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i dunno. Therapon says the 70th week is 2520 prophetic, i.e., 2484 solar years long:
Ellis said:
Daniel 9:27 "But he (a satanic prince) will confirm a covenant with many (Jewish people) for one seven (2520 prophetic, i.e., 2484 solar years), but in the middle of that seven, he will put an end to sacrifice and offering (by making the temple mount spiritually desolate), and one who causes desolations (the satanic spirit behind Islam) will place abominations (the Dome of the Rock) on a wing of the temple, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."
do you agree with any or all of this?
Ellis said:
Daniel 9:27 "But he (a satanic prince) will confirm a covenant with many (Jewish people) for one seven (2520 prophetic, i.e., 2484 solar years), but in the middle of that seven, he will put an end to sacrifice and offering (by making the temple mount spiritually desolate), and one who causes desolations (the satanic spirit behind Islam) will place abominations (the Dome of the Rock) on a wing of the temple, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."
do you agree with any or all of this?
oh.....
The sages of the Talmud see a direct link between themselves and the Pharisees, and historians generally consider Pharisaic Judaism to be the progenitor of Rabbinic Judaism, that is normative, mainstream Judaism after the destruction of the Second Temple. All mainstream forms of Judaism today consider themselves heirs of Rabbinic Judaism and, ultimately, the Pharisees.
Pharisees - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
The sages of the Talmud see a direct link between themselves and the Pharisees, and historians generally consider Pharisaic Judaism to be the progenitor of Rabbinic Judaism, that is normative, mainstream Judaism after the destruction of the Second Temple. All mainstream forms of Judaism today consider themselves heirs of Rabbinic Judaism and, ultimately, the Pharisees.
Pharisees - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
ya....i know. it's antisemitic to quote from Sage's 'wisdom'
these are the chosen people after all....just doing what's right and good, they just haven't heard of Jesus because God decided to to mercifully blind them, not pour New Wine into them so they wouldn't explode.
it's all good.
~
Babylonian Talmud
Sanhedrin 55b
since the latter reason embraces both the reason of a stumbling block and of human degradation,1 the former reason is that of stumbling block alone, e.g. when a heathen commits bestiality!2 — No. The second reason is that of stumbling block and of degradation, but the first teaches that even if there is degradation without a stumbling block, the animal is stoned, e.g., if a Jew committed bestiality in ignorance [of the fact that it is forbidden].3
Even as R. Hamnuna propounded: What if a Jew committed bestiality in ignorance; must there have been both a stumbling block and degradation [for the animal to be stoned] and in this case there is only degradation, but no sin; or perhaps for degradation alone without there having been a stumbling block [the animal is stoned]?4 —
R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. The penalty of adultery may be incurred through her; [if a niddah] she defiles him who has connection with her, so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with gonorrhoea].5 If she married a priest, she may eat of terumah;6 If any unfit person7 has a connection with her, he disqualifies her from the priesthood8 — If any of the forbidden degrees had intercourse with her, they are executed on her account,9 but she is exempt.10 Now, 'any of the forbidden degrees' implies even a beast: in this case, there is degradation but no stumbling-block, yet it is taught that they [including a beast] are slain on her account.11 [No, this is not conclusive, as it can be argued that] since she deliberately offended there is a stumbling-block] [though she is a minor] but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon her; now, He shewed mercy to her, but not to the animal.
Raba said: Come and hear! A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife [the former having left no issue] acquires her [as wife]. But he cannot divorce her until he attains his majority.12 He is defiled through coition with a niddah,13 so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with gonorrhoea] — He disqualifies [a woman from the priesthood],14 but cannot enable a woman to eat [of terumah].15 He renders an animal unfit for the altar,16 and it is stoned on his account,17 and if he had intercourse with one of the degrees forbidden in the Torah, the latter is executed. Now here there is degradation, but no stumbling-block, yet it is taught: 'It is stoned on his account.' Since it was a deliberate offence, there is a stumbling-block, but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon him; now, He showed mercy to him, but not to the animal.
