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considering the amount of time we spend discussing scriptures just on cc and then add the time spent at church, prayer, private Bible study....... I think most would average more than three hours a day.....
 
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"The rebellion to God must cease BEFORE forgiveness can be granted" are you kidding me!!! Where is that in the Bible? You are preaching a false gospel, your preaching before you can get saved you have to stop your evil works!! What of Paul, he was on his way to kill Christians when Jesus revealed Himself, David was a murderer and an adulteries, yet God called him "a man after my own heart "Moses had anger issues and killed a man yet God showed him His glory, Abraham was an idol worshipper and lied about his wife, and God called him His friend, after salvation the Holy spirit convicts us of our sin, not before! Your message is false
No I am not kidding.

What do you think this means?

Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

Has God changed? You must think He has.

Jer 26:13 Therefore now amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you.



It is sin which separates someone from God. There can be no forgiveness and communion with God whilst in a state of rebellion.

Isa 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.


What do you do with those scriptures above Carey? Do you just ignore them or do you someone think they don't apply any more?

What about Nineveh?

Jon 3:6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
Jon 3:7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
Jon 3:8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
Jon 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Nineveh forsook their rebellion and Jesus even used Nineveh as an example of repentance.

Mat_12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

The greater than Jonah was Jesus and Jesus preached repentance. Does not the repentance message of Jesus include the forsaking of rebellion?

Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Is this post too long yet? Have I twisted the Bible yet?

Am I telling you the truth?

In the parable of the Prodigal Son the son left the pig pen BEFORE mercy was granted.

Luk 15:17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
Luk 15:18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
Luk 15:19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
Luk 15:20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
Luk 15:21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.
Luk 15:22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:

The context of that parable is repentance.

Luk 15:10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.



Do you still say...

The rebellion to God must cease BEFORE forgiveness can be granted" are you kidding me!!! Where is that in the Bible? You are preaching a false gospel, your preaching before you can get saved you have to stop your evil works!!
You are not a Christian if you believe that. You might "profess" Christ and call Him "Lord" but that does not make you a Christian. A Christian is this...

1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

If you claim to know Him but you disobey Him then you are a liar according to John.





This false gospel in the churches has fooled so many people to such an extent that they plainly deny what the Bible plainly teaches. If you tell someone that they have to do this...

Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

... they will throw 1Joh 1:8 in your face and call you a liar.

1Joh 1:8 is in the context of Pro 28:13 and the Prodigal Son for it is a repentance verse by which one forsakes their wickedness in order to walk in the light. The blood of Jesus Christ only cleanses those who WALK IN THE LIGHT.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


1Joh 1:8 has NOTHING to do with a life on ongoing sinfulness. It is purely satanic to twist the scriptures in order to uphold being able to sin and still enter the kingdom. Satan deceived Eve with YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE.

You Carey are deceived and you need to wake up before it is too late.







The question I like to pose to everyone else is why do most of you you coddle people in their sins? Somehow you think it is loving to tell people "it is ok, God loves you and you are already forgiven." How can you all be so foolish to believe such nonsense?

Stop believing your false teachers and start believing the Bible!

If you sin you are of the devil and I am speaking of WILLFUL SIN which is rebellion. I am not speaking of things we do in ignorance which are not proper that we correct as they are revealed to us. STOP lumping all sin into one bucket.

Rebellion to God WILL SEND YOU TO HELL!
 
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WE come to give you not what you want to hear, but what God wants you to hear and hopefully obey!

Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you and you did not believe(obey and follow me) The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness of Me.
Joh 10:26 But you did not believe (obey and follow me) because you are not of My sheep. As I said to you,
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me(obey me)
Joh 10:28 And I give to them eternal life, and they shall never ever perish, and not anyone shall pluck them out of My hand.

Jesus paid a high price to set you free from the bondages of sin! Are you willing to believe this, and do your part through repentance and faith proven by deeds!
 
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What of the sin in your heart arrogance and pride
Pride comes before the fall God despises an arrogant heart! But you claim you don't have to worry about the sins in the heart only the outward one's, is this not picking and choosing what you follow in God's word, clean the inside first, then the outward sins will follow, but how does this happen? ONLY THROUGH JESUS, He wants you to come as you are, you can't fix yourself first then come to Him, that is legalism
 
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how is reformed theology a heresy?
Reformed Theology can basically be summed up in the TULIP of Calvinism.

