Same sex marriage is an abomination and if you support it you are not a christian

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Zork

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In my eyes, truth doesn't exist... and don't quote scripture at me. It won't help you in an argument with someone such as myself.

That's all I need to quote to let everyone else know, where you stand... clearly not with God.
 
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Zork

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I think it would be best if we Christians discuss topics like this with love instead of hateful rhetoric. It's better to talk to someone with love than with hate, and I feel too many of us have been doing that. Calling someone an abomination isn't the love that Jesus taught us about. You may not agree with what these people do, but they are still God's children. Dislike what they do, but do not preach hate for them, you're contradicting your beliefs. If you want to stop it, then try to save them with the love God has given you, and show that love to them. You cannot fight sin with hate, it's a trap in itself.
I don't think I've read one post on hating homosexual people, homosexuality aka the homosexual acts however... that is something has been pointed out as an admonition.

I think it's a lot of liberal propaganda... that makes people think.. speaking out against homosexuality... = hate against homosexual people. That's not true at all.

I can hate the idea of murder but I should love the person (murderer) because God said love all.

I can hate the idea of lying but I should love the person (lair) because God said love all.

I can hate the idea of homosexual acts but I should love the person (homosexual) because God said love all.

Homosexuality is sin and an abomination and I say that in love because if you love someone then you'd tell/warn them about the bad stuff in their lives.
 

lil_christian

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I think it would be best if we Christians discuss topics like this with love instead of hateful rhetoric. It's better to talk to someone with love than with hate, and I feel too many of us have been doing that. Calling someone an abomination isn't the love that Jesus taught us about. You may not agree with what these people do, but they are still God's children. Dislike what they do, but do not preach hate for them, you're contradicting your beliefs. If you want to stop it, then try to save them with the love God has given you, and show that love to them. You cannot fight sin with hate, it's a trap in itself.
We didn't call homosexuals an abomination...
 
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That's all I need to quote to let everyone else know, where you stand... clearly not with God.
I think you'd be surprised to know that the majority of the world doesn't share your faith. If you lump any one religion vs all the others, then that religion is clearly a minority. If you look only at one religion, and count one denomination against all the others, you will see it is a minority.

Whereas if you look at everyone as human beings, you'd see there is no majority, no minority, just billions of individuals, all with their own likes and dislikes, their faith or lack thereof, their lives, families, virtues. We are all human beings on this planet.
 
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then again people are killing babies daily and nobody complains and you kill one adult and your dragged off to prison, thats about the equivalent of your deduction, Ohh! thats right killing anyone is wrong!
Except of course that in most cases it isn't babies but mostly embryos (abortion before the 9th week, and 75% of abortions occur before the 10th week) and after 9 weeks it is a fetus, not a baby. Saying it is a baby is an emotional appeal, it is not a factual claim.

As for killing an adult, there are mitigating circumstances. If it's a cold-blooded premeditated murder, if it's a man seeking revenge and killing the murderer who raped and killed his family, if it's a man who unintentionally murdered someone (man shooting a robber), if it was an accident, etc etc etc. There are many cases. Morality is not black and white. Sometimes abortion is the only option (medical conditions) sometimes one should consider other options.
 
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I don't think I've read one post on hating homosexual people, homosexuality aka the homosexual acts however... that is something has been pointed out as an admonition.

I think it's a lot of liberal propaganda... that makes people think.. speaking out against homosexuality... = hate against homosexual people. That's not true at all.

I can hate the idea of murder but I should love the person (murderer) because God said love all.

I can hate the idea of lying but I should love the person (lair) because God said love all.

I can hate the idea of homosexual acts but I should love the person (homosexual) because God said love all.

Homosexuality is sin and an abomination and I say that in love because if you love someone then you'd tell/warn them about the bad stuff in their lives.
Beat the Gay Out of Your Child - YouTube
Man Tattoos Anti-Gay Bible Verse on Arm - YouTube
Put All Gays in Death Camps - YouTube
"Homosexuals Are Worthy of Death" - YouTube
Christian Warrior Defends Anti-Gay Pastor - YouTube
Pastor Wants Homosexuality Criminalized - YouTube

Now come back and tell me it's liberal propaganda.
 
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NoFallTooFar

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I am in no way supporting homosexuality, but if we're gonna bash homosexuality, shouldn't we also bash company's that make mixed fabrics, or pastors who shave their beards?
 
