Noah's Ark

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nonicknametouse

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This story is about a faith, endurance and perserverance. God gave Noah the exact plans to build this ark. He was very precise on the construction, what wood to use etc. Genisis 6:17. It was not too big nor too small . It was the size it needed to be to fulfill God's will at the time. The people of that time tormented Noah, however because of his faith He perservered and acomplished God's work. This was the first time rain fell so of course people were not believing him. There is nothing impossible for God to do. But sometimes it is impossible to have people like yourself understand the almighty God and His purpose. Oh, what about the covanent that God gave Noah concerning the rainbow. There really are rainbows right, so why would there not be an ark. Genisis 9:11 thru 17. It is so beautiful that God would do that. Yes it is to be taken lierally.
 
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nightcrawler

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It was quite a bit longer than 2-300 years from Creation to Christ. That answer was for ark to Babel.
 
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nonicknametouse

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My thougths are not your thougths, nor your ways my ways declares the Lord.Isaiah 55:8
 
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Abbe

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As for me, I think that the All Seeing, All Knowing, All Doing, All Mighty God can do anything he likes. If he had said to make that Ark out of paper, it would have ben just fine, as for Noah, God gave him time to bild it in, all the while Noah was telling all the na sayers what was going to happen , they did not want to here it. But God , being long suffering gave them time. There is none so blind, as those that will not see. Just my op.
 
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Ariel82

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1. the world was vastly different during the time of Noah. the natural laws were different. for example it never rained before Noah and men and animals only ate plants. it was not till after the flood that God allowed the consumption of animals. .............2. people assume we are becoming more technologically advance versus just recovering lost knowledge from before the fall of the tower of Babel.........3. If we were to try and save a copy of all animal life on Earth today, how would we go about it? what if Noah had technological and scientific/ spiritual knowledge that was even more advance than we have today? (no proof, but it makes you think) ...............Creation is in Genesis 1, Genesis 7 talks about the flood, than Babel is in Genesis 11...Moses comes after... you have Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph before Moses.............
 
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nonicknametouse

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People co-exist so why couldn't the animals that God created co-exist.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Elizabeth619 said:
Well, there was some scientist that claims there is evidence of Noah's Ark. Including evidence of a massive flood about 7,000 years ago.

Mysteries of the Bible: Proof of Noah's Ark? - Christiane Amanpour Investigates | Video - ABC News
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I have been reading a book called Earth's Catastrophic past. which was written by a scientist who deals with the earth.. He shows how the flood was not just a rain event, but a catastrophic event which sent the earth into a massive flux (the start of continental drift, the creation of mountains. the chance in atmospheric conditions) etc etc) He also shows the rock flora and experiments which scientists have been saying for years can not be done in a flood, actually could have happened. Very technical book. but if you can get by all the heavy scientific words. great read.
 
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nonicknametouse

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Why are there picnick tables on the ark?
 
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It seems to me that somebody has forgot something.
John 15:5 [SUP]5 [/SUP] I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Matthew 19:26 [SUP]26 [/SUP] But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

All you have to do is reread the story with the understanding that God is in everything he does and backs everything he commands.
 
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DannyC

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Even if you grant the illogical idea of a global flood, you have yet to answer why all the animals which diverged from one point i.e the ark found their appropriate niches in our very complicated and diverse ecology.

The ark highlights a fundamental problem of isolated areas of land and the animals ability to find that without prior knowledge or hindsight. How did the penguins for example find their niche in nature after disembarking from the ark?

Did they travel across continents and oceans to travel to the poles?

You still have alot of work ahead of you to explain any of this.
 
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Theophane

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But surely wouldnt it have just been easier to instantly strike down every bad person? He can do anything yeah? Would've saved a massive amount of time and trouble.
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The Flood and the Ark must have had some greater significance that we don't fully understand. Clearly, it was important to God that the man Noah and his family got involved. It was important that Noah build the Ark to exact specifications. God created the entire cosmos but insisted that a man build the Ark. How a flood could have killed all the marine life is beyond me, but I'm just a man. I can't explain how it all happened. I can't explain how God does anything He does.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Stephen63 said:
It seems to me that somebody has forgot something.
John 15:5 [SUP]5 [/SUP] I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Matthew 19:26 [SUP]26 [/SUP] But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

All you have to do is reread the story with the understanding that God is in everything he does and backs everything he commands.
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this would be fine, but the op has admited he is not a christian and asking questions.

thus instead of being judgmental. we could try to help him understand. so maybe he can come to Christ and fully understand.
 
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Theophane

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What if the Ark was bigger on the inside than it was on the outside? Like the TARDIS?
 
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Ariel82

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DannyC said:
You still have alot of work ahead of you to explain any of this.
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not really, you assume its our job to explain any of this..............
 
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DannyC said:
Even if you grant the illogical idea of a global flood, you have yet to answer why all the animals which diverged from one point i.e the ark found their appropriate niches in our very complicated and diverse ecology.

The ark highlights a fundamental problem of isolated areas of land and the animals ability to find that without prior knowledge or hindsight. How did the penguins for example find their niche in nature after disembarking from the ark?

Did they travel across continents and oceans to travel to the poles?

You still have alot of work ahead of you to explain any of this.
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No, Noah did not travel to the North and South Poles, neither did he travel to all five continents, America hadn't been discovered either.

However, it is all true and there is a simple explanation. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull said:

this would be fine, but the op has admited he is not a christian and asking questions.

thus instead of being judgmental. we could try to help him understand. so maybe he can come to Christ and fully understand.
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Sorry, I didn't know he was unsaved. Anyways, my comment was not directly pointing at him.......:rolleyes:
 
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I have been going through my notes. This is from someone else and I am simply repeating it. Apparently it is to do with the word ERETZ ISRAEL [simplified spelling here]. When people visit Israel they are going to "The Land of Israel" or "The Country of Israel" The land of Israel does not cover the whole globe and neither did the flood.

If we let the Bible explain itself we read in Exodus 10:5 that a plague of Locusts "covered the face of the whole earth."
Quite clearly the locusts did not cover the whole globe, they only covered the land of Egypt and then probably not all of it.

In Numbers 22:5,11 we read that after the Israelites were delivered from Egypt and settled in Canaan they "Covered the face of the earth."
This is simply their way of saying they occupied the land in which they were dwelling.

When Cain went to the Land of Nod the Bible says "Behold thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Gen 4:14) The earth for him was the place where he lived.

When the devil tempted Jesus he took him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. The kingdoms of the world were what they could see i.e. local. (Matthew 4:8)

The same idiom is used to describe the Israelite conquest of Canaan,
Deut 2:25 This day I will begin to put the dread and fear of you on the peoples who are under the whole heaven, who shall hear the report of you and shall tremble and be in anguish because of you.
Incas and Inuit weren't trembling in anguish, it was the people in the region, Canaanites Moabites and Edomites.
 
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DannyC

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Ariel82 said:
not really, you assume its our job to explain any of this..............
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If your willing to believe something without evidence, go ahead but don't try and assert it as true or even plausible.
 
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DannyC

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PS said:
No, Noah did not travel to the North and South Poles, neither did he travel to all five continents, America hadn't been discovered either.

However, it is all true and there is a simple explanation. :)
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Well I'm stuck on this, could you provide the simple explanation?
 
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