T Total Depravity

U Unconditional Election

L Limited Atonement

I Irresistible Grace

P Perseverance of the Saints



Total Depravity is basically summed up with...

I. Our first parents, being seduced by the subtilty and temptations of Satan, sinned, in eating the forbidden fruit.[1] This their sin, God was pleased, according to His wise and holy counsel, to permit, having purposed to order it to His own glory.[2]

II. By this sin they fell from their original righteousness and communion, with God,[3] and so became dead in sin,[4] and wholly defiled in all the parts and faculties of soul and body.[5]

III. They being the root of all mankind, the guilt of this sin was imputed;[6] and the same death in sin, and corrupted nature, conveyed to all their posterity descending from them by ordinary generation.[7]

IV. From this original corruption, whereby we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good,[8] and wholly inclined to all evil,[9] do proceed all actual transgressions.[10]

V. This corruption of nature, during this life, does remain in those that are regenerated;[11] and although it be, through Christ, pardoned, and mortified; yet both itself, and all the motions thereof, are truly and properly sin.[12]

VI. Every sin, both original and actual, being a transgression of the righteous law of God, and contrary thereunto,[13] does in its own nature, bring guilt upon the sinner,[14] whereby he is bound over to the wrath of God,[15] and curse of the law,[16] and so made subject to death,[17] with all miseries spiritual,[18] temporal,[19] and eternal.[20]
Article 6 Westminster Confession of Faith
Westminster Confession of Faith

Total depravity teaches that the reason people sin is because they were BORN SINNERS and are thus DISABLED from making the virtuous choice. Thus sin is not a criminal action due to an exercise of free agency in CHOOSING to do wrong, rather it is a SYMPTOM of a birth state.

Total Depravity COMPLETELY REDEFINES REPENTANCE from being "the change of mind that produces the forsaking of sin" to a "confession of sinfulness." Thus under Reformed Theology one approaches God STILL IN REBELLION.

Total Depravity also teaches that a regenerated Christian exists in an ongoing state of sinfulness and thus is a denial of the possibility of heart purity in this life. This is why Reformed teachers TWIST the Scriptures and teach that passages like Romans 7:14-25, 1Joh 1:8, 1Tim 1:15, Isa 64:6, etc. support an ongoing state of wickedness/sinfulness in a Christian. The doctrine of Total Depravity infiltrated and found wide acceptance in Christian orthodoxy through the prolific influence of Augustine in the Fourth Century. Reformed theologians like Martin Luther and John Calvin held Augustine in very high regard and used his material prolifically in formulating their theologies.

Total Depravity is an extremely dangerous teaching
for it redefines the nature of man and thus redefines the entire Gospel message by redefining repentance, faith, grace, salvation and sin.



Unconditional Election is a symptom of the doctrine of Total Depravity. Due to the doctrine of Total Depravity teaching that man is DISABLED from the virtuous choice man therefore cannot seek God unless God Irresistibly Draws him. Thus those who are granted Irresistible Grace are Unconditionally Elected for there is NO CONDITION that a man can meet to merit election. Thus the Reformed doctrine of Predestination teaches that God unconditionally picks those who are to be saved and then draws them with irresistible grace. This doctrine also has its root in the writings of Augustine.

The Limited Atonement teaches that Jesus only died for the elect and in principle this is due to Penal Substitution theology. The Penal Substitution view of the atonement was invented by Reformers who took that Satisfaction view of Anselm (Satisfaction theory of atonement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and added a Penal aspect to it. The Anselmian view teaches that Christ died to satisfy divine justice in order that God could forgive sin without casting dispersion on His justice. The Moral Government view of people like Charles Finney is rooted in the Anselmian view.

The Reformers (many of who were lawyers) took the Satisfaction Model and added an aspect of judicial punishment to it and thus taught that Jesus literally bore the full wrath of God as a substitute for the sinner. This is where the phrase, "Jesus paid for your sins" comes from. The Bible does not actually teach that "Jesus paid for your sins," instead it teaches that "we were bought with a price" and the context of that is "ransom" but that is another subject.

If Jesus literally was punished for sins as a substitute it necessitates that punishment cannot be due for those sins anymore (hence unconditional eternal security or "once saved always saved") thus there is no possible way that Jesus could have bore the wrath as a substitute for those who are lost. To imply that Jesus died for those who are to perish would imply double jeopardy or the same sins being punished twice thus Reformed doctrine teaches that Jesus ONLY died for the elect hence the Limited Atonement.

