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Cheers guys there was no mindless dribble in there lol usualy there is when i ask contrevercial questions but i think that worked must have scared them off lol. but ugly by that logic we shouldnt drink wine. Jesus drank wine and the bible clearly says consumption of it is fine so long as you dont go overboard obviously. Its just strange how its not like directly in there obviously God knew man would eventualy start smoking it to get high i wonder why he didnt say not to in black and white thats all but i do agree it has alot of negative effects. i wonder if God minds cancer patients smoking it or eating it. ill pray about it and let you guys know if God reveals something to me from his word. Im not a bible guru.... not yet ;D
Also. I might add that I can find nowhere in scripture that Jesus drank wine. At the marriage party He turned water into wine. Which with my post before could have been grape juice. I mean come on any bartender will tell you that after a person has had a few drinks you water it down and they will never know the difference. However, it is said that they saved the best for last. Secondly at the Lords supper it just say's He took the cup. Then He say's "I shall not drink of the fruit of the vine". Prove that Jesus drank wine as we know it.
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you don't get drunk on grape juice and are not able to tell the difference between good wine and bad wine. it says that most people serve the bad wine after the people have consumed enough of the good wine not to notice the quality, but they commented one how good tasting the wine was. there is a difference between wine and vinegar, its caused by different types of bacteria that ferment the grape juice. the comment was most likely the lack of vinegar in the wine.
The logic that the Bible doesn't forbid it specifically is faulty. Yes, Jesus drank wine, but He didn't tell people to get drunk.
The problem with weed is that even in small doses it alters the mind's ability to perceive reality and is used in many other pagan religious rituals for the express purpose to contact the "spirit world" in which people connect with demons. The Bible expressly forbids believers from using pagan practices.
Deuteronomy 18
The logic that the Bible doesn't forbid it specifically is faulty. Yes, Jesus drank wine, but He didn't tell people to get drunk.
The problem with weed is that even in small doses it alters the mind's ability to perceive reality and is used in many other pagan religious rituals for the express purpose to contact the "spirit world" in which people connect with demons. The Bible expressly forbids believers from using pagan practices.
Deuteronomy 18
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show how this is NOT derailing the topic at hand?
apologizes to the OP for the side conversation.... but here is one example:
Matthew 11:19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ But wisdom is justified by her children.”
apologizes to the OP for the side conversation.... but here is one example:
Matthew 11:19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ But wisdom is justified by her children.”
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Well, I am always ask that question. The topic is mind altering substance that is on earth and should we partake because every green herb is given to us. The grape is the fruit of a green herb. Actually, rice rolled in a grape leave with some RED WINE VINEGAR is very good had it in Egypt. That was some good stuff.
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Romans 13:13 Let us walk properly, as in the day, not in revelry and drunkenness, not in lewdness and lust, not in strife and envy.
God wants us to learn self control.
Does anyone know any scripture where it says smoking (the human inhalation of cigarettes, cigars, etc) anything like tobacco or weed is allowed in the Bible?
the only smoke I know mentioned is from incense: frankincense, mrryh, etc.
as someone mention it says EAT green herbs, not smoke them
and even that is not advisable for all green herbs after the fall from Eden because of the various poison secreted by various plants.
God wants us to learn self control.
Does anyone know any scripture where it says smoking (the human inhalation of cigarettes, cigars, etc) anything like tobacco or weed is allowed in the Bible?
the only smoke I know mentioned is from incense: frankincense, mrryh, etc.
as someone mention it says EAT green herbs, not smoke them
and even that is not advisable for all green herbs after the fall from Eden because of the various poison secreted by various plants.
And they say, They said he was a wine bibber. I can't find in the bible where smoking tobacco is wrong or weed or crack or injecting heroin. Can you? I eat Polk salad which is poisonous. but prepared right it is harmless. Anything that alters the mind
is wrong. I'm sorry that I'm picking on you to get the point across. If you can drink a mind altering beverage and remain true to God, then have at it. But, I say if you play with a snake sooner or later your'e gonna get bit. Because it'snot the partaking of it that's sin, but what we do and say after.
is wrong. I'm sorry that I'm picking on you to get the point across. If you can drink a mind altering beverage and remain true to God, then have at it. But, I say if you play with a snake sooner or later your'e gonna get bit. Because it'snot the partaking of it that's sin, but what we do and say after.
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I strongly discourage the drinking of poison, the injecting of drugs, the smoking of mind altering drugs and the handling of poisonous snakes.
as I posted before the BIBLE tells us NOT to practice the pagan things and I know of many religions that use weed as a gateway to contact the "spirits" which in truth are demons.
yes discernment is great but why tempt the Lord your God with your actions by placing yourself in such situations?
you can pick on me all you want, but you still have NOT answered my question.
I've shown where wine has been allowed, but where does it say its ok to SMOKE anything?
here is another about wine if you missed it:
1 Timothy 5:23 No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities.
now your turn, where are the scriptures about smoking anything?
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