law of God and about our own obedience. To do that requires that we quench the Spirit when He seeks to convict us of sin. Persons who do that are not so much Spirit-filled as they are Spirit-quenchers.

One of the true marks of our ongoing sanctification is the growing awareness of how far short we fall of reaching perfection. Perfectionism is really antiperfectionism in disguise. If we think we are becoming perfect, then we are far from becoming perfect.

The Heresy of Perfectionism by R.C. Sproul | Ligonier Ministries Blog
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