I already discussed Irresistible Grace so I'll move onto Perseverance of the Saints. Perseverance of the Saints is the teaching that due to God irresistibly drawing the unconditioned elect they will by necessity persevere in the faith.



The whole premise of Reformed Theology is established on a perverted view of the Sovereignty of God. In their minds the sovereignty of God negates the free agency of man. The truth is that God is the sovereign judge who has a sovereign standard but He has granted all men the free gift of free moral agency. Thus we can CHOOSE whom we will serve. We can resist the light of God and walk our own way and become enslaved to our base desires, or we can yield to the light of God and walk in His Spirit.

Reformed Theology consists of layer upon layer of error. Examining it is like peeling an onion, in the middle of the onion is the doctrine of Total Depravity which teaches that man is unable to make the choice to serve God. This inability has to be offset by the grace of God before an individual can turn to God. This is why they preach a SAVED IN SINS message.

The Bible teaches that the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men teaching them how they should go (Tit 2:11-12). Men have the choice as to whether to submit to God or to rebel against God. Jesus Christ is the light that lights all men who come into the world (Joh 1:9). There is no such thing as inability and there is no such thing as being born in a state of total depravity. Men can become totally depraved by willfully suppressing the truth in unrighteousness whereby God will give them over to a reprobate mind (Rom 1:20-32) but men are not born that way.



Reformed theology is Satanic to the core because it perverts the method by which sinners can approach God to be reconciled. Reformed theology perverts repentance and faith at the fundamental level whereby a sinner is convinced that they cannot forsake their sin and that they can be reconciled to God IN their sin. Thus they come to a false notion of salvation (based off thinking they have been cloaked by the imputed righteous of Christ and that Jesus paid their fine) while in reality they remain dead in their sins for they are still in rebellion to God.

This false notion of salvation inoculates them very effectually against the real truth and thus the mind becomes firmly closed to the real truth of God. You'll clearly see this evidenced on these forums by many people who refuse to acknowledge certain passages in the Scripture which completely refute their position.
 
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What of the sin in your heart arrogance and pride
Pride comes before the fall God despises an arrogant heart! But you claim you don't have to worry about the sins in the heart only the outward one's, is this not picking and choosing what you follow in God's word, clean the inside first, then the outward sins will follow, but how does this happen? ONLY THROUGH JESUS, He wants you to come as you are, you can't fix yourself first then come to Him, that is legalism
Did you know that the Pharisees ignored what Jesus taught and would make accusations against Him that He was a sinner?

That is what you are doing. You cannot support your religious dogma with Scripture. You might try to pull a verse out context but I can show the context and clearly show your position as fallacious. Thus all you are left with is rhetoric and accusations.

I have never claimed that you don't have to worry about the sins in the heart. You are clutching at straws. PURE MEANS PURE.

HEART PURITY it the theme of the Bible. If you read my material you will find PROLIFIC references to inward purity. In fact inward purity is my main focus. Inward purity is only achieved via abiding in Christ having been cleansed of all sin by the blood.

Forsaking rebellion to God is not fixing yourself. God fixes you! Forsaking rebellion to God is a CONDITION that must be met BEFORE God will fix you. This is why James wrote this...

Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

You CANNOT receive with meekness the implanted word which saves the soul unless you FIRST lay aside all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness.

You have denied that principle. You claim that you approach God in your filth and rebellion and then wait for Him to clean you up. I am sorry but it does not work that way. God will not override your free will. You must be WILLING TO YIELD before God will cleanse you of unrighteousness.

God is the author of the salvation of those whom obey Him. The disobedient will perish in their sins and unfortunately many of the disobedient have been deceived by Satan that they are in fact saved.

Don't be one of them!

We live in a time of full blown apostasy. The Bible warns of it and it ought to be taken very seriously. This is not a game for your soul is of great value. God does not want you to perish but if you persist in your rebellion you will perish.

Forsake your sin and turn to God. He WILL have mercy on you and raise you up to newness of life where you will MANIFEST the fruit of inward purity.
 

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I thought this thread, from the title, would be a great learning experience. I am disappointed. It seems to me that those who just want to find what is wrong often use sarcasm instead of reason. And it gets so far off in never never land of things that don't apply at times.

