Nephilim list : of Scriptures for The Giants aka Nephilim . And Hebrew Definions .

[VisAVisYou]

This is just silly guys...

The point of these nephilim was to destroy a generally held belief amongst all ancient near-easterners, that the super natural and the natural shared the same realm. They believed that Gods were in the wind, ocean, hills, disease, famine, etc, etc, etc. They also believed that Gods can come from men, intermarry and reproduce with humans, and that men could rule with as divine rulers.

The point of the story is that man cannot be God, nor should the super-natural ever be married with the natural. The story doesn't end well, and that's the whole point of its inclusion: "Look, the bible acknowledges that others amongst you may believe, like the rest of the world, in that silly concept, but the bible wants you to know that nothing good can ever come of Man-Gods, or, from sexualizing religion by having Gods(man-gods) mating with mortals."

 

[wdeaton65]

This is just silly guys...

The point of these nephilim was to destroy a generally held belief amongst all ancient near-easterners, that the super natural and the natural shared the same realm. They believed that Gods were in the wind, ocean, hills, disease, famine, etc, etc, etc. They also believed that Gods can come from men, intermarry and reproduce with humans, and that men could rule with as divine rulers.

The point of the story is that man cannot be God, nor should the super-natural ever be married with the natural. The story doesn't end well, and that's the whole point of its inclusion: "Look, the bible acknowledges that others amongst you may believe, like the rest of the world, in that silly concept, but the bible wants you to know that nothing good can ever come of Man-Gods, or, from sexualizing religion by having Gods(man-gods) mating with mortals."

I would just ask where do you get this point of view is there a web site of something maybe a link thanks

 

[Tintin]

I can't answer for others but I find the topic so much more fascinating than so called-End Times prophecies, RFID chips and discussing the Trinity for the millionth time.

Can someone explain to me why the nephilim seem to be such a popular topic?

 

[Nautilus]

I mean I agree the concept of Nephilim is quite interesting and angel/human hybrids would ake interesting bad guys for a movie personally. I just dont see much use for them spiritually. Others may, this is just my thoughts though.

@SheepXDog, you realize some people in nearly every generation have thought themselves to be in the last days sorry if i don't give creedence to this one.

 

[Laodicea]

Genesis 4 mentions Cain's line who did not follow God. Genesis 5 mentions Seth's line who did follow God. This is where the sons of God and the daughters of men come from. The Bible needs to be read in context.

 

[Tintin]

If it were just Cain and Seth's bloodlines... no, just, no. We're reading the Bible in context here.

 

[SHEEPxDOG]

I mean I agree the concept of Nephilim is quite interesting and angel/human hybrids would ake interesting bad guys for a movie personally. I just dont see much use for them spiritually. Others may, this is just my thoughts though.

@SheepXDog, you realize some people in nearly every generation have thought themselves to be in the last days sorry if i don't give creedence to this one.

TBH i could care less if you do or not, the point is for the flock that is awake now is the time to prepare yourselves for the times to come, we don't need anymore wimps or sissies in the pulpit anymore, we need warriors to stand, fight, and resist evil, these nephilim will return soon and it's gonna get really bloody.

 

[Nautilus]

it seems your more in love with the idea of it getting bloody than anything

 

[Laodicea]

If it were just Cain and Seth's bloodlines... no, just, no. We're reading the Bible in context here.

Angels were not created to reproduce. They were not created to marry. To believe that angels and humans produced children is fairy tales and not Biblical. What verses do you use?

 

[Hungry]

I think I might be on to something. I'm sure you all can give it more dimension. Just by reading Genesis 6 this is what I'm understanding. The earth was being populated and God's sons just started fornicating and marring all they chose. Now it states God was upset because they are fleshy or acting like animals. Why would God be upset with man if the women were being taken by angels. Would it be their fault? Then He says, "Yet will his days be 120 years." (if someone could expand on that I'd be thankful). Now this is what I'm thinking. Some men are living hundreds of years. It records they had children, I think firstborn, after one hundred. If you were growing for 100 years. How big would you be? Is it possible when the genes were more pure the lifespan was that much longer. After inbreeding man became smaller and lifespan shorter? Is it possible that the Sons of God were more pure in dna and enjoyed ravishing the fifth and sixth generation women and ruling over the smaller man? It is just a theory. Maybe the giants later were a recessive gene? Is this a possibility?