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camragirl73

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I can say who i vote for and why right
 
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camragirl73

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I am not going to vote at all
 

PopClick

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I am in no way supporting homosexuality, but if we're gonna bash homosexuality, shouldn't we also bash company's that make mixed fabrics, or pastors who shave their beards?
If that's your argument... then why do you think homosexual behavior is wrong, like you have said in other threads?
 

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I am in no way supporting homosexuality, but if we're gonna bash homosexuality, shouldn't we also bash company's that make mixed fabrics, or pastors who shave their beards?
I agree [though I don't believe homosexuality is a sin]. Christians who use the Bible to stop LGBT rights in the name of God... shockingly, they aren't out there protesting the existence of their local Red Lobster, even though they sell food which is clearly against the laws set forth by the Old Testament. Apparently, it's okay to use the Old Testament to hinder LGBT rights and ignore the other 600+ commandments set forth in the same books.
 
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NoFallTooFar

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If that's your argument... then why do you think homosexual behavior is wrong, like you have said in other threads?
Because I use to be gay.

But I'd never use the law against someone, because they can turn back around and point out something in my life. It's the minister of death. I wanna preach life into dead souls, not more death.
 
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NoFallTooFar

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I agree [though I don't believe homosexuality is a sin]. Christians who use the Bible to stop LGBT rights in the name of God... shockingly, they aren't out there protesting the existence of their local Red Lobster, even though they sell food which is clearly against the laws set forth by the Old Testament. Apparently, it's okay to use the Old Testament to hinder LGBT rights and ignore the other 600+ commandments set forth in the same books.
Yeah.

See, the thing is, if we break 1 commandment, then we're guilty of offending them all.
 
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Wesley

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Homosexuals have the right to marry - someone of the opposite sex, just like everybody else.
A Hobson's Choice is a denial of rights. You can clearly see that if you substitute in other abrogations on other rights --

"Dissidents have free speech -- they can say those things we approve, or they can be quiet."

why are there people on this forum (a christian forum) showing their support for same sex marriage. its wrong. [...] this is how true christians should feel in regards to this topic.
I'm not a Christian. If my support for equal rights gets me banned here, so be it.
 

PopClick

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Because I use to be gay.
But why do you feel that it was/is wrong? I'm not asking you to condemn anyone, I'm trying to understand your assertion that it's just like mixing fabrics or pastors shaving their beards.
 
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NoFallTooFar

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But why do you feel that it was/is wrong? I'm not asking you to condemn anyone, I'm trying to understand your assertion that it's just like mixing fabrics or pastors shaving their beards.
The thing is, it is just as bad. In fact. Mixing fabrics are an abomination as well. See, I was saved a for a few months before God ever led me out if the lifestyle. Why? Because we're clay in the potters hands.
 
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megaman125

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The thing is, it is just as bad. In fact. Mixing fabrics are an abomination as well. See, I was saved a for a few months before God ever led me out if the lifestyle. Why? Because we're clay in the potters hands.
No, the whole mixed fabrics thing was about not combining two different garments. This was done to mantian a state of holiness, because the Israelites were to separate themselves from other people. The state of holiness was necessary so that God could dwell with the Israelites. However, since the death and ressurrection of Jesus, we're not longer under the levitical sacrifice system. The Jews and Gentiles have become one people, united by Christ. The whole wearing mixed fabrics was a part of the old Levitical system, which is about obediance and the Israelites separating themselves and mantianing holiness so that God could dwell with them.

As for "not shaving their beard," the passage you're referring to is not really about shaving in the sense that we think of shaving today. Let me quote the passage first.

You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard.
Leviticus 19:27

The phrase "round off the hair" means to violently rip the hair out of your head. This was a ritual done by other tribes in the land as a (strange) way to worship pagan gods. I don't know of anyone who goes around violently ripping their hair out as an act of worshiping a pagan god, so I generally don't think we need to be worrying about this.

As far as homosexuality is concerned, we are called to love everyone, that includes homosexuals. Yes, homosexuality is a sin, and it's clear as day throughout the old and new testaments. I think my personal website sums up the stance of homosexuality. In my opinion, the problem in society isn't the growing community of homosexuals, or homosexual supporters, it's how we're preaching against it. Pointing fingers and saying "You're sinning and going to hell" isn't going to bring the homosexuals to repentance. Not only that, but that's an incomplete and inaccurate picture of what Christianity is all about.


Homosexuality

^This is a link to my website if anyone is interested.
 
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