The church DOES need to learn and follow purity. A church sponsored ham dinner making fun of the way God taught before Christ lived as a man through the symbolism of pigs who were scavengers in former days and an easter egg hunt is not going to cut it to celebrate Christ freeing us from bondage of sin. For instance. An argument over timing for when we are to look for purity in our lives is not teaching us about purity. This is not a question for evangelism, but for those born again with the Holy Spirit.

I can just hear the sarcasm over the pigs!! And can name where the sarcasm will come from.

It also isn't going to result in purity if we close our minds to one scripture and elevate another.
Yes RedTent it is all things that we can learn from whether posted in truth or not for God by belief who through the Holy Ghost will always seperate truth from error, because that is where truth is at in you by the power of God and when seperating it just seperate it and thank God for this in all things Thank God
 

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Amen. Hallelujah! We can live righteously through the power of God. :)
Yes and only by his powerthat he showed us all first by the death and then the resurrection which is for each of us that beleive. we recieve and then do accordingly in thankfullness
 
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If pure means pure, are you pure? I think not. Only one has ever been pure and that is Jesus!
 

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If pure means pure, are you pure? I think not. Only one has ever been pure and that is Jesus!
Just adding to your post that I 100% agree with
And by him he has made the believers pure through him and we are a new rasied in the power of God to a new life serving in the Spirit of God,
Saved by
1 Timothy 6:21Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
2 Timothy 1:9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
2 Timothy 2:1Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.
2 Timothy 4:22The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit. Grace be with you. Amen.
Titus 1:4To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
Titus 2:11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 3:7That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Titus 3:15All that are with me salute thee. Greet them that love us in the faith. Grace be with you all. Amen.
Hebrews 2:9But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Only the unbelievers will not ever taste what he hyas done for us
Hebrews 10:29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
I am for one not denying this absoloute amazing salvation that is a free gift recieve by belief this is waht has happened to me I had to give up my works to be right God and when I did guess what yes I recieved the engrafted word as a partaker thus he became the doer through me and this is foir all here by belief one is set free as long as they just do not take it for granted and use it for an occassiopn to the flesh, then the engrafted word is LOVE God's type in 1Cor 13 we recieve and do regardless od others
 
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If pure means pure, are you pure? I think not. Only one has ever been pure and that is Jesus!
Like I said before, you clearly do not believe the Bible. You worship a Jesus of your own imagination and have succumbed to a sinning religion which denies purity.


Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify (G2511) unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth (G2511) us from all sin.

Act 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying (G2511) their hearts by faith.

2Co 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse (G2511) ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.


Cleanse/Cleanseth/Purify/Purifying - G2511 - katharizō
From G2513; to cleanse (literally or figuratively): - (make) clean (-se), purge, purify.


1Pe 1:22 Seeing ye have purified (G48) your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Purified - G48 - hagnizō
From G53; to make clean, that is, (figuratively) sanctify (ceremonially or morally): - purity (self).



And now one of the most key scriptures in the Bible for it pertains to the end.

Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Holy - G37 - hagiazō
From G40; to make holy, that is, (ceremonially) purify or consecrate; (mentally) to venerate: - hallow, be holy, sanctify.
 
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Yes and only by his powerthat he showed us all first by the death and then the resurrection which is for each of us that beleive. we recieve and then do accordingly in thankfullness
Agreed! :)

It's only because of Christ's death, burial, and resurrection that we have new resurrected lives in Christ and victory. His transforming power should never be undermined.

 

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Kay Tommy.... well while everyone else is reading that.... here are for my brothers and sisters in Christ who can't watch the youtube video: its a song by Mandisa (my daughter loves her song "Good Morning" she calls it her Uh OOOuuu hhh O" song. and sings it in her five year old voice at the top of her lungs) .... .....................................................................................................If only I could see me as you see me
And understand the way that I am loved
Would it give a whole new meaning to my purpose
Change the way I see the world

Would I sparkle like a star in the night sky
Would I give a little more instead of take
If I understood I'm precious like the diamond
I'm a worth noone could estimate
I'm a worth noone could estimate

You say lovely
I say broken
I say guilty
You say forgiven
I feel lonely
Say you're with me
We both know it would change everything
If only I believed the truth about me

I wish I could hold on to the moments
When my life is spinnin but I'm peaceful still
Like a wind you whispered in the silence
And tell me things this world never will
You tell me things this world never will

You say lovely
I say broken
I say guilty
You say forgiven
I feel lonely
Say you're with me
We both know it would change everything
If only I believed the truth about me

I would sleep better at night
Wake up with hope for another day
I would love even if it cost me
Take a chance and know I'm goin be ok
I would dare to give my life away...