Babylonian Talmud: Sanhedrin 55 < click
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MISHNAH. WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN47 HAS HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH48 A LITTLE GIRL,49 OR WHEN A SMALL BOY50 HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-UP WOMAN, OR [WHEN A GIRL WAS ACCIDENTALLY] INJURED BY A PIECE OF WOOD51 — [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ]; SO ACCORDING TO52 R. MEIR. BUT THE SAGES SAY: A GIRL WHO WAS INJURED ACCIDENTALLY BY A PIECE OF WOOD — HER KETHUBAH IS A MANEH. A VIRGIN, WHO WAS A WIDOW, A DIVORCEE, OR A HALUZAH FROM MARRIAGE53 — HER54 KETHUBAH IS A MANEH.55
4 If they had sexual intercourse before they were three years and one day old the hymen would grow again, and they would be virgins. V. 9a and 11b and cf. Nid. 44b and 45a.
49 Less than three years old.
50 Less than nine years of age.
51 Lit., 'One who was injured by wood', as a result of which she injured the hymen.
Raba said, It means5 this: When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this,6 it is as if one puts the finger into the eye;7 but when a small boy has intercourse with a grown-up woman he makes her as 'a girl who is injured by a piece of wood,' and [with regard to the case of] 'a girl injured by a piece of wood,' itself, there is the difference of opinion between R. Meir and the Sages.
Babylonian Talmud: Kethuboth 11 > click
.......
Raba said: For what purpose did the All Merciful write 'carnally' in connection with the designated bondmaid,14 a married woman,15 and a sotah?16 That in connection with the designated bondmaid [is required] as has just been explained.17 That in connection with a married woman excludes intercourse with a relaxed membrum.18 This is a satisfactory interpretation in accordance with the view of him who maintains that if one cohabited with forbidden relatives with relaxed membrum he is exonerated;19 what, however, can be said, according to him who maintains [that for such an act one is] guilty? — The exclusion is rather that of intercourse with a dead woman.20
Since it might have been assumed that, as [a wife], even after her death, is described as his kin,21 one should be guilty for [intercourse with] her [as for that] with a married woman, hence we were taught [that one is exonerated]. What was the object of that22 of the sotah? — Such as was taught: Carnally22 excludes [the case where the husband's warning was] concerning something else. What is meant by 'something else'? R. Shesheth replied: The exclusion is the case where he warned her concerning unnatural intercourse
Babylonian Talmud: Yebamoth 55 < click
these are the chosen people after all....just doing what's right and good, they just haven't heard of Jesus because God decided to to mercifully blind them, not pour New Wine into them so they wouldn't explode.
it's all good.
~
Babylonian Talmud
Sanhedrin 55b
since the latter reason embraces both the reason of a stumbling block and of human degradation,1 the former reason is that of stumbling block alone, e.g. when a heathen commits bestiality!2 — No. The second reason is that of stumbling block and of degradation, but the first teaches that even if there is degradation without a stumbling block, the animal is stoned, e.g., if a Jew committed bestiality in ignorance [of the fact that it is forbidden].3
Even as R. Hamnuna propounded: What if a Jew committed bestiality in ignorance; must there have been both a stumbling block and degradation [for the animal to be stoned] and in this case there is only degradation, but no sin; or perhaps for degradation alone without there having been a stumbling block [the animal is stoned]?4 —
R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. The penalty of adultery may be incurred through her; [if a niddah] she defiles him who has connection with her, so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with gonorrhoea].5 If she married a priest, she may eat of terumah;6 If any unfit person7 has a connection with her, he disqualifies her from the priesthood8 — If any of the forbidden degrees had intercourse with her, they are executed on her account,9 but she is exempt.10 Now, 'any of the forbidden degrees' implies even a beast: in this case, there is degradation but no stumbling-block, yet it is taught that they [including a beast] are slain on her account.11 [No, this is not conclusive, as it can be argued that] since she deliberately offended there is a stumbling-block] [though she is a minor] but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon her; now, He shewed mercy to her, but not to the animal.
Raba said: Come and hear! A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife [the former having left no issue] acquires her [as wife]. But he cannot divorce her until he attains his majority.12 He is defiled through coition with a niddah,13 so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon [a person afflicted with gonorrhoea] — He disqualifies [a woman from the priesthood],14 but cannot enable a woman to eat [of terumah].15 He renders an animal unfit for the altar,16 and it is stoned on his account,17 and if he had intercourse with one of the degrees forbidden in the Torah, the latter is executed. Now here there is degradation, but no stumbling-block, yet it is taught: 'It is stoned on his account.' Since it was a deliberate offence, there is a stumbling-block, but the All-Merciful One had mercy upon him; now, He showed mercy to him, but not to the animal.