 

[kenisyes]

This is just silly guys...

The point of these nephilim was to destroy a generally held belief amongst all ancient near-easterners, that the super natural and the natural shared the same realm. They believed that Gods were in the wind, ocean, hills, disease, famine, etc, etc, etc. They also believed that Gods can come from men, intermarry and reproduce with humans, and that men could rule with as divine rulers.

The point of the story is that man cannot be God, nor should the super-natural ever be married with the natural. The story doesn't end well, and that's the whole point of its inclusion: "Look, the bible acknowledges that others amongst you may believe, like the rest of the world, in that silly concept, but the bible wants you to know that nothing good can ever come of Man-Gods, or, from sexualizing religion by having Gods(man-gods) mating with mortals."

I think you certainly have hit on the reason it is included in the Bible. But I think it is more than fantasy. I think it is a fact that prior to the flood, there were certain people who had superior knowledge and used it to rule the others. Almost every society with a history from this time speaks of such people, and generally calls them gods, or man-god hybrids of some kind. God would certainly not like for these people to be called gods, and He would want to clarify the issue.

The level of the knowledge is another thing. Several cultures speak of flying craft, laser weaponry, and chemical creation of giants. We know for a fact, Pharaoh had wisemen who could turn staffs into serpents, without God's miraculous help. But the evidence is uneven in each case, and it does not help that, at the first time in history when science would be able to recognize such technology, that science got away from religion, and started producing ideas such as the theory of evolution being fact. They need to condemn the Bible now, not prove that their type of scientific gadgetry once led men to such evil, that God felt obligated to destroy everything He had made, if that is indeed the case.

 

[wdeaton65]

I wonder why this is such an issue these days. Jude is the little brother of the Messiah and Peter walked with the Lord. In the book of Jude He wrights about common understanding from the book of Enoch. 2Peter confirms Jude and if you dont think they study other writtings and history how do you explain Paul knowing the names of Jannes and Jambres in 2Tim.3;8 speaking about Exd.7;11. The Torah nor the "tanakh" O/T gives us this information, so how does Paul know there names.

This is one of many examples I could ask you brothers and sisters. It has been my expierence that when teaching the word of GOD I ask the right questions to the believers the Holy Spirit can and will confirm the truth to us through the word of GOD.
How about we trust that GOD gave us the truth in the beginning Gen 6;2 and 6;4. In the hebrew it is clear these are the direct creations of GOD beni ha elohim or in the english sons of GOD. These rebeled against YHWH that is the short of it.

I mean we believe in the maiden Mary found with child and the ressurection, walking on water, calming the storms and so on why is this a strech for any of us.

The thing about Noah is, He wasnt perfect. His DNA was not contaminated by this act of treason on the part of those angels bound up for the great day just like Jude tells us. The promise seed Yeshua had to come through the offspring of Adam and Eve GOD said so. Not to mention all the giant bones found around the whole earth how would anybody be able to explain them.
I hope this helps.

 

[SHEEPxDOG]

it seems your more in love with the idea of it getting bloody than anything

where did you gather that thought? you should go get your T levels checked, maybe you have a serious testosterone deficiency.

 

[SHEEPxDOG]

Angels were not created to reproduce. They were not created to marry. To believe that angels and humans produced children is fairy tales and not Biblical. What verses do you use?

Genesis 6:1–4

sons of god had sex with the women of the earth, why is this so hard to grasp? you can believe all the other miracles and wonders in the bible, but this just seems outlandish to you? do the research and GOD will reveal to you the truth. I know its outside of your normalcy bias but c'mon chuck. It's pretty consistent.

 

[Nautilus]

where did you gather that thought? you should go get your T levels checked, maybe you have a serious testosterone deficiency.

Not sure what my testosterone levels have to do with, but I gathere it from your frequent focus on end times, your signature, and things like this "we need warriors to stand, fight, and resist evil, these nephilim will return soon and it's gonna get really bloody."