Oh, I feel lonely
Say you're with me
We both know it would change everything
If only I believed the truth about me
If only I believed the truth about me
Absolutely Loved this.
 

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Speak the truth in LOVE, we can not force truth on people, we must Ask GOD for the right words to help us make people understand HIM. and everything that comes from HIM MUST have the Fruits of the Spirit as products thus showing GENTLENESS, Kindness, self control, faith, as per gal 5:22-23, we must be tenderhearted as the word OF GOD says. people respond more to that, believers and un believers. indeed GOD is strict, but JESUS IS LOVE ;), a person that shows Compassion to sinners and not judgement, because HE knows that Judgement has its time and that time is when we all stand before Him. but as for now, more love, more compassion, more tenderheartedness, more kindness that on that day we may have NO WORD against HIM..
 

my_adonai_

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but bottomline being WE MUST be DILIGENT in our WALK WITH HIM. we should not be lazy, never compromise, never stop in our walk, never backslide, but everyday is a reason to do better than the previous day, every hour a reason to do better than the previous hour. we all run trying by all means to win CHRIST. .

Godbless you all
 
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Semaj

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Speak the truth in LOVE, we can not force truth on people, we must Ask GOD for the right words to help us make people understand HIM. and everything that comes from HIM MUST have the Fruits of the Spirit as products thus showing GENTLENESS, Kindness, self control, faith, as per gal 5:22-23, we must be tenderhearted as the word OF GOD says. people respond more to that, believers and un believers. indeed GOD is strict, but JESUS IS LOVE ;), a person that shows Compassion to sinners and not judgement, because HE knows that Judgement has its time and that time is when we all stand before Him. but as for now, more love, more compassion, more tenderheartedness, more kindness that on that day we may have NO WORD against HIM..
Many equal a sugar coated message with love so when there is no sugar they conclude there is no love. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

I think people pretend not to love sinning when really they love it.
 
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hattiebod

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Most won't listen Tommy...they are stuck in their church It's called the hour a week easy way religion
I think that could be read as an uninformed judgement? you have no idea what 99.9% of the people here do in their daily lives let alone how they worship & celebrate their love for God, i know I don't... I find it is always best to think the best of people, you have a better chance of being heard. Also, it's not so condemning....' Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.' 1 Peter 4:8. <><
 
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The question I like to pose to everyone else is why do most of you you coddle people in their sins? Somehow you think it is loving to tell people "it is ok, God loves you and you are already forgiven." How can you all be so foolish to believe such nonsense?
.........Thought the message was "God loves you and will help you overcome your sin. A humble and contrite heart are the only acceptable sacrifices God requires of His people because Jesus has already paid for the remission of sins with His blood. Learn to walk with the Holy Spirit and bear the fruit of righteousness through God's chastening. Learn to be loving, kind, patient, gentle, filled with joy and His peace so that your words will be living waters refreshing the world. Learn to be lights and living epistles for Christ by loving others and God loves you." ..................that has always been the Gospel message I found when reading the Bible.........why do I coddle people? cuz I like hugs and sometimes people need to have bandages put upon their wounds so that they can have the strength to say NO to Satan and his minions. Sometimes they have to have hope and love from another so that they may give it to others. sometimes, they are so broken and repentant, feeling so dirty and unclean and unworthy they have a hard time believing God has forgiven them that they need to be coddled and reminded that they are beloved children of God.......

don't know what you mean by coddle people in their sins........I definitely don't feel like coddling you in your pride when you rant and lie about the church, but I agree that the Bible does teach heart purity.... now if only the waters that flow from you were not bitter streams tainting what fresh water might be present............James 3
[SUP]9 [/SUP]With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening? [SUP]12 [/SUP]Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh.[SUP][b][/SUP]
 

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#80
Many equal a sugar coated message with love so when there is no sugar they conclude there is no love. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

I think people pretend not to love sinning when really they love it.
i see, so what do you consider as sugar coating the truth?