Babylonian Talmud: Sanhedrin 55 < click
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MISHNAH. WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN47 HAS HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH48 A LITTLE GIRL,49 OR WHEN A SMALL BOY50 HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-UP WOMAN, OR [WHEN A GIRL WAS ACCIDENTALLY] INJURED BY A PIECE OF WOOD51 — [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ]; SO ACCORDING TO52 R. MEIR. BUT THE SAGES SAY: A GIRL WHO WAS INJURED ACCIDENTALLY BY A PIECE OF WOOD — HER KETHUBAH IS A MANEH. A VIRGIN, WHO WAS A WIDOW, A DIVORCEE, OR A HALUZAH FROM MARRIAGE53 — HER54 KETHUBAH IS A MANEH.55
4 If they had sexual intercourse before they were three years and one day old the hymen would grow again, and they would be virgins. V. 9a and 11b and cf. Nid. 44b and 45a.
49 Less than three years old.
50 Less than nine years of age.
51 Lit., 'One who was injured by wood', as a result of which she injured the hymen.
Raba said, It means5 this: When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this,6 it is as if one puts the finger into the eye;7 but when a small boy has intercourse with a grown-up woman he makes her as 'a girl who is injured by a piece of wood,' and [with regard to the case of] 'a girl injured by a piece of wood,' itself, there is the difference of opinion between R. Meir and the Sages.
Babylonian Talmud: Kethuboth 11 > click
.......
Raba said: For what purpose did the All Merciful write 'carnally' in connection with the designated bondmaid,14 a married woman,15 and a sotah?16 That in connection with the designated bondmaid [is required] as has just been explained.17 That in connection with a married woman excludes intercourse with a relaxed membrum.18 This is a satisfactory interpretation in accordance with the view of him who maintains that if one cohabited with forbidden relatives with relaxed membrum he is exonerated;19 what, however, can be said, according to him who maintains [that for such an act one is] guilty? — The exclusion is rather that of intercourse with a dead woman.20
Since it might have been assumed that, as [a wife], even after her death, is described as his kin,21 one should be guilty for [intercourse with] her [as for that] with a married woman, hence we were taught [that one is exonerated]. What was the object of that22 of the sotah? — Such as was taught: Carnally22 excludes [the case where the husband's warning was] concerning something else. What is meant by 'something else'? R. Shesheth replied: The exclusion is the case where he warned her concerning unnatural intercourse
Babylonian Talmud: Yebamoth 55 < click
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The sages of the Talmud see a direct link between themselves and the Pharisees, and historians generally consider Pharisaic Judaism to be the progenitor of Rabbinic Judaism, that is normative, mainstream Judaism after the destruction of the Second Temple.
All mainstream forms of Judaism today consider themselves heirs of Rabbinic Judaism and, ultimately, the Pharisees.
Pharisees - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
oh zone you're such a conspiracy theorist.
why can't you just shut up and bless Israel.
we ought to be standing shoulder to shoulder with Our Brothers, The Pharisees, ellis and doulos say.
Jesus doesn't matter, it's the heart God sees.
but:
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
maybe that's why the NEW heart is needed.
which comes from the Gospel.
which maybe we should be ashamed of.
because we don't want to upset anyone.
and we hate muslims
All mainstream forms of Judaism today consider themselves heirs of Rabbinic Judaism and, ultimately, the Pharisees.
Pharisees - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
oh zone you're such a conspiracy theorist.
why can't you just shut up and bless Israel.
we ought to be standing shoulder to shoulder with Our Brothers, The Pharisees, ellis and doulos say.
Jesus doesn't matter, it's the heart God sees.
but:
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
maybe that's why the NEW heart is needed.
which comes from the Gospel.
which maybe we should be ashamed of.
because we don't want to upset anyone.
and we hate muslims
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Let's see.