It seems like your eagerly anticipating bad things to happen and eagerly anticipating fighting back physically is all.

Personally im content to let things roll, but then im not a big end times guy. Ill even say Ill die of old age before this end time stuff comes to fruition, my children and their children probably will too.

 

[kenisyes]

how do you explain Paul knowing the names of Jannes and Jambres in 2Tim.3;8 speaking about Exd.7;11. The Torah nor the "tanakh" O/T gives us this information, so how does Paul know there names.

This is an excellent point. It is a matter of history that the Catholic Church destroyed whatever was left of the Library at Alexandria, and thus blocked our ability to get names like Jannes and Jambres. Fortunately, a copy of that book survived in someone's attic, and has turned up. Almost immediately, the dark ages followed, and literacy dropped to near 0, with almost all literacy residing in members of the Catholic Church. Now that we can all read again, I think it's just normal that we want to know everything the early Christians knew. Nephalim is just one of many such details.

 

[kenisyes]

Genesis 6:1–4

sons of god had sex with the women of the earth, why is this so hard to grasp?

History provides a more reasonable alternative. Sumerian documents state specifically that after the flood, the "gods" "manufactured" new people by modifying the old ones. [The Talmud identifies one of these "gods" as Arphaxad, son of Shem, and I can prove the likelihood of this from Abraham's heritage, using the Hebrew OT.] I have even seen a cylinder seal drawing of Inanna holding a new-born infant in what looks like an apothecary shop. The Egyptians call the giants "manufactured", as do the Mayans. Genetic modification being taught to ancient sorcerers by familiar spirits makes much better sense to me.

Why would God work a miracle to change what spirits can do to women, so people could sin by doing it?

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

The thing about Noah is, He wasnt perfect. His DNA was not contaminated by this act of treason on the part of those angels bound up for the great day just like Jude tells us. The promise seed Yeshua had to come through the offspring of Adam and Eve GOD said so. Not to mention all the giant bones found around the whole earth how would anybody be able to explain them.
I hope this helps.

the hebrew word for 'perfect' in the passage referring to noah literally means 'complete'...so the sense is something more like 'perfected'...in other words he was made righteous by faith...

the hebrew word that used to be translated as 'generations' in the same passage has pretty much nothing to do with genealogy or lineage or bloodline or anything like that...it isn't even the same word for 'generations' as the one used in connection with the genealogies that appear elsewhere in genesis... the word literally means a turning...as in a 'turning of time'...in other words an age or era...

the angels jude is talking about are the angels that fell with satan...there was only one fall of angels...not two or three... all of the angels chose their sides the first time...

the flood had nothing to do with genetics...the bible -tells us- why the flood happened...it was because the earth was full of corruption and violence...not because there was any need to preserve a human bloodline...

the 'giant bones' either end up disappearing as if they never existed in the first place...or lately they turn out to be photoshop hoaxes on the internet...

 

[wdeaton65]

the hebrew word for 'perfect' in the passage referring to noah literally means 'complete'...so the sense is something more like 'perfected'...in other words he was made righteous by faith...

the hebrew word that used to be translated as 'generations' in the same passage has pretty much nothing to do with genealogy or lineage or bloodline or anything like that...it isn't even the same word for 'generations' as the one used in connection with the genealogies that appear elsewhere in genesis... the word literally means a turning...as in a 'turning of time'...in other words an age or era...

the angels jude is talking about are the angels that fell with satan...there was only one fall of angels...not two or three... all of the angels chose their sides the first time...

the flood had nothing to do with genetics...the bible -tells us- why the flood happened...it was because the earth was full of corruption and violence...not because there was any need to preserve a human bloodline...

the 'giant bones' either end up disappearing as if they never existed in the first place...or lately they turn out to be photoshop hoaxes on the internet...

This is not true. Perhaps you will give me a lesson in hebrew both pictographic and Biblical not strongs thanks

 

[kenisyes]

the 'giant bones' either end up disappearing as if they never existed in the first place...or lately they turn out to be photoshop hoaxes on the internet...

There is tons of evidence of a race 9-15 feet tall. I think the tallest verified was like 18 feet. These skeletons turn up all the time. Anything taller is a hoax.