As I mentioned in the post in the other thread, http://christianchat.com/christian-...rgentina-iran-bombing-probe-4.html#post965518 it only recently occurred to me to check your profile:
I found:
"Spiritual Status:
not Christian
When saved:
Oct 2000
Country Flag/Nationality:
Australia
Country (Location):
Malaysia
Favorite Bible Verse:
The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don't follow their example. For they don't practice what they teach."
Taqiyyah is another name for Islamic subterfuge. Engaging in obfuscating and half-truths and omissions to advance false impressions to fool people.
For example, based on my answers to you in this forum, were you under the impression that I thought you were a Christian?
Have you told any Christians you were arguing with that you were not a Christian? It would make a big difference in how we exchange with you:
1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
Please don't be discouraged by that verse because we can assure you that if you: Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
1Jo 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
If you didn't believe I was deceived that way, then why didn't you simply answer my questions, and deny that you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and that you reject His crucifixion and resurrection from the dead?
Even while you were yourself seem deceived about the concept - either that or lying about lying - you were engaging in taqiyyah. It wouldn't be the first time I've encountered that as I am fairly accustomed to chatting with Muslims. Perhaps you could understand it better as "dissimulation". Or engaging in half-truths, or intentional omissions to create false impressions.
Taqiyya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Comparative Index to Islam : TAQIYA; TAQIYYA; TAQIYYAH
I'm not saying you are a Muslim, but since your profile status is "not Christian" yet "When saved: Oct 2000" it would help the folks in this forum respond to you if you are a Muslim. Tailor our messages to you.
Do you believe the one true God of the scriptures - YHWH - would need His people to engage in dissimulation for Him?
Do you think Jesus - who IS truth - would need His followers to engage in dissimulation for Him?
If Christians knew had known you weren't a Christian, it would also be easier for us to understand, your rabid support for the purple "team".
So you can forget questions 1, 2 and 3 of the prior post as the answer is obviously that you do not confess that Jesus is the Son of God nor proclaim His crucifixion, death and resurrection from the dead, let alone pray in Jesus' name.
However I believe it would help us all - including yourself - if you answer as to whether you believe Muhammad was a false prophet.
As I mentioned in the post in the other thread, http://christianchat.com/christian-...rgentina-iran-bombing-probe-4.html#post965518 it only recently occurred to me to check your profile:
I found:
"Spiritual Status:
not Christian
When saved:
Oct 2000
Country Flag/Nationality:
Australia
Country (Location):
Malaysia
Favorite Bible Verse:
The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don't follow their example. For they don't practice what they teach."
Taqiyyah is another name for Islamic subterfuge. Engaging in obfuscating and half-truths and omissions to advance false impressions to fool people.
For example, based on my answers to you in this forum, were you under the impression that I thought you were a Christian?
Have you told any Christians you were arguing with that you were not a Christian? It would make a big difference in how we exchange with you:
1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
Please don't be discouraged by that verse because we can assure you that if you: Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
1Jo 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
If you didn't believe I was deceived that way, then why didn't you simply answer my questions, and deny that you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and that you reject His crucifixion and resurrection from the dead?
Even while you were yourself seem deceived about the concept - either that or lying about lying - you were engaging in taqiyyah. It wouldn't be the first time I've encountered that as I am fairly accustomed to chatting with Muslims. Perhaps you could understand it better as "dissimulation". Or engaging in half-truths, or intentional omissions to create false impressions.
Taqiyya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Comparative Index to Islam : TAQIYA; TAQIYYA; TAQIYYAH
I'm not saying you are a Muslim, but since your profile status is "not Christian" yet "When saved: Oct 2000" it would help the folks in this forum respond to you if you are a Muslim. Tailor our messages to you.
Do you believe the one true God of the scriptures - YHWH - would need His people to engage in dissimulation for Him?
Do you think Jesus - who IS truth - would need His followers to engage in dissimulation for Him?
If Christians knew had known you weren't a Christian, it would also be easier for us to understand, your rabid support for the purple "team".
So you can forget questions 1, 2 and 3 of the prior post as the answer is obviously that you do not confess that Jesus is the Son of God nor proclaim His crucifixion, death and resurrection from the dead, let alone pray in Jesus' name.
However I believe it would help us all - including yourself - if you answer as to whether you believe Muhammad was a false prophet.
I am not a Christian as it states in my profile. I am a Muslim. While you think I engage in the Shia belief of Taqiyyah it is pointless for me to debate. I'll spend time answering your misconceptions but you will just dismiss it. You will feel no need to prove me wrong. It is a dishonest and lazy position to take. That's life I guess.
Same old stuff.
going on for 2000 years now.
people want us to think this is some new thing going on
........
ya.....tweaking previously glaring false doctrine, trying to let it slide by.
just like i said it would go. it's always the same.
people never admit they were wrong.
israel was never in love with babylon we heard.
she just roamed around being persecuted by roman catholics and protestants.
amillennialism is the proof.
she never played the harlot we heard...she played with the harlot.
Jerusalem wasn't Mystery Babylon The Great - Rome is, we heard.
nobody ever suffered in the history of the world that God cares about.
except the Pharisees.
God owes the Pharisees something we heard.
what we're not sure.
Land i think.
though i don't know why we ever heard anything like that.
it was never said by Jesus. ever.
Matthew 21
The Parable of the Tenants
33“Hear another parable. There was a master of a house who planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a winepress in it and built a tower and leased it to tenants, and went into another country. 34When the season for fruit drew near, he sent his servantsc to the tenants to get his fruit. 35And the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. 36Again he sent other servants, more than the first. And they did the same to them. 37Finally he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’ 39And they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. 40When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” 41They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”
42Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
“‘The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;d
this was the Lord’s doing,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’?
43Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. 44And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”e
45When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. 46And although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet.
going on for 2000 years now.
people want us to think this is some new thing going on
........
ya.....tweaking previously glaring false doctrine, trying to let it slide by.
just like i said it would go. it's always the same.
people never admit they were wrong.
israel was never in love with babylon we heard.
she just roamed around being persecuted by roman catholics and protestants.
amillennialism is the proof.
she never played the harlot we heard...she played with the harlot.
Jerusalem wasn't Mystery Babylon The Great - Rome is, we heard.
nobody ever suffered in the history of the world that God cares about.
except the Pharisees.
God owes the Pharisees something we heard.
what we're not sure.
Land i think.
though i don't know why we ever heard anything like that.
it was never said by Jesus. ever.
Matthew 21
The Parable of the Tenants
33“Hear another parable. There was a master of a house who planted a vineyard and put a fence around it and dug a winepress in it and built a tower and leased it to tenants, and went into another country. 34When the season for fruit drew near, he sent his servantsc to the tenants to get his fruit. 35And the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. 36Again he sent other servants, more than the first. And they did the same to them. 37Finally he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’ 39And they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. 40When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” 41They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”
42Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
“‘The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;d
this was the Lord’s doing,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’?
43Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. 44And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”e
45When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. 46And although they were seeking to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because they held him to be a prophet.
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C
Repect Israel, for the Lord considers him our stubborn first born brother while we are the adopted. We both are His, is not God still God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob? Then He didn't opt Israel forever just because they haven't met the Hamasiach or also known as Christ. They won't be saved inless they convert with humble hearts but that doesn't mean God has forgotten them. Did not Jesus receive the title "King of the Jew"? Then disrespecting them is disrespecting the one incharge of them even though they are lost. Our job is to try bringing them to the faith not reject them.
C
Abiding, many people hold to it that God of today's Jews is completely different from our God due to the fact they hold traditions, practices, and doctrines that contradict the bible. But do we fail to realize that back in Jesus' time that the religious teachers taught the same things and Jesus didn't say they worship a different God, He tried correcting them in their corrupted hearts. What about back in Judges when Israel followed other pagan gods, God didn't change even though they practice indulging rituals. Or back in egypt when they made the exodus out into the dessert when they worship the calf they made, God didn't change. Despite what they follow God makes it known that He is still their God. Abiding I'm just pointing that out to those who speak against the people and those who speak again God.
A
I see your point, but remember Jesus told them their father was the devil. And if you remember right
the city and the sanctuary was destroyed, just like the ground that swollowed them in the wilderness,
or the other times they were destroyed or carried off in judgement...etc etc.
We dont tell smooth words and flatteries like the old testament false prophets. We dont take sides
with the synogogue of Satan, or any false jew or false nation.
Neither do we put up with a false gospel in the church that says we dont preach Christ crucified
to the Jew first and also to the greek. Read Romans 9 a few times when you have the chance make note
of verses 6-8. And also romans 2:28.
It may appear something is going wrong here but it may not be what it seems.
Most of those who may seem to be dissing on Israel are really not but simply
warring against false teachings that actually cause jews to not hear the gospel
A
Yes i understand the media thing, i know who owns them and their bent.
In my other house i had a sauna and about 30 years ago i bought a koran
and two best seller books written by Muslims to get a look for my own, about an hour
a nite while taking my saunna. Yes the glue and pages sorta fell apart but i did
what i consider a pretty good looky and stayed as objective as i could to see what they see.
Since i knew whatever i bought in the Christian bookstores would be propaganda.(about Islam)
Id agree the religion is pretty facinating especially the mystical side.
But it didnt do anything for me. Just informed me. But it wasnt the first religion i studied either.
I kept up till i saw how they all had similiarities and common roots.
But im afraid they all stood out and cant come close to who i put my Faith in, even tho i know
there is a power behind them all. ty for answering
In my other house i had a sauna and about 30 years ago i bought a koran
and two best seller books written by Muslims to get a look for my own, about an hour
a nite while taking my saunna. Yes the glue and pages sorta fell apart but i did
what i consider a pretty good looky and stayed as objective as i could to see what they see.
Since i knew whatever i bought in the Christian bookstores would be propaganda.(about Islam)
Id agree the religion is pretty facinating especially the mystical side.
But it didnt do anything for me. Just informed me. But it wasnt the first religion i studied either.
I kept up till i saw how they all had similiarities and common roots.
But im afraid they all stood out and cant come close to who i put my Faith in, even tho i know
there is a power behind them all. ty for answering
Let's see what the Jews really think of Christians (From the Talmud)
CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
From what has been shown thus far, it is clear that, according to the teaching of the Talmud, Christians are idolaters and hateful to Jews. As a consequence, every Jew who wishes to please God has a duty to observe all the precepts which were given to the Fathers of their race when they lived in the Holy Land concerning the idolatrous gentiles, both those who lived amongst them and those in nearby countries.
A Jew is therefore required to (1) To avoid Christians; (2) To do all he can to exterminate them.
[h=4]CHRISTIANS MUST BE EXTERMINATED[/h]The followers of "that man," whose name is taken by the Jews to mean "May his name and memory be blotted out," are not otherwise to be regarded than as people whom it would be good to get rid of. They are called Romans and tyrants who hold captive the children of Israel, and by their destruction the Jews would be freed from this Fourth Captivity. Every Jew is therefore bound to do all he can to destroy that impious kingdom of the Edomites (Rome) which rules the whole world. Since, however, it is not always and everywhere possible to effect this extermination of Christians, the Talmud orders that they should be attacked at least indirectly, namely: by injuring them in every possible way, and by thus lessening their power, help towards their ultimate destruction. Wherever it is possible a Jew should kill Christians, and do so without mercy.
Talmud Unmasked Part Two
HMM Sound familiar?
CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
From what has been shown thus far, it is clear that, according to the teaching of the Talmud, Christians are idolaters and hateful to Jews. As a consequence, every Jew who wishes to please God has a duty to observe all the precepts which were given to the Fathers of their race when they lived in the Holy Land concerning the idolatrous gentiles, both those who lived amongst them and those in nearby countries.
A Jew is therefore required to (1) To avoid Christians; (2) To do all he can to exterminate them.
[h=4]CHRISTIANS MUST BE EXTERMINATED[/h]The followers of "that man," whose name is taken by the Jews to mean "May his name and memory be blotted out," are not otherwise to be regarded than as people whom it would be good to get rid of. They are called Romans and tyrants who hold captive the children of Israel, and by their destruction the Jews would be freed from this Fourth Captivity. Every Jew is therefore bound to do all he can to destroy that impious kingdom of the Edomites (Rome) which rules the whole world. Since, however, it is not always and everywhere possible to effect this extermination of Christians, the Talmud orders that they should be attacked at least indirectly, namely: by injuring them in every possible way, and by thus lessening their power, help towards their ultimate destruction. Wherever it is possible a Jew should kill Christians, and do so without mercy.
Talmud Unmasked Part Two
HMM Sound familiar?